Putin got it right this time

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ZNP

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All that, and the Taliban still controls Afghanistan!
Fair point, Afghanistan is no threat to the US but vice versa, in the mountains horses and a machine gun and a cave are pretty difficult to deal with.
 

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In the end, it's the boots on the ground and their motivation to win at any cost, that will win the war.
 

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Allies trying to stop Hitler from genociding an entire race of people versus a dictator invading a sovereign country.
Doesn't logically follow.
Logically follow? To be a Christian and be praising a guy who literally criminalized Christianity
You think Street preachers have a hard time in america? Go to Russia and start handing out religious pamphlets and see how quick you go to jail
you'll get arrested in Europe for preaching in the street.
 

ZNP

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or Iraq ... Vietnam, Syria, Libya on and on.
'Yes, but the US only killed bad people.' -- modified quote from Arnold Schwarzneggar in True Lies.
 

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'Yes, but the US only killed bad people.' -- modified quote from Arnold Schwarzneggar in True Lies.
Its not true though. Think of the banana republic wars. And I could get started on ww1 .
 

ZNP

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Its not true though. Think of the banana republic wars. And I could get started on ww1 .
No it is a joke, except of course to those who are killed and their families, friends, and neighbors. But it does expose the hypocrisy.
 

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Gender dysphoria is a real phenomenon though. It's a neurological condition in which the person feels as if he or she is in the wrong body.
How you address it is debatable but pretending it's not a real thing doesn't make it go away
 

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Gender dysphoria is a real phenomenon though. It's a neurological condition in which the person feels as if he or she is in the wrong body.
How you address it is debatable but pretending it's not a real thing doesn't make it go away
Thats true. How you deal with it in the most compassionate way is to get the sufferer proper psychological and medical help to reconcile them to their actual realist state. There are many neurobiological and psychological disorders. Helping them to reconcile themselves to reality is what we should be doing with all of them.
Sadly we are pretty terrible at helping those who suffer from mental illness and disorder.
 

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Likewise with every country that has Sharia law
We do not have sharia law. What we have is a libertarian elite class of rulers, the kind of which your Democrat government is the worst.

... you had a Muslim president for 8 years.
 

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We do not have sharia law. What we have is a libertarian elite class of rulers, the kind of which your Democrat government is the worst.

... you had a Muslim president for 8 years.
Yeah and he didn't try to pass any laws that favor Islam
Because you know... The Constitution
 

ZNP

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Yeah and he didn't try to pass any laws that favor Islam
Because you know... The Constitution
Sharia law in the United States of America ("America") has reached penetration phase 3 (see Spread of Islam).

As the number of court cases in which civil law and Sharia law clash rose across America, many American states introduced bills banning their state courts from accommodating Sharia law.

Many of those bills have been stalled by the Muslim Brotherhood, which accuses the bills' sponsors and supporters of Islamophobia, campaigns against their re-election, and sues in court. States that have managed to pass Sharia law-blocking legislation, known as "ALAC" (American Laws for American Courts), are listed on Islamization of America.

While fighting to a draw in many state legislatures, Sharia law has been advancing faster, in many cases unopposed, in other American institutions, as follows:

● An increasing number of America's public schools are commemorating Muslim holidays, serving Halal food, and holding Islamic prayers towards Mecca. In 2014, Rocky Mountain High School in Fort Collins, Colorado became the first American high school to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic, replacing "One nation under God," with "One nation under Allah" (see Allah Moon God).

● Bill Clinton was the first US president to hold a White House Eid al-Fitr dinner at the end of Ramadan, the Muslim month-long, dawn-to-dusk fast. Eid al-Fitr includes six Takbirs, the raising of hands and shouting, "Allahu Akbar!" to declare that Allah is "greater" (than the God of Christianity and the idols of other religions - see Jesus vs. Muhammad and Halal). Every US president since Clinton, including George W. Bush, held this blasphemous dinner for a total of 20 years (1996 to 2016) until Donald Trump scrapped it in 2017.

