Putin got it right this time

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Dude653

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Post #55 in "Putin got it right this time"

Let's see how well this ages.
Since you seem to be Putin's biggest cheerleader why don't you move there?
 

ZNP

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Since you seem to be Putin's biggest cheerleader why don't you move there?
What is your military background? Which war did you fight in? What did you do in the military?

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Our position is not unassailable. Russia has nuclear torpedoes that can create 1,000 foot high tsunamis that are radioactive. We cannot stop those. A first strike by them will take out the cities and homes for 65% of America's population.

They have hypersonic missiles with nuclear bombs that are 20x as big as the one that landed on Hiroshima.

In their first strike they can take out the entire power grid for the US, wipe out the residential area for 65% of Americans and threaten so many more with radioactive dust.

But go ahead, keep up your pom poms for war with Russia. When it does happen those that survive the first attack will remember post #55
 

Dude653

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What is your military background? Which war did you fight in? What did you do in the military?

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Our position is not unassailable. Russia has nuclear torpedoes that can create 1,000 foot high tsunamis that are radioactive. We cannot stop those. A first strike by them will take out the cities and homes for 65% of America's population.

They have hypersonic missiles with nuclear bombs that are 20x as big as the one that landed on Hiroshima.

In their first strike they can take out the entire power grid for the US, wipe out the residential area for 65% of Americans and threaten so many more with radioactive dust.

But go ahead, keep up your pom poms for war with Russia. When it does happen those that survive the first attack will remember post #55
Or the entire free world could just cut them off and let them be the new North korea.
Basically bankrupt them. They will have to surrender eventually
 

Dirtman

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Jesus literally instructed his followers to go out and evangelize.
So people are going to jail in Russia for doing what Jesus instructed them to do. I'm trying to figure out why Christians are gassing up Putin like he's a hero or something
I was just stating the fact.
I dont know why anyone would be "gassing up" Putin. Russia still sucks.
 

ZNP

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Or the entire free world could just cut them off and let them be the new North korea.
Basically bankrupt them. They will have to surrender eventually
That is not how you make peace. Russia's request is very reasonable, they don't want Ukraine to join NATO, they don't want nuclear missiles parked on their border, they don't want the same people who invaded the Ukraine and killed 20 million during WWII to inhabit Ukraine now. That is reasonable and forcing a nuclear war over that or trying to turn a country of this size into N. Korea is cruel and inhumane.

You keep accusing me of being a cheerleader for Putin, this shows how little you understand.

I was the one who started the thread about Biden being the most humble. I want Biden to run again in 2024 and I want every Democrat running during the midterms to own him and have him come out and campaign for them. I agree that Biden being president is under the Lord's sovereignty and He will rub the noses of everyone who supported this regime in it. I'm all for that.

As for Putin I know that this will lead to Armageddon. I am not trying to contradict the prophecies, I just want to make those who supported this and promoted this approach, like yourself, famous.

Once again, what is your military background? What war did you fight in? Did you graduate from West Point?
 

Dirtman

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Or the entire free world could just cut them off and let them be the new North korea.
Basically bankrupt them. They will have to surrender eventually
Russia has europe over a barrel, literally. Supplying over 40% of their energy gas and oil.
Which is why there has been no meaningful intervention in Ukraine.
 

Dirtman

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We stepped in it literally by upsetting the balance in eastern Europe.
 
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America has the most powerful military in the world. There's a reason why Red Dawn is fiction
And Russia and China are #2 and #3. And this is beside Nuclear Weapons. China also has a large manpower. Be careful.

I am convinced beyond reasonable doubt that this Divine Chastisement is coming because of 50+ Years of Abortion.

"China, the most powerful country in Asia and a growing adversary to the U.S., ranks third on this list.

The communist superpower has an estimated active personnel of 2,183,000 – the largest in the world ...

Russia, whose military has become involved in Syria and Ukraine in recent years, has the most tanks of any country in the world: 12,950, more than double what the U.S. has, according to Global Firepower’s statistics.

Its estimated 1,013,628 active personnel, on land, are in charge of commanding 27,038 armored vehicles, 6,083 units of self-propelled artillery and 3,860 rocket projectors."

Taken from: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/02/24/5-most-powerful-armies-world.html

Also see this article: "America Cannot Take On China And Russia Simultaneously
U.S. concerns about the risks of fighting a coming war with Russia and China are well-grounded, given it is unprepared to fight even a purely conventional war with them." https://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-cannot-take-china-and-russia-simultaneously-194899

Only one thing can save the West. Turning back to Our Lord Jesus with all one's heart and trusting in His Protection Alone.

Hymn: "Under the shadow of Thy throne
Thy saints have dwelt secure;
Sufficient is Thine Arm alone,
And our defence is sure."

https://www.hymnal.net/en/hymn/h/607
 
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Also, see this excerpt from the above article which references the Nuclear Issue. N.B. Article was written in October 4, 2021. 1 year ago exactly. And we've already seen much more happen since then, like Russia's 2nd invasion of Ukraine.

And China grows increasingly belligerent against Taiwan. These are dangerous times. Let us pray and turn to God fully.

