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What I was attempting to tell you in a roundabout way is that as we grow in intimacy with God He will communicate more and more of Himself to us. We will more and more retain Him in our thoughts and more and more communicate with Him and He with us.
The reason He doesn't just give us a list of do's and don'ts is because we would walk by sight and not by faith. This way we are forced to walk by faith; thus, pleasing Him. We have no choice but to live in dependence upon Him.
That's clear. So when we sin we need to confess it to God. What if someone forgets to confess a sin?
 

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That's clear. So when we sin we need to confess it to God. What if someone forgets to confess a sin?
We will never confess all our sins because we aren't even aware of them all. But the Lord's prayer does reveal that we should confess our sins at least daily. And we should deliberately set aside time to regularly confess our sins.
But don't worry about unconfessed sin that you aren't aware of. Do worry about unconfessed sin that the Holy Spirit has made you aware of because this is rebellion and reflects that you either haven't accepted that God has indeed forgiven your sins, or, worse, you are indifferent to your offense against God.
 
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We will never confess all our sins because we aren't even aware of them all. But the Lord's prayer does reveal that we should confess our sins at least daily. And we should deliberately set aside time to regularly confess our sins.
But don't worry about unconfessed sin that you aren't aware of. Do worry about unconfessed sin that the Holy Spirit has made you aware of because this is rebellion and reflects that you either haven't accepted that God has indeed forgiven your sins, or, worse, you are indifferent to your offense against God.
I’m just asking for discussion’s sake. If I sin I care about it and confess it.

But the reason I ask is that confession of sin to God is a requirement. If a general confession of unspecified sins is enough, that’s great, but if that’s the case then just confessing to all of the sins one may ever commit in their entire life, in a single prayer, should be enough? Just following the line of reason here. The Bible is a bit gray on that particular scenario of confession. I prefer to just do it as I go and I try to get specific.
 

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I’m just asking for discussion’s sake. If I sin I care about it and confess it.

But the reason I ask is that confession of sin to God is a requirement. If a general confession of unspecified sins is enough, that’s great, but if that’s the case then just confessing to all of the sins one may ever commit in their entire life, in a single prayer, should be enough? Just following the line of reason here. The Bible is a bit gray on that particular scenario of confession. I prefer to just do it as I go and I try to get specific.
I think it's clear from the Lord's prayer we should confess daily. And there are a number of reasons why this is beneficial.
1. It humbles us before God.
2. It serves to restore broken fellowship
3. It puts us in the proper frame to be taught
4. It recognizes God as both holy and sovereign
5. It increases of intimacy and affection towards God
 

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Paul said it best:

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Isn't God's grace sufficient?

The flesh profits nothing.

We spend too much time disqualifying ourselves of God's love, peace and entering into His rest, that was freely given when we first began our walk, His way is our escape, it's not what we do for ourselves but what we partake in for Him. Paul counted all his works as dung, that he may win Christ Jesus. Notice that Paul was blameless in the law, and that he also says he was chief of sinners. (another discussion). At any rate...

We've been given the Gospel of Jesus Christ and are forgiven and given an advocate with instructions to find Him. The more we do for Him the closer we draw ourselves to Him. I mean, don't get me wrong, we will always have our sufferings, but knowing the fellowship of His sufferings walks us into His light and out of our own darkness to stand in those things we were seemingly powerless to stand in before without His light that we disqualified ourselves in receiving when it was always in our grasp to begin with. (ref. Philippians 3:8,10,13, 4:11-13, 2Cor. 12:9,10). If that makes sense to anyone, Praise God!

It's all about Jesus \0/
 

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I’m just asking for discussion’s sake. If I sin I care about it and confess it.

But the reason I ask is that confession of sin to God is a requirement. If a general confession of unspecified sins is enough, that’s great, but if that’s the case then just confessing to all of the sins one may ever commit in their entire life, in a single prayer, should be enough? Just following the line of reason here. The Bible is a bit gray on that particular scenario of confession. I prefer to just do it as I go and I try to get specific.
I looked at the Hebrew morphology, that is found next to the Lexicon tab, in Daniel 9:20While I was speaking, praying, confessing my sin and that of my people Israel, and presenting my petition before the LORD my God concerning His holy mountain—
and the Greek morphology in 1John 1:9If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
the Greek in 1John1 shows "sins" as N-AFP, Noun-AccusativeFemininePlural showing its plural form is reflective of "our," while the Hebrew in Dan9 shows "sin" as N-fsc | 1cs, and hovering over that shows Noun - feminine singular construct :: first person common singular followed by a conjunctive waw (that is read "and") connecting the sins of my people as also first person common singular.

So, it seems to me that, although not in any sort of one and done regard, it is a general missing of the mark that should be acknowledged.
 

Mem

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Paul said it best:

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Isn't God's grace sufficient?

The flesh profits nothing.

We spend too much time disqualifying ourselves of God's love, peace and entering into His rest, that was freely given when we first began our walk, His way is our escape, it's not what we do for ourselves but what we partake in for Him. Paul counted all his works as dung, that he may win Christ Jesus. Notice that Paul was blameless in the law, and that he also says he was chief of sinners. (another discussion). At any rate...

