The Shortage, Are You Preparing?

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No, I sold back in November and it was based on advice from Bannon which you can go back and watch his shows in November.
Nobody asked you when you sold. And despite your apparent Bannon worship, the premise of the statement was that they are already down 30%. So what are you talking for?
 

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"advice from the "Do Nothing and Hope for the Best" school of investing.

Why would anyone listen to this advice? "
Your advice was to bite your tongue. Fortunes are made and lost on these swings in the market and it isn't by chance or luck. It is by study, analysis, and understanding the various factors at play.

Another guy who called this was the guy who called the 2008 Mortgage meltdown and made a fortune off of that.
 
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Your advice was to bite your tongue. Fortunes are made and lost on these swings in the market and it isn't by chance or luck. It is by study, analysis, and understanding the various factors at play.

Another guy who called this was the guy who called the 2008 Mortgage meltdown and made a fortune off of that.
No, my order was to bite your tongue. If you were close enough, I'd be tempted to ensure you did. The premise was that the account was already down 30%, and that was where I started my comment.
All that is there. You're self-absorbed or selling Bannon, in my opinion.
 

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Nobody asked you when you sold. And despite your apparent Bannon worship, the premise of the statement was that they are already down 30%. So what are you talking for?
OK, you don't understand english and don't understand investing, I get it.

The premise of the statement was that there are two kinds of investment advisors.

1. Their advice is always to do nothing, keep your money with them, and if you have more buy more because they make money on transaction fees and money under management and they are clueless about what is best. This advice "works" about 70% of the time and since most people are lazy or clueless it isn't all that bad really.

2. Other advisors are completely focused on predicting the market. Buffet predicts that companies have a good business model and over 20 years will do well and the price the stock is at currently is a good price. He doesn't "time" the market. But if the price goes down on a stock he buys he buys more figuring the company is on sale.

Other people like Steve Cortez is analyzing the macro economics to see which way the market as a whole is going. He isn't giving you stock advice on an individual stock, but you could use his advice in buying the ten year treasury bond or the S&P 500 fund.

Still others like the guys highlighted in "The Big Short" have different strategies but they are all based on one thing, careful analysis of the data and investigation.
 
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OK, you don't understand english and don't understand investing, I get it.

The premise of the statement was that there are two kinds of investment advisors.

1. Their advice is always to do nothing, keep your money with them, and if you have more buy more because they make money on transaction fees and money under management and they are clueless about what is best. This advice "works" about 70% of the time and since most people are lazy or clueless it isn't all that bad really.

2. Other advisors are completely focused on predicting the market. Buffet predicts that companies have a good business model and over 20 years will do well and the price the stock is at currently is a good price. He doesn't "time" the market. But if the price goes down on a stock he buys he buys more figuring the company is on sale.

Other people like Steve Cortez is analyzing the macro economics to see which way the market as a whole is going. He isn't giving you stock advice on an individual stock, but you could use his advice in buying the ten year treasury bond or the S&P 500 fund.

Still others like the guys highlighted in "The Big Short" have different strategies but they are all based on one thing, careful analysis of the data and investigation.
The entirety is about you and Bannon and your stock knowledge. And you're insulting me to prove it. Not only does my statement follow the original writer's premise, unless your argument is to sell at a 30% loss, I'd venture it's what you'd still advise.

But go on, type another article fluffing how great you and your advisors are at insulting people who didn't say what you stuck in their mouths?
 

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No, my order was to bite your tongue.
Your order? Now that is arrogant.

If you were close enough, I'd be tempted to ensure you did.
Wow, threats of physical violence, not something you see very often on a Christian forum. No one threatened me growing up, not even in HS but maybe that was because I was a lineman on the football team. Didn't get any threats in college either, but maybe that was because I was on the Rugby team.

The premise was that the account was already down 30%, and that was where I started my comment.
All that is there. You're self-absorbed or selling Bannon, in my opinion.
Your comment was to do nothing and hope for the best. It was idiotic. Do you realize that in ten years all those stocks will be worth 0? Maybe you should have a better understanding of where we are and where we are going before giving stock advice.
 
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Your order? Now that is arrogant.


Wow, threats of physical violence, not something you see very often on a Christian forum. No one threatened me growing up, not even in HS but maybe that was because I was a lineman on the football team. Didn't get any threats in college either, but maybe that was because I was on the Rugby team.



