And the SMOKE of their torment...No eternal damnation for anyone, except the Devil

Please take me off ignore, Magenta. I miss you. You have punished me long enough.

So, if not logged on, a poster will see all posts. Right?

Well you both been here a really long time. I haven't been here all that long and have put people on and off of ignore a few times. All but 2 have gotten banned so I figure I wasn't the only one doing so. But they are the ones that within three or 4 posts you find your spirit sad and your flesh mad.

I believe so.

oyster67 said:
When you tell her about this, she can come in without logging on and read this (that is what she means by cheating. )
Hey, oyster67, this is the second admission in 20 minutes where klero admits to his hyper-sensitivity and emotionalism.

And he gets made when I call his sentiments maudlin, which means hyper-sensitivity and hyper-emotional sentiments.

I thought you had me on ignore too. I'm glad you don't.

FreeGrace2 said:
So, if not logged on, a poster will see all posts. Right?
Thanks. I don't bother with using the "ignore" function. I prefer answering questions and correcting errors.

Amen to that

WELL that answered my next question. I hope it wasn't fatal. Sometimes we think we are tossing a pebble at someone, yet on their end they have a boulder drop on them. Sometimes it's hard to tell.

I'm an inquisitive oyster. (Enquiring minds want to know, you know. )

I still have a lot of growing room in this little shell of mine.

That's about the only thing oysters know how to do.

No one likes to be talked to rudely and disrespectfully. The general tone some people have is belittling and unChrist like. It’s a form of passive aggressive behavior, but it’s aggression nevertheless.

It gives them the plausible deniability they need to insult and put-down people. This works because it is worded in an indirect subjective way. That way they can always squirm their way out of it when confronted about it then turn the tables on you and attack you again, accusing you of lying and bearing false witness.

Jesus said to not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces. Just something to be aware of.

You will see here that there are many people who are cunning like a snake and just as slippery too. It’s their way of verbally backhanding you.

Occasionally they’ll slip up and use a direct insult. In that case they just deny and deflect and even outright lie. Like I said, if you speak to some people here then immediately prepare for spiritual warfare.

2 Corinthians 2:11
11Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

Is that a thing? I didn't know about that.

Let's all put Satan on ignore.

When Satan reminds us of our past, remind him of his future...

I like this one better

Matthew 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

Matthew 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

There will be no wiggle room. Remember this verse?

Because with lies ye have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and strengthened the hands of the wicked, that he should not return from his wicked way, and I know it ends with by promising him life: but I think it appropriate here because 'eternal torture' being put forth as GODS CHARACTER, does make me sad. TRULY, VERY SAD. And I don't think anyone should mock others because they have strong feelings. I don't think you should keep pushing like a bully just to make sure you embarrass them with words put forth just to belittle. I don't think GOD likes it at all either.

Matthew 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.



Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Hebrews 4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.


BUT I try to look at it as more my test, my persecution because every time I rise up from it, following the Lords commands, I mature, I become a better soldier for Christ and that is my goal.


Well it is so much better said here

1 Corinthians 9:19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.

1 Corinthians 9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

1 Corinthians 9:21 To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

1 Corinthians 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

1 Corinthians 9:23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.

1 Corinthians 9:24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain.

1 Corinthians 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.

1 Corinthians 9:26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air:

1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.



2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

2 Timothy 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

2 Timothy 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

2 Timothy 2:22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.