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TheNarrowPath

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Is this true that the mandates are scrapped there now?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/owutKT1I9itC/
Thats what Cindy the PM said. Hospitals, doctors and pharmacy you still have to wear a mask. Vaccines requirements are gone but available to those who want or need it. If you test positive for covid only you have isolate for 7 days not your household. And yes elections are around the corner.
 

shittim

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Wonderful news! Thank you and blessings to you and yours.:):coffee:(y):unsure:
 

Lanolin

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Lots of people still wearing masks though in some workplaces ...workplaces are their own kingdoms and can make up their own rules, but, I supoose if you dont agree with them you can find work somewhere else or just refuse to work.

I think it also depends on how immunocompromised or paranoid you might be.

Also I think some might have used isolation as an excuse to not work or go to school. At any rate I think its a relief as most people had got it and recovered by now though yes, those who were vulnerable were hardest hit. Most reported that the flu felt worse...but there is vaccine for the flu as well.

I think I will wear my mask for other reasons though...smelly stinky childrens feet being one of them. It protects my nose lol
 

shittim

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We still have the excessively paranoid
"corona-phobics" running around in face diapers.
 

Lanolin

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In nz most business are small businesses not huge multinationals. It did affect organisations that had lean staff. Often there was not a pool of casual or relief workers to step in.

Also, people will always be attracted to higher wages paid overseas. I think for the average person who may only have one source of income, if that source is not steady and secure then it contributes to the stress.

However millenials etc are now pretty much used to the gig economy and are prepared to travel to wherever the work is. I think that some people would have complained no matter what the govt did anyway, for some it comes down to personal responsibility for health and wellbeing. But people still do stupid things and you cant legislate stupid.
 

Lanolin

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Toilet paper has not run out.

But I think girls can now access free sanitary pads.
 

Nehemiah6

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Thats what Cindy the PM said. Hospitals, doctors and pharmacy you still have to wear a mask. Vaccines requirements are gone but available to those who want or need it. If you test positive for covid only you have isolate for 7 days not your household. And yes elections are around the corner.
What a bunch of baloney. After everything has been proven to be useless and bogus, they carry on with this charade. But this is happening everywhere. There is no truth and honesty at the top.
 

Nehemiah6

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GardenofWeeden

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Lanolin

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I think it depends on your countries rules not ours. I think if you going for any length of time people recommend travel insurance but not everyone buys this.

eg if you fall ill in nz, that you end up in hospital you may have treatment for free under public health, unlike some countries we dont turn people away if they cant pay on the spot.

If you arent vaccinated and fall ill then its probably more on you to deal with as the effects on the unvaccinated are worse than the vaccinated. That goes for any type of disease.

People who are ill shouldnt really travel anyway...and nz is a long long long way from most other countries, if you get stuck here!
 

Lanolin

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Quarantine rules are strict though for everything else (bioseceurity) please dont bring your fruit flies and mutant algae.

oh and sniffer dogs will search you...dont bring drugs into the country, like P. Ugh.
 

Lanolin

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I think as long as you are not carrying nuclear weapons, you can travel in nz.

If I recall international terrorists and warmongers not welcome in nz, but it seems australian gang members are. They are causing huge problems here by displacing our own gangs. ?!

Otherwise...try and spend as much time (and money) as you can in nz. You CAN visit volcanoes and climb the mountains if you want but you do so at your own risk.
 

TheNarrowPath

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We still have the excessively paranoid
"corona-phobics" running around in face diapers.
Really considering putting my kid in another school next year after seeing two classes outside doing phys ed today (a ball game) and both teachers and all the students were wearing masks! Outside! What madness!
 

shittim

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I have it easy, I don't need to make that decision, what is the Lord's guidance on this? We must not lean on our own understanding. His is always the best plan.:)(y):unsure:
 

Lanolin

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Really considering putting my kid in another school next year after seeing two classes outside doing phys ed today (a ball game) and both teachers and all the students were wearing masks! Outside! What madness!
a lot of teachers are still wearing them until end of term but I havent since mandates dropped.

I think kids dont really have a choice in what school they go to usually its the parents decision and if they dont like it too bad, but it disrupts their learning if they constantly changing schools. Besides, most schools would be doing the same thing anyway so even if you put your kid in another school would still have the same problem.
 

Lanolin

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also, the expenisve of buying another uniform, new bus/transport routes and stigma of being the 'new kid' is something parents seem to not consider for their child.
 

TheNarrowPath

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also, the expenisve of buying another uniform, new bus/transport routes and stigma of being the 'new kid' is something parents seem to not consider for their child.
The fees for me would be the biggest barrier. Was talking to others from church about the schools they are looking into. McAuley has a term fee which is $200 plus compared to Manukau Christian School which is $2000 plus a term. My kid also wants to leave her current school so still checking out other options but it was a number of reasons we are weighing the pros and cons of another school for next year.
 

Lanolin

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You'll just need to work more to pay the fees if you want your child to go to an independent or charter school.

I have heard that the ministry is scrapping the decile system though although not sure how thats going to change things. Most low decile state schools dont ask for donations, they are not allowed to.

I am not sure how church schools work whether preference is given to children of church members, although I have heard that catholic schools you need to be a paid up member of the catholic church. But thats a different story. Non catholics sometimes send their children there but I dont know if they get charged more in 'donations'/fees. I do know they attract a lot of foreign/international students whos parents pay a lot for them to study there, and their fees actually. pay to keep the school running. When covid hit they lost that revenue.

The same applied to universities. Dont forget that education is a now a business in nz and one of its greatest export.