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chess-player

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I would say that God is love. This is what I feel in my heart. This is confirmed in 1John.

My knowledge of the Lord began with the fear of the Lord. By this, I mean respect and not fear. From there, my understanding about God was knowing that He is love.

God always was and always will be and everything created obeys Him as to what He wants to do.

God is three separate entities, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit that comprise one God.

Jesus, under the authority of the Father, died for our sins so that we may have eternal life with God. The Holy Spirit comforts and guides us in the life-long repentance process.

God wants us to have life and have it more abundantly.

The Father has prepared work beforehand for me to accomplish by His grace. My purpose on earth is to humbly serve the Lord. It is my mission, first, last, always.
Excellent response!
 

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Just a quick note, being a believer in the Messiah by itself does not make one a Christian. E.g. Moslems also believe that Jesus is the Messiah and await the Second Coming.

1) God is the presence depicted in the Christian Bible. The Godhead is a Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The Apostles Creed and the Nicene Creed are a brief synopsis of who the Christian God is.

2) I'm here to learn, and I find a kind of joy finding other Christians to discuss things with even if we don't agree on all points.

3) To fulfil the path set before me, both that which has been revealed and that which has yet to be revealed

4) This questions can mean many things. What do you mean by it? I believe people will act according to their natures, and that we will see people's natures by their fruit. Are you asking whom I place trust in? I trust in that which is done from the heart. I trust in the goodness that shines through people into the world.

5) No. And as an aspect of authetic pride, unless someone is depressed or full of self-doubt, I don't think anyone would answer "yes" to this question. If someone were talking about past beliefs, that might be a different question because the past self can be seen as an external person. But like Paul reflecting on his time as Saul, were those trying times really without reason? or did they build his understanding into what it needed to be? So that he was able to speak from personal experience rather than secondary anecdote.

6) I have faith that the substance of my belief is correct even if the form is wrong. Life finds a way through love. Without Love there is no life. The question we should be asking isn't whether the procedure of our beliefs conform to a compelling understanding, but whether the substance of love within those beliefs is shining through. We are all dead without that love in our hearts. God is love
To believe in the Messiah means you open the door of your inner being for Him to come and rule in your life through His grace and His deep love. There is a huge difference between believing in Jesus and the belief of Muslims. The first demands a life commitment based on the love of God that removed our sins forever and gave us His Spirit to help us walk in the truth; the second one, on the other hand, is a mental belief that gives lip service to an imaginary Jesus at best.

Just in case, my questions were made to Christians, not outsiders, therefore the answer must be Jesus, and their response will have to do with why you believe in Him. Is it in accordance with what He has done for you, or is it about what you can get out of Him? Paul said, "He loved me and gave Himself for me" (Gal. 2:20). Paul knew by personal experience how much he was loved. His entire life after his initial conversion reflected that.


The question for us is whether we know that kind of love or not.

(I asked) 5) Are you disappointed with your beliefs? Why? Why not?

Many Christians are on the verge of walking away from the Lord because they don't know how He can help them to overcome all their issues. Perhaps no one taught them the true how.

I wish someone had said that so we could start a dialogue that would help him/her to begin a life of faith with the real Jesus who has revealed Himself through the venue of the Holy Spirit.
 

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1 John 4:8b~ God is Love
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That is the heart of it all! If only some believers could define what kind of love God has for them. God's agape love is totally different from the "American sweet love" which is a syrupy kind of love that is as deep as a spoon of honey.
 

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Really? An outsider came here and posted questions about Christianity that had nothing to with the Lord, and many posters jumped all over to respond to him.

By the way, all you have to do is concentrate on one question. I never said that all questions had to be answered. 😁
Questions come with different intents. Some not so good.

Two common types seen on this site are:
Questions, or a series of questions, where the OP is secretly trying to make a point. They word things in certain ways to try to trap people. They never want to answer their own questions because it would reveal their motives.

The other is questions, or a series of questions, where the OP places their own knowledge or walk as being above others. They, too, withhold answering their own questions, though they are more prone to answer After others already have. It's their starting point for correcting everyone.

Your questions were formatted after these, hence making users doubtful of your motives. And, as it turns out, you were waiting for people to give certain answers so you could correct them.
To me this seems manipulative, and thus not from a good motive.
 

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Questions come with different intents. Some not so good.

Two common types seen on this site are:
Questions, or a series of questions, where the OP is secretly trying to make a point. They word things in certain ways to try to trap people. They never want to answer their own questions because it would reveal their motives.