● In 2000, the Republican National Convention became the first US presidential convention to open with a Muslim prayer to Allah.

● In 2007, Quran for the first time was used to swear into office a new US Congressman, Keith Ellison (right). In 2017, this former spokesman for Nation of Islam became the second highest leader of the Democratic National Committee.

● In 2009, a Christian US soldier at Baghram Air Force Base in Afghanistan received Bibles in two local languages from his American church as planned. The US army confiscated those Bibles and instead of at least returning them to his church, burned those Bibles. When Terry Jones, a pastor in Florida, announced his plan to burn a copy of the Quran in 2010, General David Petraeus, the commander of the US military in Afghanistan, publicly objected to his plan, while US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton denounced his plan as "disgraceful" (see Bible vs. Quran and War against Islam).

● In the landmark 2010 pro-Sharia ruling on S.D. v. M.J.R., Judge Joseph Charles Jr. of New Jersey concluded that the Muslim ex-husband repeatedly had raped (see Taharrush) his Muslim ex-wife. After testimony from the Muslim man's imam, the judge denied the ex-wife's request for a permanent restraining order against her ex-husband, citing the Muslim man's "belief."

● To attract and manage Muslim wealth, an increasing number of American financial institutions quietly began taking steps to become Sharia-compliant. This includes donating a percentage of their annual profits to Islamic groups that are designated by their Sharia-compliance advisors, many of whom belong to the Muslim Brotherhood and funnel funds to Jihadi groups (the donations must go to one or more of eight recipient categories, one of which is Jihad), including Hamas and Hezbollah (see Hitler's Islam, how to Stop Islam).

● In 2016, candidates who openly identified themselves as Muslims and campaigned for national or statewide offices numbered about 10. In 2018, that number rose 1,000% to about 100 (source).

● In 2021, President Joe Biden nominated and the U.S. Senate confirmed Zahid Quraishi as the first Muslim U.S. District Judge, for the District of New Jersey.


https://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/america-sharia-law.html
 

Dude653

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Sharia law in the United States of America ("America") has reached penetration phase 3 (see Spread of Islam).

As the number of court cases in which civil law and Sharia law clash rose across America, many American states introduced bills banning their state courts from accommodating Sharia law.

Many of those bills have been stalled by the Muslim Brotherhood, which accuses the bills' sponsors and supporters of Islamophobia, campaigns against their re-election, and sues in court. States that have managed to pass Sharia law-blocking legislation, known as "ALAC" (American Laws for American Courts), are listed on Islamization of America.

While fighting to a draw in many state legislatures, Sharia law has been advancing faster, in many cases unopposed, in other American institutions, as follows:

● An increasing number of America's public schools are commemorating Muslim holidays, serving Halal food, and holding Islamic prayers towards Mecca. In 2014, Rocky Mountain High School in Fort Collins, Colorado became the first American high school to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in Arabic, replacing "One nation under God," with "One nation under Allah" (see Allah Moon God).

● Bill Clinton was the first US president to hold a White House Eid al-Fitr dinner at the end of Ramadan, the Muslim month-long, dawn-to-dusk fast. Eid al-Fitr includes six Takbirs, the raising of hands and shouting, "Allahu Akbar!" to declare that Allah is "greater" (than the God of Christianity and the idols of other religions - see Jesus vs. Muhammad and Halal). Every US president since Clinton, including George W. Bush, held this blasphemous dinner for a total of 20 years (1996 to 2016) until Donald Trump scrapped it in 2017.

● In 2000, the Republican National Convention became the first US presidential convention to open with a Muslim prayer to Allah.

● In 2007, Quran for the first time was used to swear into office a new US Congressman, Keith Ellison (right). In 2017, this former spokesman for Nation of Islam became the second highest leader of the Democratic National Committee.