We've been given the Gospel of Jesus Christ and are forgiven and given an advocate with instructions to find Him. The more we do for Him the closer we draw ourselves to Him. I mean, don't get me wrong, we will always have our sufferings, but knowing the fellowship of His sufferings walks us into His light and out of our own darkness to stand in those things we were seemingly powerless to stand in before without His light that we disqualified ourselves in receiving when it was always in our grasp to begin with. (ref. Philippians 3:8,10,13, 4:11-13, 2Cor. 12:9,10). If that makes sense to anyone, Praise God!

It's all about Jesus \0/
We spend far too much time "reminding" God? or ourselves? how totally unlovable we are when time would be so much better spent remembering how precious we are in His sight, evidenced by the preciousness of the price He offered for us! :confused:
 

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We spend far too much time "reminding" God? or ourselves? how totally unlovable we are when time would be so much better spent remembering how precious we are in His sight, evidenced by the preciousness of the price He offered for us! :confused:
Our Strength! Amen!

as far as your question you asked:
We spend far too much time "reminding" God? or ourselves?
Pardon me, I reread my post you quoted several times, don't see anywhere I implied in reminding God of anything, I had hoped I was implying that God had already given us all things by His Son. However, my apologies, I'm not even skilled enough to find my mistake much less in writing what I'm trying to share. maybe I should've just posted Hebrews 9:14 and Philippians 4:8 :unsure::confused:
 

Mem

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Our Strength! Amen!

as far as your question you asked:


Pardon me, I reread my post you quoted several times, don't see anywhere I implied in reminding God of anything, I had hoped I was implying that God had already given us all things by His Son. However, my apologies, I'm not even skilled enough to find my mistake much less in writing what I'm trying to share. maybe I should've just posted Hebrews 9:14 and Philippians 4:8 :unsure::confused:
No need to apologize! You made no mistake. I added a general observation, that I considered relevant to your thought "we spend too much time disqualifying ourselves..." with my own synopsis of your post. It was a drawn-out Amen! :D
 

Mofastus

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Praise God! :D got a (y), there's hope for me still, thought it was a goner for sure
 

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No need to apologize! You made no mistake. I added a general observation, that I considered relevant to your thought "we spend too much time disqualifying ourselves..." with my own synopsis of your post. It was a drawn-out Amen! :D
ok ty ma'am:p, but I got to post all this now too, it really does say a lot...

Job 33:13 Why dost thou strive against him? for he giveth not account of any of his matters.

Job 33:14 For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not.

Job 33:15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed;

Job 33:16 Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction,

Job 33:17 That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man.

Job 33:18 He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword.

Job 33:19 He is chastened also with pain upon his bed, and the multitude of his bones with strong pain:

Job 33:20 So that his life abhorreth bread, and his soul dainty meat.

Job 33:21 His flesh is consumed away, that it cannot be seen; and his bones that were not seen stick out.

Job 33:22 Yea, his soul draweth near unto the grave, and his life to the destroyers.

Job 33:23 If there be a messenger with him, an interpreter, one among a thousand, to shew unto man his uprightness:

Job 33:24 Then he is gracious unto him, and saith, Deliver him from going down to the pit: I have found a ransom.

Job 33:25 His flesh shall be fresher than a child's: he shall return to the days of his youth:

Job 33:26 He shall pray unto God, and he will be favourable unto him: and he shall see his face with joy: for he will render unto man his righteousness.

Job 33:27 He looketh upon men, and if any say, I have sinned, and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not;

Job 33:28 He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light.


Most amazing indeed! :giggle:
 
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Also, what do you believe happens if we sinned and forgot to confess it to God? It's always an interesting question to see what people come up with because it challenges people to think if sin forgiveness is dependent on confession or is it continuously provided via God's grace accessed by faith?
in almost every prayer when i seek forgiveness i do as David did and ask for forgiveness of the things i am not even aware of. then ask for God to make me aware so i can specifically ask for forgiveness.

i think if we are faithful to seek forgiveness that in certain times we forget that God is faithful to know we would have asked if we remembered.
 
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I truly appreciate the sentiments you have shared. I believe every true believer is brought to this place of brokenness to humble us but also that we might see in more vivid detail all that Jesus did for us at the cross. Understanding just how many sins He paid for us causes our affections for Him to deepen...those who are forgiven much, love much.
You might well be blessed also at the incredible love expressed by God to His people in Isaiah 49. Having prophesied their redemption they still believe the Lord has forsaken them. But, rather than chastening them, He gently reasons with them how He has demonstrated His great love for them(v14-26).
I guess what I most enjoyed in your post was sense of awe towards God. May He ever be more and more amazing to you.
thank You and God Bless You!
 
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in almost every prayer when i seek forgiveness i do as David did and ask for forgiveness of the things i am not even aware of. then ask for God to make me aware so i can specifically ask for forgiveness.

i think if we are faithful to seek forgiveness that in certain times we forget that God is faithful to know we would have asked if we remembered.
I’ve found that God is quite fond of sincere selfless honesty. No pretenses, no self-righteousness, not trying to make oneself seem better than they really are. Really put it out there and discuss the deepest motives of the heart that only God and that person can see. That’s why I try to be specific.