Where did Humanity begin?

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Katia

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According to Academics Homo Sapiens eventually came from "Lucy" in central Africa, and then somehow multiplied over in present day China.

According to scripture it all began down in present day southern Iraq, or with the Persian Zoroastrians with activity eventually moving to the Levant. I think ??? that the Summerican ruins and those in the Americas are approximately from the same general Era or so the experts surmise.
 

Pilgrimshope

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According to Academics Homo Sapiens eventually came from "Lucy" in central Africa, and then somehow multiplied over in present day China.

According to scripture it all began down in present day southern Iraq, or with the Persian Zoroastrians with activity eventually moving to the Levant. I think ??? that the Summerican ruins and those in the Americas are approximately from the same general Era or so the experts surmise.
did they find the missing link between the so called anthropoid ancestors and mankind ? Or ar they just still saying it’s all fact that we evolved over billions of years ?

If evolution is responsible for everything that’s exists why is there still tadpoles that grow into frogs ? And birds that hatch from eggs ? Why haven’t they evolved ?

why are they still surviving through the pro creation Of thier particular species but somehow they evolved over billions of years into man ?

everything about science actually supports the creation design the Bible presents in genesis and also
Many other places through the prophets regarding creation

to believe evolution theory one has to begin with “ there was no beginning and there was nothing but darkness “

and then suddenly and for no cause out of absolutely nothing an explosion of matter and light and gasses and Chemicals and atoms and massive energy which then over billions of years must have evolved into all that exists by itself without rhyme or reason “

then Eventually earth and water and sludge into creatures and organisms and those eventually just mutating into animals and fish and eventually those creatures evolving into mankind …..


It’s harder to believe evolutionary myth than the Bible honestly all it is is them removing the existence of God and what he said from creation and trying to figure out “ how could this happen if there’s no god ?”


“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬


bang !!! Boom !!! Pow !! What causes the Big Bang is the greatest mystery in science because you have to start with “there’s no god and creator “

“how else could it have happened and how long would it have taken if it happened by accident and began from nothing ? That’s the question evolutions theory is trying to answer “ how could this Happen if the Bible isnt true and God didn’t create it with His unthinkable creative power in six days ?

they are looking at Gods work in tbe universe and trying to explain it if he doesn’t exist and it all just happened on its own

where does man come from ? God created a male and female and they began to pro create and have offspring . He did this with each seperate species they don’t come from each other evolving and mutating over time

Humans are created beings not the result of mutations over billions of years, created for a special reason and purpose
 

JaumeJ

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We are warned not to be deceived by what is falsely called knowledge. That which is true is eternal.
 

Nehemiah6

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According to Academics Homo Sapiens eventually came from "Lucy" in central Africa, and then somehow multiplied over in present day China.
That's an interesting fantasy which you should ignore. Just go to Genesis chapters 1 & 2. And no, there was no evolution from monkey to man.
 
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According to Academics Homo Sapiens eventually came from "Lucy" in central Africa, and then somehow multiplied over in present day China.

According to scripture it all began down in present day southern Iraq, or with the Persian Zoroastrians with activity eventually moving to the Levant. I think ??? that the Summerican ruins and those in the Americas are approximately from the same general Era or so the experts surmise.
it began in the Garden of Eden and we are given coordinates based off 4 Rivers. 3 still active and one we know where it did once exist. the debate has always been Africa, but Iraq is factually more realistic. Persian Gulf, as argued by Juris Zarins, in southern Mesopotamia (now Iraq and Kuwait) is probably the best answer.
 

p_rehbein

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According to Academics Homo Sapiens eventually came from "Lucy" in central Africa, and then somehow multiplied over in present day China.

According to scripture it all began down in present day southern Iraq, or with the Persian Zoroastrians with activity eventually moving to the Levant. I think ??? that the Summerican ruins and those in the Americas are approximately from the same general Era or so the experts surmise.
I notice your Profile page says you are "unsure" of your spiritual status.

I suggest you do all you can to fix that problem first. See, there is really nothing to be "unsure" about when it comes to being a Christian. Either you are, or you are not.
 

oyster67

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According to Academics Homo Sapiens eventually came from "Lucy" in central Africa, and then somehow multiplied over in present day China.

According to scripture it all began down in present day southern Iraq, or with the Persian Zoroastrians with activity eventually moving to the Levant. I think ??? that the Summerican ruins and those in the Americas are approximately from the same general Era or so the experts surmise.
The thing I wonder about is... didn't the flood mix everything about and rearrange all the furniture?

Homo Sapiens eventually came from "Lucy" in central Africa, and then somehow multiplied
And today we call them Homo Sexuals. How they multiplied... I will never know. :confused:
 

oyster67

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bang !!! Boom !!! Pow !! What causes the Big Bang is the greatest mystery in science because you have to start with “there’s no god and creator “
And they feed this rubbish (nothing even vaguely scientific about it) to the children in public school textbooks. Woe unto them. "Dumb them down while they are still young!" cries Satan.
 

