Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
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akaDorthy

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What I am talking about is the fact the Wolfwint is a highly qualified supervisor nurse in a hospital in Germany! But over & over Shittim keeps calling him a janitor. Once would have been cute, or funny. I've counted 5 or 6 times. I've also reported him every time for slander. But not for either view on the vaccine.
I think this is because Wolfwint (or maybe it was when he was under the name Aidan1) has said in the past (and there's no way I'm going to try and go back to find this, if I happen to stumble across it again I'll point you to it) but once wolfwint/aidan1 made comments about "working in hospital" but when it was questioned of him for what position he finally said something about being in custodial, so unless there was a language misunderstanding there it was taken by SEVERAL people that he (wolfwint/aidan1) admitted to working in a hospital in custodial (often referred to as janitorial in the US) NOT nursing.
BIG DIFFERENCE in those positions.

So @wolfwint or aka @Aidan1 can you once again (maybe clear this up and tell us again) what your role in the hospital you work in is? Are you a nurse or other medical professional, or are you there as part of the cleaning crew?
 
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akaDorthy

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:unsure: oh, I see I'm not the only one who picked up on that tidbit of info (my wolfwint/aidan1 comment above)
 

ZNP

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:unsure: oh, I see I'm not the only one who picked up on that tidbit of info (my wolfwint/aidan1 comment above)
No I agree with you, that was my understanding as well but I didn't want to make that claim since like you I have no interest in going back through all his posts. However, I did want to add that Angela's post was a condemnation of this forum which I feel is unjust. I did not respond one way or the other to Shittim because I only have a vague idea of what Wolfwint's position is at the hospital.

He has made it abundantly clear that he works in Germany in a hospital. That much I will say. Is it custodial? Or is it as a supervisory nurse as Angela seems to assert I don't know. I do remember that it seemed like he said custodial and also like you said there is always a translation issue with his posts.

I would also add that both a custodian and a nurse would be well aware of how many die in a hospital.
 

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Sure, in the Spanish flu 104 years ago, 50 million people died. They had no vaccines, limited medical care.
This is totally wrong. They did have vaccines back then, as this was what caused the "Spanish flu". The people who didn't take the vaxes didn't get sick. There was the same old fear-mongering back then, when soldiers were returning from the war that people at home would come down with mysterious and tropical viruses, the same mentality sheeple lining up to get their tainted medicines which they thought would save them from the imaginary viruses, and the same mentality sheeple dying from the poisoned medicines they took out of fear and ill-founded faith. Vaccines kill - they always have and always will. Man cannot improve on what God has made.
 

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I think this is because Wolfwint (or maybe it was when he was under the name Aidan1) has said in the past (and there's no way I'm going to try and go back to find this, if I happen to stumble across it again I'll point you to it) but once wolfwint/aidan1 made comments about "working in hospital" but when it was questioned of him for what position he finally said something about being in custodial, so unless there was a language misunderstanding there it was taken by SEVERAL people that he (wolfwint/aidan1) admitted to working in a hospital in custodial (often referred to as janitorial in the US) NOT nursing.
BIG DIFFERENCE in those positions.

So @wolfwint or aka @Aidan1 can you once again (maybe clear this up and tell us again) what your role in the hospital you work in is? Are you a nurse or other medical professional, or are you there as part of the cleaning crew?
Ok, i am working as deputy Station Manager on a privat interdisziplinar ward. (Orthopädic, Trauma surgery, surgery, internally)
In german it calls : stellvertretende Stationsleitung.
Is it now more clear?
 

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Ok, i am working as deputy Station Manager on a privat interdisziplinar ward. (Orthopädic, Trauma surgery, surgery, internally)
In german it calls : stellvertretende Stationsleitung.
Is it now more clear?
Our System is different then the most nurse Systems in the world.
I think this is because Wolfwint (or maybe it was when he was under the name Aidan1) has said in the past (and there's no way I'm going to try and go back to find this, if I happen to stumble across it again I'll point you to it) but once wolfwint/aidan1 made comments about "working in hospital" but when it was questioned of him for what position he finally said something about being in custodial, so unless there was a language misunderstanding there it was taken by SEVERAL people that he (wolfwint/aidan1) admitted to working in a hospital in custodial (often referred to as janitorial in the US) NOT nursing.
BIG DIFFERENCE in those positions.