● In 2009, a Christian US soldier at Baghram Air Force Base in Afghanistan received Bibles in two local languages from his American church as planned. The US army confiscated those Bibles and instead of at least returning them to his church, burned those Bibles. When Terry Jones, a pastor in Florida, announced his plan to burn a copy of the Quran in 2010, General David Petraeus, the commander of the US military in Afghanistan, publicly objected to his plan, while US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton denounced his plan as "disgraceful" (see Bible vs. Quran and War against Islam).

● In the landmark 2010 pro-Sharia ruling on S.D. v. M.J.R., Judge Joseph Charles Jr. of New Jersey concluded that the Muslim ex-husband repeatedly had raped (see Taharrush) his Muslim ex-wife. After testimony from the Muslim man's imam, the judge denied the ex-wife's request for a permanent restraining order against her ex-husband, citing the Muslim man's "belief."

● To attract and manage Muslim wealth, an increasing number of American financial institutions quietly began taking steps to become Sharia-compliant. This includes donating a percentage of their annual profits to Islamic groups that are designated by their Sharia-compliance advisors, many of whom belong to the Muslim Brotherhood and funnel funds to Jihadi groups (the donations must go to one or more of eight recipient categories, one of which is Jihad), including Hamas and Hezbollah (see Hitler's Islam, how to Stop Islam).

● In 2016, candidates who openly identified themselves as Muslims and campaigned for national or statewide offices numbered about 10. In 2018, that number rose 1,000% to about 100 (source).

● In 2021, President Joe Biden nominated and the U.S. Senate confirmed Zahid Quraishi as the first Muslim U.S. District Judge, for the District of New Jersey.

https://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/america-sharia-law.html
You can't stop Muslims from holding public office because again. The Constitution
Maybe the schools were just trying to be inclusive of their Muslim students as well.
Turns out, the entire world doesn't revolve around christianity.
Publicly burning a Quran is counterproductive and will just provoke more terrorist attacks
Politicians recognizing a Muslim holiday, doesn't logically follow that it will lead to Sharia law.
I believe that is referred to as the slippery slope fallacy
 

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You can't stop Muslims from holding public office because again. The Constitution
Maybe the schools were just trying to be inclusive of their Muslim students as well.
Turns out, the entire world doesn't revolve around christianity.
Publicly burning a Quran is counterproductive and will just provoke more terrorist attacks
Politicians recognizing a Muslim holiday, doesn't logically follow that it will lead to Sharia law.
I believe that is referred to as the slippery slope fallacy
You can't pass Sharia law unless the majority of people in the country are muslims because Sharia law makes non muslims second class citizens. This is why in Sudan which had a very solid Christian population in the south they terrorized, raped and pillaged them to get them to leave so they could pass Sharia law.

They would need to get millions of muslims pouring into this country while also terrorizing Christians to leave, (who knows maybe make crime skyrocket, empty the prisons, open the border, who knows). Even then you still have to kill off millions of Americans (how would you do that, unleash snakes into the whole country?)

So no one is claiming that they are trying to do this.
 

Dude653

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You can't pass Sharia law unless the majority of people in the country are muslims because Sharia law makes non muslims second class citizens. This is why in Sudan which had a very solid Christian population in the south they terrorized, raped and pillaged them to get them to leave so they could pass Sharia law.

They would need to get millions of muslims pouring into this country while also terrorizing Christians to leave, (who knows maybe make crime skyrocket, empty the prisons, open the border, who knows). Even then you still have to kill off millions of Americans (how would you do that, unleash snakes into the whole country?)

So no one is claiming that they are trying to do this.
Yeah that's happening in European countries but I don't think that would happen in america.
There would probably be a civil war first
 

ZNP

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Yeah that's happening in European countries but I don't think that would happen in america.
There would probably be a civil war first
Yeah, and what are the chances of that happening?
 

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The house of a tyrant is a ruin

Should I post this in a thread about Putin or a thread about Hunter Biden's laptop? Or how about a thread on the border crisis? Inflation? WWIII? The Midterm elections? Weaponization of the DOJ and FBI? Or should it be about the CCP and their real estate bubble?