The other is questions, or a series of questions, where the OP places their own knowledge or walk as being above others. They, too, withhold answering their own questions, though they are more prone to answer After others already have. It's their starting point for correcting everyone.

Your questions were formatted after these, hence making users doubtful of your motives. And, as it turns out, you were waiting for people to give certain answers so you could correct them.
To me this seems manipulative, and thus not from a good motive.
Now THIS is an honest answer and I know a lot of people here and in real life do it but for the sake of enjoying these discussions let me ask you all this question:
How do you know your beliefs will carry you to your next life?
Does this have anything to do with salvation which is a wonderful topic to talk about? :D
 

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Questions come with different intents. Some not so good.

Two common types seen on this site are:
Questions, or a series of questions, where the OP is secretly trying to make a point. They word things in certain ways to try to trap people. They never want to answer their own questions because it would reveal their motives.

The other is questions, or a series of questions, where the OP places their own knowledge or walk as being above others. They, too, withhold answering their own questions, though they are more prone to answer After others already have. It's their starting point for correcting everyone.

Your questions were formatted after these, hence making users doubtful of your motives. And, as it turns out, you were waiting for people to give certain answers so you could correct them.
To me this seems manipulative, and thus not from a good motive.
Whatever you say... Stop trying to analyze my motives, big guy. Go and lecture someone else.
 
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Have you ever questioned your beliefs and why they matter? As a believer in the Messiah, I would like to ask you a few questions and see for yourself if you can answer them honestly. The purpose of this thread is to see if your beliefs (and mine) matter for practical living and beyond.

1) Who is God? Please define who your God is in a few words.
2) Why are you here?
3) What is the purpose of your life?
4) Who do you believe and why?
5) Are you disappointed with your beliefs? Why? Why not?

6) Are you confident that your beliefs will carry you beyond this life? How so?

Please use your own words. NO SCRIPTURES ARE NECESSARY.

I will answer my own questions if necessary.

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Great thread!

To me, God is a being that I can never fully describe beyond the spiritual. I say this because I believe he is the spirit behind every situation, happening or occurrence that I can’t explain objectively. This is why I trust him as my guardian, even though I don’t interact with him physically.

I am assuming you mean, in this world. I am here because this is the chosen time that God needed everything about me (my personality, intellect, appearance etc.) to be used for specific purposes designed by him.

The purpose of my life can only be described as a state of existence to fulfil a role that is special or unique to me. A correlation between my natural and supernatural self that thinks, perceives and act in a certain way, regarding instances or circumstances at any given time.

No I am not disappointed with my beliefs but from time to time, certain issues will cause me to experience conflicting views of my faith and my logical thinking.

I’m afraid I can only speak confidently about the here and now. Anything beyond my present time of existence is naturally uncertain. Not only is that plausible (in my opinion) but it is for me, my reality.
 
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Jackieboy100

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Really? An outsider came here and posted questions about Christianity that had nothing to with the Lord, and many posters jumped all over to respond to him.

By the way, all you have to do is concentrate on one question. I never said that all questions had to be answered. 😁
I get that you might not want your answers to influence the response from others but it is typical and courteous for the original poster to oblige, right from the outset.
 

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Great thread!

To me, God is a being that I can never fully describe beyond the spiritual. I say this because I believe he is the spirit behind every situation, happening or occurrence that I can’t explain objectively. This is why I trust him as my guardian, even though I don’t interact with him physically.

I am assuming you mean, in this world. I am here because this is the chosen time that God needed everything about me (my personality, intellect, appearance etc.) to be used for specific purposes designed by him.

The purpose of my life can only be described as a state of existence to fulfil a role that is special or unique to me. A correlation between my natural and supernatural self that thinks, perceives and act in a certain way, regarding instances or circumstances at any given time.

No I am not disappointed with my beliefs but from time to time, certain issues will cause me to experience conflicting views of my faith and my logical thinking.

I’m afraid I can only speak confidently about the here and now. Anything beyond my present time of existence is naturally uncertain. Not only is that plausible (in my opinion) but it is for me, my reality.
The purpose of my life can only be described as a state of existence to fulfil a role that is special or unique to me.

Would you be willing to describe what that role is?
 
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The purpose of my life can only be described as a state of existence to fulfil a role that is special or unique to me.