Your comment was to do nothing and hope for the best. It was idiotic. Do you realize that in ten years all those stocks will be worth 0? Maybe you should have a better understanding of where we are and where we are going before giving stock advice.
You're a failure on this one, buddy. Not only is the record here, I'm not dumb enough to be bowled over by letters.

You're insulting me based on a premise you created.
Your solution involved a Time Machine, as do your insults.
You will reply to anyone in the crowd listening, but all your advice will remain lost on me, because this is an aggravation opened and sustained only by you, for you, apparently. And I don't have life-span to play with your abuse of a series of events. Especially when they're still posted for anyone to read.
 

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The entirety is about you and Bannon and your stock knowledge. And you're insulting me to prove it. Not only does my statement follow the original writer's premise, unless your argument is to sell at a 30% loss, I'd venture it's what you'd still advise.

But go on, type another article fluffing how great you and your advisors are at insulting people who didn't say what you stuck in their mouths?
Yes, absolutely. If you are still holding stocks and bonds you should sell and buy silver. That is stock advice.

However, far more valuable advice which I give is that you need to be right with Jesus because all that silver will do is maybe give you a fighting chance during the first year of the tribulation. It would be far better to be raptured before the tribulation. And if not then the next best thing is to be martyred making a stand for the Lord during the tribulation. So in the grand scheme of things it is too late to brace yourself.
 

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You're a failure on this one, buddy. Not only is the record here, I'm not dumb enough to be bowled over by letters.

You're insulting me based on a premise you created.
Your solution involved a Time Machine, as do your insults.
You will reply to anyone in the crowd listening, but all your advice will remain lost on me, because this is an aggravation opened and sustained only by you, for you, apparently. And I don't have life-span to play with your abuse of a series of events. Especially when they're still posted for anyone to read.
Future warnings -- Ignore at your peril

There have been multiple warnings and I have posted all of them. People who mocked Dana Coverstone when all of his dreams were saying to "brace yourself". I will not go into all the warnings posted, but I will point out there are still many that I have posted that have yet to happen.

1. The US stock market will completely collapse. It will be the fulfillment of the Lord's judgement on the Great Babylon that her judgement will come in one hour like a great millstone being tossed into the ocean. A good depiction of the collapse of the stock market.

2. The US dollar will become completely worthless. I have also posted that warning repeatedly.

3. The twelve major coastal cities in the US will suffer catastrophic damage. If you are living them now you will either be killed instantly or you will flee for your life. There will be suitcase nukes set off, there will be underwater nuclear explosions causing a tsunami to flood the coastlines, and there will be an EMP to knock out the power.

4. This will be a response to the US military taking control of Washington DC to arrest traitors and reinstate DJT as president. At first the country will cheer but this will force those responsible abroad for the treason to attack.

All of this will happen this year and most likely this summer.

5. And the best warning is that once all this happens people will turn on all those who mocked and ridiculed these warnings. The phony pastors, Free Masons in the churches, will all be ousted.
 

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UN is warning of coming Famine


You can be sure it will be much worse than they are admitting.
 

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Argentina, Sri Lanka and China are all imploding.

South Sahara Africa is as bad as anywhere on the planet.

Eastern Europe is in war.

Natural gas and oil is being shut off to Europe.
 

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is this thread about toilet paper again.

I think if you run out you can always use leaves from the garden...if you have one.
 
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is this thread about toilet paper again.

I think if you run out you can always use leaves from the garden...if you have one.
Nope, it's about shortages of food and what people can do to be more self reliant.
 
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Nope, it's about shortages of food and what people can do to be more self reliant.
Learning how long foods you already have can stay edible is a huge part of not starving during food shortages. Doing these exercises before you need them may save your life.
Despite the salesman at the appliance store being certain, most vegetables and fruits will stay edible, as long as you don't get them into direct sun or let the flies eat them, for at least 2 or 3 days.
Obviously bananas, for instance, tend to go soft rather quickly, but you can keep most of the banana rather edible for at least a full day, if you keep the uneaten part inside the covering and cover it with a cloth to keep flies out.
Citrus fruits will dry a hard skin over any slices taken out of the entire fruit, keeping most of the fruit for weeks even.
Cooked meat, cooked beans, these tend to get bad within a day, but if they are hot when the pot is opened and closed hot, and then placed in a cool spot, you can normally boil the pot again the next day and there is no serious risk to a young healthy person.