So @wolfwint or aka @Aidan1 can you once again (maybe clear this up and tell us again) what your role in the hospital you work in is? Are you a nurse or other medical professional, or are you there as part of the cleaning crew?
I am a nurse and lead the ward, if the Station Sister ( senior station manager) is not there.
 

wolfwint

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This is totally wrong. They did have vaccines back then, as this was what caused the "Spanish flu". The people who didn't take the vaxes didn't get sick. There was the same old fear-mongering back then, when soldiers were returning from the war that people at home would come down with mysterious and tropical viruses, the same mentality sheeple lining up to get their tainted medicines which they thought would save them from the imaginary viruses, and the same mentality sheeple dying from the poisoned medicines they took out of fear and ill-founded faith. Vaccines kill - they always have and always will. Man cannot improve on what God has made.
You realy should study history! And not believe to conspiracy theories from Eleanore McBean. In this time there was no vaccine against flu!
 

Moses_Young

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You realy should study history! And not believe to conspiracy theories from Eleanore McBean. In this time there was no vaccine against flu!
You should study your history, and not create straw men. I never claimed it was a flu vax that killed them - I said it was the vaxxes that were being pushed at the time.
 

ZNP

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Our System is different then the most nurse Systems in the world.
I am a nurse and lead the ward, if the Station Sister ( senior station manager) is not there.
Thank you, that is clear. Personally I didn't care what your position was. I would think that someone in administration might be well aware of how many people were dying from Covid, as would a nurse and as would an orderly. I didn't take offense at Shittim's posts the way Angela did. But since you have said what your position is I think it would now be insulting if anyone said otherwise.
 

ZNP

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You should study your history, and not create straw men. I never claimed it was a flu vax that killed them - I said it was the vaxxes that were being pushed at the time.
This is really a major issue. If everyone had a clear understanding of history they would know that for every vaccine we have that "saves lives" there have been 2-3 that were made that didn't. Anyone who is not skeptical of some new drug being pushed by Pharma is either ignorant of their history, a buffoon, or a flim flam man. That is true of smallpox, that is true of polio, and that is true of a very long list of drugs that had horrific adverse reactions. The thing that should really scare us is that all of these were touted as "safe and effective" until it became clear they weren't.
 

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Ok, i am working as deputy Station Manager on a privat interdisziplinar ward. (Orthopädic, Trauma surgery, surgery, internally)
In german it calls : stellvertretende Stationsleitung.
Is it now more clear?
BTW I do hope you will either drop a cut and paste of those articles into this thread (which I can then translate in google translate) or a translated version since everyone else on this forum is writing in English.
 

shittim

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Thank you, that is clear. Personally I didn't care what your position was. I would think that someone in administration might be well aware of how many people were dying from Covid, as would a nurse and as would an orderly. I didn't take offense at Shittim's posts the way Angela did. But since you have said what your position is I think it would now be insulting if anyone said otherwise.
"IF" what he is saying is truth. Just as someone here went off on "Newspaper prophecy", we don't know if he is or isn't what he says.
We DO know that Holy Spirit guides in ALL truth, which the poison jab fans do not say is their leading for taking it, quite the contrary. I still in all this time have NEVER known anyone with Holy Spirit guidance to have been led to take the poison.
 

ZNP

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"IF" what he is saying is truth. Just as someone here went off on "Newspaper prophecy", we don't know if he is or isn't what he says.
We DO know that Holy Spirit guides in ALL truth, which the poison jab fans do not say is their leading for taking it, quite the contrary. I still in all this time have NEVER known anyone with Holy Spirit guidance to have been led to take the poison.
Well then if you feel that way just don't refer to his position at all.
 

shittim

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Why?

The posts do not have the ring of truth and credibility we should expect from a medical professional, as you have noted. More like a much lower level, if a hospital employee at all.
 

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Here's something I posted on this site in Feb 2020, as a warning to those fearing the imaginary "corona" virus, and rushing out to get the deadly-vaxx - it has all happened before. Suspicious that the story seems to have been stripped from the search engines, though. But most people know the dishonest tactics of Big Tech by now. ;-)

The 1918 Influenza Epidemic was a Vaccine-caused Disease
Posted on July 11, 2009 by Barbara Peterson

I. Honorof, E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28)

Source: Dr. Rebecca Carley

Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide vaccine campaign. The doctors told the people that the disease was caused by germs. Viruses were not known at that time or they would have been blamed. Germs, bacteria and viruses, along with bacilli and a few other invisible organisms are the scapegoats, which the doctors like to blame for the things they do not understand. If the doctor makes a wrong diagnosis and treatment, and kills the patient, he can always blame it on the germs, and say the patient didn’t get an early diagnosis and come to him in time.

