The hadron collider

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Dude653

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The "you should have used that money to feed people" argument doesn't fly and here's why.
How much of my expendable income am morally obligated to give to charity.
When I go to the gas station and buy a bag of potato chips that I really didn't need, am I guilty because I didn't give that $2 to charity instead?
$2, 9 billion dollars, same principle applies
 

cv5

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Don't know why shittim is frowning. Better off to jump on the internet make your own inquiries.

That's what I did. Modern standard model scientific theories are a joke. And the joke's on us. Just like politics.
 
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The "you should have used that money to feed people" argument doesn't fly and here's why.
How much of my expendable income am morally obligated to give to charity.
When I go to the gas station and buy a bag of potato chips that I really didn't need, am I guilty because I didn't give that $2 to charity instead?
$2, 9 billion dollars, same principle applies
If one is obligated, then it is not charity.
 

Dude653

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Don't know why shittim is frowning. Better off to jump on the internet make your own inquiries.

That's what I did. Modern standard model scientific theories are a joke. And the joke's on us. Just like politics.
No.. in the scientific method, a theory must be backed up by observable evidence before it's even called a theory
 
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You entirely missed the point
You wouldn't be guilty because charity isn't mandatory.

The problem you have equating this to the great waste of the hadron collider is there's nothing to show for it.
 

PennEd

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Nah.......the Higgs boson is bogus. Does not exist. Same goes for "photons" and "electrons".

Find out how they discovered this thing.......quite absurd really. They theorized a range of electron volts where a particle should exist (125-127 Gev/c2) and presto they found one. :rolleyes:

Anyhoo......an electron is a unit of charge. It is used for calculation purposes in equations. J.J. Thomson (who "discovered" them) stated clearly they did not exist.

BTW.....there are no electron particles traveling through wires ROFL Conducting wires are reflector waveguides nothing more nothing less. The aether field perturbation travels on the outside of the wires. To understand legit electrical theory read Charles Proteus Steinmetz. When he talked about "stirring up the aether" he knew exactly what he was talking about.

And astronomers to not open purge valves to drain the photons from their telescopes. The whole concept of particles is truly absurd.

Gravity is nothing more than non-point source dielectric acceleration. It is precisely the same thing as magnetism. The entire physical universe is predicated upon magnetism. Magnetism is the one and only force. Everything else is a derivative. They're looking for unified force and that is it. It is not mediated by particles it has nothing to do with particles there are no particles.

Standard model physics is a disaster at this point. Probably by design. I don't think God is allowing fallen depraved humans to understand the real nature of the creation.

You might want to study something known as "counterspace". Be prepared for a "shock".

Practically all standard model theory is absurdly incorrect. For example......all stars, solar systems and galaxies are rapidly formed by Z-pinch plasma phenomenon. Gravity and dust theores are preposterous. All stars are electric phenomenon not nuclear furnaces. Observational evidence is overwhelmingly conclusive on this matter.

Sorry for the rambling.......its a big topic.
Exactly. These satanists didn’t actually FIND anything. They posit that these particles must be there because of the reactions of things that ARE there, or the absence of things that should be there.
 

Dude653

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Exactly. These satanists didn’t actually FIND anything. They posit that these particles must be there because of the reactions of things that ARE there, or the absence of things that should be there.
Troll harder
 

cv5

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A couple of other points:

-the so-called speed of light is nothing more than the rate of induction through the aether

-the fact that light "speeds up" after exiting a glass prism utterly destroys many of the most cherished (erroneous) scientific theories

-two bodies (like the earth and the moon) are NOT attracted to "each other" by "gravity". Each body is attracted to a null point. This point is in COUNTERSPACE, aka the dielectric "sink"......a region of infinite inertia and capacitance.

Go on YouTube and study the ferrocell/dielectric/counterspace.
 

PennEd

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The "you should have used that money to feed people" argument doesn't fly and here's why.
How much of my expendable income am morally obligated to give to charity.
When I go to the gas station and buy a bag of potato chips that I really didn't need, am I guilty because I didn't give that $2 to charity instead?
$2, 9 billion dollars, same principle applies
As a non Christian, why are you arguing about Christian morality?
 

cv5

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No.. in the scientific method, a theory must be backed up by observable evidence before it's even called a theory
As I have said before the fact that galaxies and our sun are purely plasma Z-pinch electromagnetic phenomenon is backed up with massive observations beyond refutation.

Our sun is nothing more than a plasmoid in arc mode residing in the local Birkeland plasma filament. This accounts for the fact that the corona is the hottest region.

Observations of the sun's corona utterly destroys any ridiculous notions that the Sun is a nuclear furnace.
 

Dude653

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I got that dude on ignore. Who wants to talked down to by a guy that's holding a club?
I know he has me on ignore but someone inform him that I haven't talked down to a single person throughout this entire conversation. I'm trying to have a conversation about science and one guy went on a long rant about transgender people which had precisely doo doo to do with the topic. Also I'm not trying to have a conversation about that poop crazy conspiracy theories either. Trying to have a logical and rational conversation about why science isn't satanic but some people think disagreeing with them equates to them being persecuted
 

cv5

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I know he has me on ignore but someone inform him that I haven't talked down to a single person throughout this entire conversation. I'm trying to have a conversation about science and one guy went on a long rant about transgender people which had precisely doo doo to do with the topic. Also I'm not trying to have a conversation about that poop crazy conspiracy theories either. Trying to have a logical and rational conversation about why science isn't satanic but some people think disagreeing with them equates to them being persecuted
It's not science that is satanic. It is deception parading itself as science that is satanic.

But yeah......so called modern science is nothing more than official state dogma backed up by $$$ bribes and payoffs $$$. It's seems no one wants to be kicked off the gravy train.

I am definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer and I know these things? And the supposed scientific community does not? Ridiculous. o_O
 

Dude653

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It's not science that is satanic. It is deception parading itself as science that is satanic.

But yeah......so called modern science is nothing more than official state dogma backed up by $$$ bribes and payoffs $$$. It's seems no one wants to be kicked off the gravy train.

I am definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer and I know these things? And the supposed scientific community does not? Ridiculous. o_O
By your own admission you know nothing about it and that's why you think science is satanic.
Argument from ignorance fallacy
 

Eli1

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@cv5 I’ve been reading your comments and I have difficulty responding to most of them.
‘Let’s start with some basics.

Do you believe the Earth is flat?
 

Lynx

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Ah well. Start with the hadron collider, end with conspiracy nuts.

Just another day on the forum.
 

cv5

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@cv5 I’ve been reading your comments and I have difficulty responding to most of them.
Entirely predictable if not expected......;):whistle:

Invest 1000 hours or so as an introductory study of these topics and get back to me.
 

cv5

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By your own admission you know nothing about it and that's why you think science is satanic.
Argument from ignorance fallacy
"it"? What is "it"?