Many veggies will air-dry simply by slicing them thin enough and keeping them from bugs, under a fan where possible.
Numerous root veggies have edible leaves, often edible seed pods, that can fill your stomach between heartier meals, and give you vitamins you need, and they often only take a couple of weeks to get to where they make a decent addition to your dry goods.


Except for summer months, or those near the equator, a gallon of pasteurized milk can stay consumable for a number of days, as long as it's kept cool.
Opening the gallon to allow oxygen in, will normally' keep it from growing the worst stuff, and once it starts to curdle, it can be used to make yogurt or clotted (cottage) cheese, then often onto feta, and finally parmesan (if nothing else for cooking to kill off any living cells).

Learn the stages of testing for allergens/poisons in foods.
As I heard, it goes,
Inspect and waft smell (not deep sniff in the container or the bush, use your hand to push the air to your nose, not stick your nose in) on first encounter,
dab on the back of the hand and watch for one day.
then lick and wait a day,
then nibble and wait a day,
if no response, use in small batches the first day
then if no response, eat until something changes, it should be safe
 

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Railroad union members vote 99.5% to authorize a July 18 nationwide strike

Read more at: https://www.star-telegram.com/news/business/article263406193.html#storylink=cpy

The cooling off period that prevents unions from striking or railroads from locking out their workers expires July 18. At issue are wages and benefits. The unions have been working without a contract since June 2019 and blame rail carriers for dragging out negotiations while earning what they say are record profits during the COVID-19 pandemic.
 

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They keep telling us there is a shortage coming. I haven't seen it yet locally but somewhere along the line people are gonna realize the holidays are upon us and they are out of luck. I just sense that we are in for some hard times ahead in America, like hasn't been seen in years.

I've never considered myself a prepper but I went out and got all the dry goods for Thanksgiving and Christmas meals. I also got all the baking goods last night. Then hubby and I bought a freezer. I'm not panicked, I just the Lord telling us to prepare. I did the same for my parents. So is anyone else feeling the same way? We see the ships in the harbor and no movement. I think the holiday season is going to get bad quickly. I don't want to be out there fighting for TP with a mob of crazy people. But then, I always like to be prepared, I hate sitting and worrying and doing nothing. I figure if I prepare I can help someone else that needs it. Anyone else making plans or you don't think this is serious enough to prepare?
I've actually been feeling the opposite. This is no judgment on you, but for me, it seems as if running out and buying all this stuff is not trusting in God to meet my needs. Maybe I'm wrong.
 
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I've actually been feeling the opposite. This is no judgment on you, but for me, it seems as if running out and buying all this stuff is not trusting in God to meet my needs. Maybe I'm wrong.
Come what may, I'm trusting Him. I believe He'll provide for me, but even if He doesn't, I will trust Him. He has never abandoned me...He never will!
 

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Come what may, I'm trusting Him. I believe He'll provide for me, but even if He doesn't, I will trust Him. He has never abandoned me...He never will!
Yeah, it just seems that this is a fear that may be being planted by the enemy. I could be very wrong. There are a lot of things that are not happening that could lead to a perfect storm (fertilizer's harder to get, shipping issues, etc). But, something about this... I dunno... Not at all saying that I have some special sense from God. It just feels like these fearful prognostications are being planted by the enemy. Again, I can't see a billionth of a second in front of me, so I could be wrong.
 
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I've actually been feeling the opposite. This is no judgment on you, but for me, it seems as if running out and buying all this stuff is not trusting in God to meet my needs. Maybe I'm wrong.
Noah stocked the ark for his family and the animals.
Israel gathered enough manna on the sixth day for the seventh.
Israel prepared for the seventh year when nothing was to be planted or harvested.
Those who did not prepare went without.
God has always instructed His people to prepare.
If God is providing you with the means and opportunity to prepare, that is His provision.
 
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Yeah, it just seems that this is a fear that may be being planted by the enemy. I could be very wrong. There are a lot of things that are not happening that could lead to a perfect storm (fertilizer's harder to get, shipping issues, etc). But, something about this... I dunno... Not at all saying that I have some special sense from God. It just feels like these fearful prognostications are being planted by the enemy. Again, I can't see a billionth of a second in front of me, so I could be wrong.
I don't think it's time for the one-world government. I think the enemy is trying to change God's set times, but he'll fail. That's what I believe. We'll see.