Would you be willing to describe what that role is?
I can not say for certain what my God-given role is because only my creator would know just what that is, like in the case of Judas, who betrayed our lord and savior to make the crucifixion possible. So it is possible that he (Judas) may have played several other roles but this was specific for the purpose of aiding the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ. I don't think I'll ever know what that role is or when and how it will play out. I am just content to know that no matter how long I live, as a child of God I will be used by him in a specific role, even if infinitesimal, for the advancement of his kingdom. I hope this make sense, somewhat.
 

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I can not say for certain what my God-given role is because only my creator would know just what that is, like in the case of Judas, who betrayed our lord and savior to make the crucifixion possible. So it is possible that he (Judas) may have played several other roles but this was specific for the purpose of aiding the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ. I don't think I'll ever know what that role is or when and how it will play out. I am just content to know that no matter how long I live, as a child of God I will be used by him in a specific role, even if infinitesimal, for the advancement of his kingdom. I hope this make sense, somewhat.
Would you like me to share with you what I believe?
 

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1) Who is God? Please define who your God is in a few words: God is the part of me that is spirit. God spirited into Adam in the beginning,
and when we accept Him we accept that spirit into ourselves.

2) Why are you here? I am here because God created me.

3) What is the purpose of your life? My purpose is to do good and to show others the love and mercy that God has shown me, through
the changes made in my life, and the way I love and show mercy to others.

4) Who do you believe and why? Who do I believe? No idea what that means. My beliefs come from my own studying and understanding.
I am sure I have learned from many, but I don't agree with anyone 100%, and to me that is okay. If I agree with someone all the time on every thing, life would get boring with that person.

5) Are you disappointed with your beliefs? Why? Why not? Nope not one little bit, because they are my choices, and I can choose differently at any time (freewill, baby).

6) Are you confident that your beliefs will carry you beyond this life? How so? I am quite confident my beliefs will carry me beyond this life. I am a soul in a temporary body, not a body with a temporary soul.

Peace.
 

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Yes please! Thank you for offerring. I really appreciate your efforts to give your insight
Let me see since there are several ways to put this into the proper perspective. As I see in the scriptures, the purpose of my life (and everyone else's) is to demonstrate in my life behavior that I have come out of death to life by the power of the Holy Spirit through a simple YES that I gave to Him when I heard the gospel for the first time.

The result of my 'YES' re-directed me to the right path (Ps. 23:3) to the point that I'm waking up slowly to know my creator and redeemer who is the only one who can tell me who I am and why I'm here. In order to do that, I have to pay attention and understand what Christ has done for me, and so in the process of getting up in the morning, taking a shower, having breakfast with my wife, and going on my day, I begin to know Him intimately because God my Father gave me the blueprint through the life of Christ of how should I live in a world that reeks of sin and perversion.

When God became Man (a full human being), He faced the perversion of the Romans, the hypocrisy of religion, and the brokenness of people that had dead eyes with no hope of ever-changing. He became human and began the process of the restoration of the human race, one by one, by one... so that once all has been said and done, He can take me home once He closes my eyes... I will then see for myself what true life is all about.

My purpose then is to know Him as I let the Holy Spirit teach me how to live my life moment by moment. I have also learned to love perfect quietness because that is the time, He talks...


I have a video where a Bible teacher talks about how Jesus is in our rear-view mirror. What a message! This teacher whose name is Malcolm Smith has helped me so much through the years to know the God who came to rescue me from having dead eyes and a life without hope.

I also love God's word which is a treasure I use to help me walk with God.


God bless you!!!
 

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1) Who is God? Please define who your God is in a few words: God is the part of me that is spirit. God spirited into Adam in the beginning,
and when we accept Him we accept that spirit into ourselves.

2) Why are you here? I am here because God created me.

3) What is the purpose of your life? My purpose is to do good and to show others the love and mercy that God has shown me, through
the changes made in my life, and the way I love and show mercy to others.

4) Who do you believe and why? Who do I believe? No idea what that means. My beliefs come from my own studying and understanding.
I am sure I have learned from many, but I don't agree with anyone 100%, and to me that is okay. If I agree with someone all the time on every thing, life would get boring with that person.

5) Are you disappointed with your beliefs? Why? Why not? Nope not one little bit, because they are my choices, and I can choose differently at any time (freewill, baby).

6) Are you confident that your beliefs will carry you beyond this life? How so? I am quite confident my beliefs will carry me beyond this life. I am a soul in a temporary body, not a body with a temporary soul.

Peace.

Your responses are excellent. I didn't understand the answer you gave to number four although I have to admit my question was not too clear. Who do you believe? Jesus of course. Why? Because He loved me and gave Himself up for me (Gal. 2:20).

I apologize because question #4 was not clear.