Vaccine is killing more people than covid

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ChristianTonyB

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I had two inoculations of astrazaneca, a pfiser booster, and more recently, a moderna booster. So far so good 👍
 

shittim

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I get asthma. Pretty much under control now.
But for years upon years i got pneumonia and pluricy (think i spelt the last one wrong)
Ond day, the Pneumo vac came out, was new at the time. My dr told me about it and asked "this is new, it might help you its on trial" I said yep give it to me.
Pneumonia was to me like a knife in my lungs each breathe! Was hospitalised once it was so bad.
After the vax iv never had either since.
That is what true vaccines were, these today are not vaccines, yet the easily duped and swayed are falling for the adversaries lie.
 

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ZNP

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I had two inoculations of astrazaneca, a pfiser booster, and more recently, a moderna booster. So far so good 👍
I can see this as the latest advertising campaign for the vaccine.

"I have had two shots and two boosters and I'm still not dead."
 

shittim

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EXACTLY! As though after they transpire they can report in? lol!

It's like we used to think about the "frequent flyers" at the prison , if we didn't see them anymore we figured we did a good job in the treatment program.
 
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I can see this as the latest advertising campaign for the vaccine.

"I have had two shots and two boosters and I'm still not dead."
Just giving another perspective. I think conspiracy theories around the reason for covid and vaccinations as a lot of rot, and really don't warrant any discussion. However, I thought it appropriate that I put another point of view and real experience out there to help those being confused by the conspiracy theorists and their idiocy.
 

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Just giving another perspective. I think conspiracy theories around the reason for covid and vaccinations as a lot of rot, and really don't warrant any discussion. However, I thought it appropriate that I put another point of view and real experience out there to help those being confused by the conspiracy theorists and their idiocy.
Yep, it all started with the theory that it came from the Wuhan bioweapons lab. We have 20 scientists point out there was no evidence of that and all the evidence pointed to a bat cave hundreds of miles away. However, the bioweapons conspiracy theory was fueled by the fact that there was no evidence at all that pointed to the bat cave and in fact the only evidence we do have points to the bioweapons lab.

But then the conspiracy theorists had the nerve to go after Saint Fauci saying that he funded the bioweapons lab through NIH, a blatant falsehood which Fauci vigorously denied, as it turns out he funded it through a shell company, not directly through NIH because that would have been illegal.

But at least they came up with a vaccine to help us all after outlawing HCQ which they said was bleach. Of course we now know that HCQ is very safe, has been used for 50 years and is also quite effective at curing an early viral infection from any virus including Covid.

Nope, the recommended cure was Remdesvir which, funny thing, there is no evidence at all that it helps people with Covid, but the side effects are serious, perhaps even deadly.

Still others were recommending Ivermectin once you arrived at the ICU and studies do show that it is very effective at that late stage. However, we were told this was some kind of horse medicine, so stay away from it.

But anyway, why worry about treating the disease if we can prevent in in the first place with a vaccine. So everyone had to get the vaccine. When they pointed out that it was illegal to mandate an experimental vaccine they approved a vaccine so that it was no longer experimental (at that point you lose your immunity from liability and also you must provide full disclosure at what is in the vaccine). Funny thing, they continued to give people the experimental vaccine while mandating the non experimental one (to get around the Nuremberg laws).

OK, so they played fast and loose with the law, at least it prevented people from catching Covid. Nope, you are using an old definition of vaccine, they changed the definition. This shot does not prevent you from catching or transmitting the disease.

OK, but at least it makes the symptoms less so that you are less likely to die. There is no reliable evidence that that claim is true. On the contrary we have an extraordinarily high number of people dying that cannot be explained ever since the vaccine was made widely available. Life insurance companies are seeing a stunning increase in deaths among people working at companies. Other companies are noting that the vast majority (90% in some studies) of those who are now getting sick are those who had the shot. They are also noting that the more shots you have had the more likely it is you will get sick.

Yep, just a lot of idiotic conspiracy theories. These morons didn't realize you weren't supposed to look at the data and question the government.
 

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znp, You have a very good handle on a lot of this, have you taken this in ? It looks from the first outbreak of SARS in China I get the impression it was made here, infected there, and in retaliation they have turned it back on the U.S. and Dr. Phony is so dirty from it he is a part of the ccp con job lest he be exposed.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/yVApXuDjR6jV/
 

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znp, You have a very good handle on a lot of this, have you taken this in ? It looks from the first outbreak of SARS in China I get the impression it was made here, infected there, and in retaliation they have turned it back on the U.S. and Dr. Phony is so dirty from it he is a part of the ccp con job lest he be exposed.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/yVApXuDjR6jV/
Matthew 24:4-8 birth pains

Matthew 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

There is a wonderful correlation between the "birth pains" described by Jesus and the four horses of the apocalypse. See that no one deceives you, that would be the white horse. It is easy to use this to justify the "antichrist" theory of the white horse, but without the gospel how do you keep from being deceived? Wars and rumors of wars would be the red horse. Famines would be the black horse, and earthquakes are often associated with plagues like dysentery. But the Lord describes them as "birth pains". Birth pains become more and more frequent and if you look at human history this is what you see. There were great wars every 150 or 250 years at the beginning of this age, but now we have had two world wars, the Korean war, the Vietnam war, two Gulf wars, and a war in Afghanistan all in the space of a hundred years. And now we see another war started by Russia in Ukraine. We have had a couple of very big pandemics throughout the last two thousand years, but in just the last 100 years we have had the Spanish Flu, AIDS, Sars, Swine Flu, Covid19, the Delta variant, and now Monkey Pox. The birth pains are getting closer and closer together.

