Modern Prophets

Prophecy is listed within the Spiritual gifts, so what does the look like in a Biblical New Testament setting?

We recently had a Bob Hazlett come and speak to our church.

https://www.ascendministries.net/bob-hazlett

I know that demonic spirits can mimic some of the miracles of God like they did with Moses or Paul and the sorcerer. We are even told some will do great signs and wonders to possibly lead away the elect.

To test the prophet, their words must not contradict the Bible. They must have a proven track record. And ultimately, you will begin to see by their fruit.

According to my pastor, Hazlett had perfectly predicted certain specifics about them building a new church, and he hadn't mentioned that to this guy.

This guy also seemed to know that my aunt had been having family issues and predicted restoration. Her husband had an emotional affair months prior.

But much of his talk was vague and never once exposed sin, or predicted anything negative, it was all motivational, and even two people were going to get new cars. New land for the church, a new gym, a sound room to create music, and a school was proclaimed.

My greater instinct is this is a joke even though I don't know how he knew about my aunt in, less it is demonic mimicking the gift to steer people away. But yet everything He said isn't bad either it just seems to leave out the correction and reproof part.

I don't know. I started going to a charismatic church a year ago to study their interpretation and use of the gifts.

Oh a red flag to me is Hazlett has an Ascend Academy where if you pay $99 to $250 a month, you can learn how operate in the prophetic gift.

Also he has appeared on Bethal tv and done events related to Bethal and close friends to a prophet community.

I can't help but feel this to be false, so I ask how should a modern prophet operate? Should one have a whole ministry built on it?

I can't help but feel this to be false, so I ask how should a modern prophet operate?

Oh a red flag to me is Hazlett has an Ascend Academy where if you pay $99 to $250 a month, you can learn how operate in the prophetic gift.

Huge red flag.

"And as you go, preach, saying, ‘The kingdom of heaven is at hand.’ 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. Freely you have received, freely give."

No one, in the will of Christ, "sells" spiritual gifts.

"When Simon saw that the Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles’ hands, he offered them money. “Give me this power as well,” he said, “so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”
But Peter replied, “May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money!"

Didn't the Lord close out the Bible with the last verses of Revelation or was Mary Baker Eddy, Joseph Smith, and dozens of "thus sayeth the Lord" TV prophets correct?

The OP has a legitimate question.
I think this one above needs answered as well.

Prophecy is listed within the Spiritual gifts, so what does the look like in a Biblical New Testament setting?

We recently had a Bob Hazlett come and speak to our church.

https://www.ascendministries.net/bob-hazlett

I know that demonic spirits can mimic some of the miracles of God like they did with Moses or Paul and the sorcerer. We are even told some will do great signs and wonders to possibly lead away the elect.

To test the prophet, their words must not contradict the Bible. They must have a proven track record. And ultimately, you will begin to see by their fruit.

According to my pastor, Hazlett had perfectly predicted certain specifics about them building a new church, and he hadn't mentioned that to this guy.

This guy also seemed to know that my aunt had been having family issues and predicted restoration. Her husband had an emotional affair months prior.

But much of his talk was vague and never once exposed sin, or predicted anything negative, it was all motivational, and even two people were going to get new cars. New land for the church, a new gym, a sound room to create music, and a school was proclaimed.

My greater instinct is this is a joke even though I don't know how he knew about my aunt in, less it is demonic mimicking the gift to steer people away. But yet everything He said isn't bad either it just seems to leave out the correction and reproof part.

I don't know. I started going to a charismatic church a year ago to study their interpretation and use of the gifts.

Oh a red flag to me is Hazlett has an Ascend Academy where if you pay $99 to $250 a month, you can learn how operate in the prophetic gift.

Also he has appeared on Bethal tv and done events related to Bethal and close friends to a prophet community.

I can't help but feel this to be false, so I ask how should a modern prophet operate? Should one have a whole ministry built on it?

Those prophets are more open in their falsehood than the charismatic types.

For instance they do not add to the scriptures but only encourage the people of the church based on this scripture.

1 Corinthians 14:5 (ESV)
5 Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.

So they do not look to the OT prophets to determine NT operation.

The money part was a red flag to me because that’s abnormal. He might actually be a prophet, as evidenced by some of the things he said, but that doesn’t mean he’s infallible. Prophets can commit sin and still retain their gift. Think of David, Jonah, and Noah for example.

Prophets can hear from demonic spirits, too. In my opinion, it’s unlikely demons are doing miracles on his behalf unless he’s serving them in some way. They seem to require a sacrifice, an offering, or worship of some kind, kinda like how the devil asked Jesus to worship him.

Would like to know more about his ministry just out of curiosity.

True.
I mixed the obvious false prophets in to step back and look at the basic principles.
Recently there were some news programs on the net by charismatics that sounded just as ridiculous when they featured some guy I never heard of. It was as if I was listening to someone just make stuff up off the top of his head. When early church prophecy occured and Paul spoke of those gifts in I Corinthians chapter 12, he continued in context into chapter 13

"Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away."

The debate between charismatics and others is what is the "perfect" referring to. If it's the Bible as we see the word perfect also means complete, depending on context, then there's a problem with the tongues/ languages as well as extra Biblical revelation. That's a BIG issue considering what Revelation concludes with. They say the "perfect" is referring to a Who, which would be Jesus second coming in their interpretation. I'm not of that point of view. I believe that there were many more public miracles and foreign languages in Acts to get the gospel out to many nations as well as to establish that the the New Testament preachers were legit. The completion of the Bible had not occured or been published to the churches, so there was a special need then. I still experience miracles and know they are Biblical, but I point to what is written in the Bible rather than getting anything new from the Lord.

I consider the speaker when considering the source of anything claiming to be extra biblical. I heard a "fundamental" baptist preacher claim to go into a trance while preaching from Revelation. He said that his spirit was transported to heaven. It was bogus as was his false gospel, so I'm not picking on charismatics. I just have yet to find a legit prophet who is coming up with new prophesies yet. That includes the latest one I wasted time listening to last month.

Is the NT prophet only for encouragement and no longer to acknowledge sin in the church?

...The need today is for evangelists, pastors, and teachers.

I agree. I really don't understand if we have everything we need in the Bible then why the extra info? To make us more successful? Prosperous?

Is the NT prophet only for encouragement and no longer to acknowledge sin in the church?