Pilgrimshope

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And they feed this rubbish (nothing even vaguely scientific about it) to the children in public school textbooks. Woe unto them. "Dumb them down while they are still young!" cries Satan.
oh yes brother the school system and whole education system is definately part of the worlds system . Satan is smart when it comes to deception and corrupting a mind and heart

the crazy thing about the devil is he knows scripture better than most Christian’s , so he knows what can save us and doesn’t want us to hear it and believe. Because his Will is everything Gods Will for us isn’t.

the Bible tells us “ if you take a child d teach them rightly from the early times of their lives it will sink in and become a character strength . They will stray because we are all sinners s we grow in this world , but they will always return having that foundational character point

the same is true of corruption of the mknd and heart of early children are taught lies and told they are true , it corrupts thier ability to accept the result truth when they hear Gods word it becomes a character flaw

do you remember madalyn Murray ohair brother ? I can’t remember the years I think it was mid 70s but she founded and spread and grew the American atheists foundation ?

since those days the Bible is not taught in school or allowed to be shared with others, group prayer is not allowed because it may offend atheist that doesn’t want to participate ,

so my point is they first have to remove the Bible from the “ education” system and then they are free to start misinforming the young mknds and leading them astray just as your getting at there it’s satans only play against us it’s the only avenue of attack against us

he does it repeatedly we hear What God said and he comes and tries to snatch it from our belief before we can on see it and understand

When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:19‬ ‭KJV‬

you know that term “ kingdom “ of you look that’s what was given to Adam and Eve in the beginning the earth was thier kingdom a gift from God thier creator a place to have dominion and be fruitful and multiply to grow the human family of God and have fellowship with him

when God told them all this and went and rested then came the devil asking them “ did God really say that you can’t eat every fruit ? surely that’s not true , surely you won’t die , he knows the forbidden fruit will make you wise “

when He did this he corrupted thier mind and perception of themselves and of God thoer Father and authority thier creator and superior

in essence it made them begin to think “ earth is mine now I get to define what is good and what is evil “ he twisted thier mmnds and took the word of the kingdom God had given them in genesis 1-2

When he went to rest on the seventh day

Satan came like he does trying to take what God said away from our faith and belief and tell us anything else that won’t lead us to the same belief

School is a dangerous place of parents aren’t careful what thier kids are bieng taught math , reading , writing , most science , ect along with friendly and respectful behavior towards others is all schools should teach but tha the not what happens now is you review social and ideological doctrine they are actually indoctrinating minds that later are going to struggle believing the Bible evolution is only the tip of the ice burg sadly children and public school is a massive issue and not one that’s getting g a lot of notice in America but has the power to radically change America in a single generation for the worse and turn a whole generation against the truth

I think eventually this is what would bring mass Christian persecution when the world no longer finds the Bible acceptable among us like Madelyn Murray ohair and us public schools years ago

the word is really fading in the world I’ve seen it fade in my time it’s strong in bekievers but scarce in the world
 

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do you remember madalyn Murray ohair brother ? I can’t remember the years I think it was mid 70s but she founded and spread and grew the American atheists foundation ?
Yes.

Spooky one, she was.

I think eventually this is what would bring mass Christian persecution when the world no longer finds the Bible acceptable among us like Madelyn Murray ohair and us public schools years ago
We must be preparing our hearts (and those of our children) now. No time for spiritual sleep or slumber at this late stage.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Yes.

Spooky one, she was.



We must be preparing our hearts (and those of our children) now. No time for spiritual sleep or slumber at this late stage.
amen. Brother we’ll said and I think the best thing we can do presently is continue on the path and direction the lord set before us that has the power to save souls no matter what condition we’re in

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;

but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16‬ ‭

I want a huge family in eternity
 

Eli1

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According to Academics Homo Sapiens eventually came from "Lucy" in central Africa, and then somehow multiplied over in present day China.

According to scripture it all began down in present day southern Iraq, or with the Persian Zoroastrians with activity eventually moving to the Levant. I think ??? that the Summerican ruins and those in the Americas are approximately from the same general Era or so the experts surmise.
I can think of 3 answers here.

1. You have the scientific view which you already mentioned. Take that with a bag of salt.
2. You have the second option but the problem with that is that Eden is not a location on Earth.
3. Third option is Eden existed in a different dimension where Adam and Eve existed with incorruptible bodies, like the body of Jesus who rose from the dead and the bodies we will get on resurrection which were promised by God.
 

Webers.Home

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Where did Humanity begin?

It's very difficult to discover where Eden was located back in Adam's day
because the Earth has undergone some dramatic geological events in the
distant past. We can be sure of that because it is now impossible for any river
in Ethiopia to connect in any way at all with the Tigris and Euphrates rivers
of today's world.

* The age of Lucy's bones (3.18 million years) is handy for proving that the
Earth is much, much older than the young-Earth theorists have thus far given
it credit.
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