Fauci was involved in financing the gain of function research at the Wuhan lab which created Covid19, that he then lied and manipulated the entire world to reject the lab leak theory until it could no longer be denied, he lied about treatments that would have made the pandemic less severe and easier to treat, he pushed for a complete shutdown which was contrary to the scientific consensus on the best way to deal with a pandemic. We also know that he is a Free Mason and that they think the solution to the world's ills is to reduce population from 7.5 billion to 500 million. They think that pandemics and wars and abortion are three ways to move towards that goal, but the best and most effective way would be to sterilize billions of people under the guise of a life saving vaccine.
 

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According to Dr. Martin it was long before that the SARS virus was made in America by Dr. Faici, did you see the video?
 

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According to Dr. Martin it was long before that the SARS virus was made in America by Dr. Faici, did you see the video?
no, but I have heard that.

One interview I saw said that a corona virus is ideal for a bioweapon for some reason. Can't remember what it was.
 

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Matthew 24:4-8 birth pains

Matthew 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8 All these are the beginning of birth pains.

There is a wonderful correlation between the "birth pains" described by Jesus and the four horses of the apocalypse. See that no one deceives you, that would be the white horse. It is easy to use this to justify the "antichrist" theory of the white horse, but without the gospel how do you keep from being deceived? Wars and rumors of wars would be the red horse. Famines would be the black horse, and earthquakes are often associated with plagues like dysentery. But the Lord describes them as "birth pains". Birth pains become more and more frequent and if you look at human history this is what you see. There were great wars every 150 or 250 years at the beginning of this age, but now we have had two world wars, the Korean war, the Vietnam war, two Gulf wars, and a war in Afghanistan all in the space of a hundred years. And now we see another war started by Russia in Ukraine. We have had a couple of very big pandemics throughout the last two thousand years, but in just the last 100 years we have had the Spanish Flu, AIDS, Sars, Swine Flu, Covid19, the Delta variant, and now Monkey Pox. The birth pains are getting closer and closer together.

Fauci was involved in financing the gain of function research at the Wuhan lab which created Covid19, that he then lied and manipulated the entire world to reject the lab leak theory until it could no longer be denied, he lied about treatments that would have made the pandemic less severe and easier to treat, he pushed for a complete shutdown which was contrary to the scientific consensus on the best way to deal with a pandemic. We also know that he is a Free Mason and that they think the solution to the world's ills is to reduce population from 7.5 billion to 500 million. They think that pandemics and wars and abortion are three ways to move towards that goal, but the best and most effective way would be to sterilize billions of people under the guise of a life saving vaccine.
The world population is almost 8 billion. There have been many scientific papers published, telling us that the world cannot support 8 billion people.

That's true of course but how do we reduce the world population?

As the population continues to grow there obviously will be more viral pandemics.
 

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As people of faith we know sickness, disease, lack, accidents, etc. are always from the adversaries realm.
Jesus was born up so that He would not even stub His toe. His life was the model for how we are each to live.
We were given the command to fill the earth and subdue it.
 

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Was hesitant to even comment on this thread because Ive been lambasted on another site for my views. Funnily enough most said they were Christians too!
I didnt take the vaccine. With the internet most people can research the virus and the vaccine for themselves, if their is no trust in their government or the medical/ big pharma. If you cannot ask questions and are not satisfied with the answers you are getting, that is a problem. But Im not going to cut someone off because their view is different from mine. Well not unless you are so offensive that you cant have civil dialogue lol
 

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I gotta offend you.

This is a cringe word my son brought into our house. I even lost a bet that it wasn't a real word, and I'm a Scrabble nut!
I have no choice but to cut you off because you made me question if funnily was a real word! lol you could start up a thread about all the cringe words we love to hate :)
 

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I had two inoculations of astrazaneca, a pfiser booster, and more recently, a moderna booster. So far so good 👍
I also had two Astra Zeneca and a Pfizer booster. Will get the fourth booster in about a month, which will probably be the Moderna vaccine, I hope. Then the fifth and sixth vaccines followed by the universal Covid-sars-19 vaccine which renders the previous six vaccines obsolete.
 
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As people of faith we know sickness, disease, lack, accidents, etc. are always from the adversaries realm.
This is patently wrong, unless you are saying God is our adversary.

Your suggestion is contradictory to the way God dealt with a troublesome Israel, and with those that troubled Israel. He uses diseases and other calamities to deal with problematic humans. We also get sick, and die of illnesses and injuries too, because God has given each and every one of us a physical life span. Moral evil is the realm of our adversaries, there is no moral evil that has come from God.