If we check back in history to that 1918 flu period, we will see that it suddenly struck just after the end of World War I when our soldiers were returning home from overseas. That was the first war in which all the known vaccines were forced on all the servicemen. This mish-mash of poison drugs and putrid protein of which the vaccines were composed, caused such widespread disease and death among the soldiers that it was the common talk of the day, that more of our men were being killed by medical shots than by enemy shots from guns. Thousands were invalided home or to military hospitals, as hopeless wrecks, before they ever saw a day of battle. The death and disease rate among the vaccinated soldiers was four times higher than among the unvaccinated civilians. But this did not stop the vaccine promoters. Vaccine has always been big business, and so it was continued doggedly.

It was a shorter war than the vaccine-makers had planned on, only about a year for us, so the vaccine promoters had a lot of unused, spoiling vaccines left over which they wanted to sell at a good profit. So they did what they usually do, they called a meeting behind closed doors, and plotted the whole sordid program, a nationwide (worldwide) vaccination drive using all their vaccines, and telling the people that the soldiers were coming home with many dread diseases contracted in foreign countries and that it was the patriotic duty of every man, woman and child to get "protected" by rushing down to the vaccination centers and having all the shots.

Most people believe their doctors and government officials, and do what they say. The result was, that almost the entire population submitted to the shots without question, and it was only a matter of hours until people began dropping dead in agony, while many others collapsed with a disease of such virulence that no one had ever seen anything like it before. They had all the characteristics of the diseases they had been vaccinated against, the high fever, chills, pain, cramps, diarrhea, etc. of typhoid, and the pneumonia like lung and throat congestion of diphtheria and the vomiting, headache, weakness and misery of hepatitis from the jungle fever shots, and the outbreak of sores on the skin from the smallpox shots, along with paralysis from all the shots, etc.

The doctors were baffled, and claimed they didn’t know what caused the strange and deadly disease, and they certainly had no cure. They should have known the underlying cause was the vaccinations, because the same thing happened to the soldiers after they had their shots at camp. The typhoid fever shots caused a worse form of the disease, which they called para-typhoid. Then they tried to suppress the symptoms of that one with a stronger vaccine, which caused a still more serious disease, which killed and disabled a great many men. The combination of all the poison vaccines fermenting together in the body, caused such violent reactions that they could not cope with the situation. Disaster ran rampant in the camps. Some of the military hospitals were filled with nothing but paralyzed soldiers, and they were called war casualties, even before they left American soil. I talked to some of the survivors of that vaccine onslaught when they returned home after the war, and they told of the horrors, not of the war itself, and battles, but of the sickness at camp.

The doctors didn’t want this massive vaccine disease to reflect on them, so they, agreed among themselves to call it Spanish Influenza. Spain was a far away place and some of the soldiers had been there, so the idea of calling it Spanish Influenza seemed to be a good way to lay the blame on someone else. The Spanish resented having us name the world scourge on them. They knew the flu didn’t originate in their country.

20,000,000 died of that flu epidemic, worldwide, and it seemed to be almost universal or as far away as the vaccinations reached. Greece and a few other countries, which did not accept the vaccines, were the only ones that were not hit by the flu. Doesn’t that prove something?

At home (in the U.S.) the situation was the same; the only ones who escaped the influenza were those who had refused the vaccinations. My family and 1 were among the few who persisted in refusing the high pressure sales propaganda, and none of us had the flu not even a sniffle, in spite of the fact that it was all around us, and in the bitter cold of winter.