"In a previous article, “Russia and China are Already Winning the Nuclear Arms Race,” I discussed the dangers to U.S. national security from the breathtaking advances by China and Russia in expanding the size of their nuclear arsenals to a level far in excess of the size of the current U.S. nuclear arsenal. The more that Russia’s and China’s superiority over the United States in terms of nuclear and other unconventional weapons such as super-Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) and cyberweapons, as well as in terms of overall nuclear war survivability, continues to increase, the greater their temptation will be to engage in increasingly brazen international aggression abroad. We have already seen examples of this happening with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2014, China’s occupation of disputed islands in the South China Sea over the last several years, and what appears to be an increasingly imminent Chinese invasion of Taiwan."
 

Dude653

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And Russia and China are #2 and #3. And this is beside Nuclear Weapons. China also has a large manpower. Be careful.

I am convinced beyond reasonable doubt that this Divine Chastisement is coming because of 50+ Years of Abortion.

"China, the most powerful country in Asia and a growing adversary to the U.S., ranks third on this list.

The communist superpower has an estimated active personnel of 2,183,000 – the largest in the world ...

Russia, whose military has become involved in Syria and Ukraine in recent years, has the most tanks of any country in the world: 12,950, more than double what the U.S. has, according to Global Firepower’s statistics.

Its estimated 1,013,628 active personnel, on land, are in charge of commanding 27,038 armored vehicles, 6,083 units of self-propelled artillery and 3,860 rocket projectors."

Taken from: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/02/24/5-most-powerful-armies-world.html

Also see this article: "America Cannot Take On China And Russia Simultaneously
U.S. concerns about the risks of fighting a coming war with Russia and China are well-grounded, given it is unprepared to fight even a purely conventional war with them." https://nationalinterest.org/feature/america-cannot-take-china-and-russia-simultaneously-194899

Only one thing can save the West. Turning back to Our Lord Jesus with all one's heart and trusting in His Protection Alone.

Hymn: "Under the shadow of Thy throne
Thy saints have dwelt secure;
Sufficient is Thine Arm alone,
And our defence is sure."

https://www.hymnal.net/en/hymn/h/607
China is not supporting Russia in this invasion
China is an entirely different problem. The reason they will never be held accountable for anything is basically since America buys almost everything from china, we need them more than they need us
 

Moses_Young

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Ha, ha. Good meme, for a lefty. This is the first lefty meme I've ever seen that works... almost. ;-)

But I do agree with the message (I also agree with the original post, just to be clear). Just because someone says something that's right - Putin, Trump, Biden (nothing comes to mind here, but there might be something) - they're not necessarily on God's side.

You rightly point out that Putin criminalizes Christianity. Churches are routinely destroyed and Christians persecuted on Russian territory (i.e. Christians who do not practice the state religion, which is more like a brand of Catholicism than Christianity). The aim, in my view, is to create two poles (the Satanic and decaying West and the illuminated Luciferian Great Awakening), and get everyone to take a side (neither of which is God's side). As Christians - we're on God's side, and I think this will be more and more important (and more difficult) to remember and to practice as this war progresses.

This said, I don't think the intention of the original post was to praise Putin. It's highlighting the irony that even the leader of a country that has never apologised for its atrocious history of Communism and democide of tens of millions can see the destruction of traditional values and rise of devil-worship in the West.
 

Eli1

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Dirtman

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America has the most powerful military in the world. There's a reason why Red Dawn is fiction
Yet after 22 years of fighting backward 15th century troglodytes in no man's land we retreated; leaving billions of dollars in hardware to cavemen.
 

Nehemiah6

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Yet after 22 years of fighting backward 15th century troglodytes in no man's land we retreated; leaving billions of dollars in hardware to cavemen.
The total lack of SANE leadership within the armed forces is simply appalling. To think that these men trained their whole lives to make the right decisions, and then invariably made stupid decisions is something to behold. And no one got fired, no one resigned, and no one was court martialed.

As to "cavemen" all the invaders of Afghanistan always underestimated the Afghans and then turned tail and ran away. And no one learned any lessons from history. If Alexander the Great could not conquer these cavemen, what made the British, Russians, and Americans think they could?
 

Dirtman

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The total lack of SANE leadership within the armed forces is simply appalling. To think that these men trained their whole lives to make the right decisions, and then invariably made stupid decisions is something to behold. And no one got fired, no one resigned, and no one was court martialed.

As to "cavemen" all the invaders of Afghanistan always underestimated the Afghans and then turned tail and ran away. And no one learned any lessons from history. If Alexander the Great could not conquer these cavemen, what made the British, Russians, and Americans think they could?
I don't think that our army today could defeat Alexander the great as his army was in his day.
 

Moses_Young

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I don't think that our army today could defeat Alexander the great as his army was in his day.
Didn't they slaughter civilians in those days if convenient? That would make winning a war much easier, would it not?
 

ZNP

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I don't think that our army today could defeat Alexander the great as his army was in his day.
I think I would put my money on machine guns, tanks, helicopters, artillery and air support.
 

Billyd

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I think I would put my money on machine guns, tanks, helicopters, artillery and air support.
All that, and the Taliban still controls Afghanistan!