Everyone seemed to have it. The whole town was down sick and dying. The hospitals were closed because the doctors and nurses were down with the flu. Everything was closed, schools, businesses, post office everything. No one was on the streets. It was like a ghost town. There were no doctors to care for the sick, so my parents went from house to house doing what they could to help the stricken in any way they could. They spent all day and part of the night for weeks, in the sick rooms, and came home only to eat and sleep. If germs or viruses, bacteria, or any other little organisms were the cause of that disease, they had plenty of opportunity to latch onto my parents and "lay them low" with the disease that had prostrated the world. But germs were not the cause of that or any other disease, so they didn’t "catch" it. I have talked to a few other people since that time, who said they escaped the 1918 flu, so I asked if they had the shots, and in every case, they said they had never believed in shots and had never had any of them. Common sense tells us that all those toxic vaccines all mixed up together in people, could not help but cause extreme body-poisoning and poisoning of some kind or another is usually the cause of disease.

Whenever a person coughs or sneezes, most people cringe, thinking that the germs are being spread around in the air and will attack people. There is no need to fear those germs any more, because that is not the way colds are developed. Germs can’t live apart from the cells (host) and can’t do harm anyway, even if they wanted to. They have no teeth to bite anyone, no poison pouches like snakes, mosquitoes or bees, and do not multiply, except in decomposed substances, so they are helpless to harm. As stated before, their purpose is useful, not destructive.

The 1918 flu was the most devastating disease we ever had, and it brought forth all the medical bag of tricks to quell it, but those added drugs, all of which are poisons, only intensified the over-poisoned condition of the people, so the treatments actually killed more than the flu did.
 

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Thank you Moses Young, come to think of it, we have had veterans who never saw combat and were disabled by vaccinations in boot camp. Messed them up for the rest of their lives.
 

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Why?

The posts do not have the ring of truth and credibility we should expect from a medical professional, as you have noted. More like a much lower level, if a hospital employee at all.
He is speaking in a foreign language. If I tried to share on a German website I'd think my posts would also appear to be juvenile.
 

ZNP

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Here's something I posted on this site in Feb 2020, as a warning to those fearing the imaginary "corona" virus, and rushing out to get the deadly-vaxx - it has all happened before. Suspicious that the story seems to have been stripped from the search engines, though. But most people know the dishonest tactics of Big Tech by now. ;-)

The 1918 Influenza Epidemic was a Vaccine-caused Disease
Posted on July 11, 2009 by Barbara Peterson

I. Honorof, E. McBean (Vaccination The Silent Killer p28)

Source: Dr. Rebecca Carley

Very few people realize that the worst epidemic ever to hit America, the Spanish Influenza of 1918 was the after effect of the massive nation-wide vaccine campaign.
I have heard this before but since I hadn't looked at the supporting evidence I didn't want to repeat it.

From what I understand there are two theories, both of which make sense on some level. Yes, a nationwide campaign of vaccines may have played a role. However, the other theory that having soldiers from all over the world crammed in together in foxholes creates an environment that favors the most virulent strains of the flu. That also makes sense.

In my opinion based on a cursory view of this I would think that the vaccinations done on American soldiers may have weakened their immune system and opened them up to this, but that the environment of cramming people together would also play a role.

The problem I see with this theory of US soldiers being vaccinated doesn't explain why everyone else got the flu around the world. However, it would explain why this flu was so bizarre in attacking young, healthy people more than the elderly.

The other thing I'd point out is that if cramming people together favors the most virulent strains, social distancing would favor the least virulent strains.
 
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The other sad fact about this forum, is the way people stick by their friends instead of the truth
:unsure: gee I tried to say something similar recently and was called a troll..................

guess if you've been around the site 10+ years it makes a difference.

But you know what? I think most of us are guilty (myself included) at some point or another of coming off as "non Christian" because of what we say or how we say it. It's really hard to convey everything through this type of medium, and even when we write something "in love" we never know how the others reading it will perceive it.

Thing is, is you stepped back and reread some of what you've said over the years (without the emotion of it being you who said it), tried to read it as though you were a stranger reading for the first time, maybe you would see yourself doing the EXACT things you whine about others doing.

Well, whatever, it is what it is.

I kind of had an unexpected crisis pop up this morning and am having to deal with a situation now, so that's all I'm going to say about any of that right now. You know, when things happen to us in real life, it kinda has a way of spilling out of us when we type, whether we mean for it to or not.
 

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He is speaking in a foreign language. If I tried to share on a German website I'd think my posts would also appear to be juvenile.
i'm not referring to the language. Truth should resonate in the spirit, Holy Spirit guides in ALL truth, He will cause truth to resonate, his posts do not.