Leftist virtue signaling on “political violence”

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Nehemiah6

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The Demoncrats love to virtue signal as though they really care about anyone, and as though they have any morality within themselves. The most recent virtue signaling is about “political violence”.

Well guess who started and encouraged political violence over the last decade? And who has kept up the rhetoric which has led to political violence? It is the Leftists/Communist/Marxist/Leninist/Fascist/Anarchist Democratic party of the USA. Which has been allowed o call itself the Democratic party even though it is against freedom and democracy.

Any society has only two options in order to function and survive: (1) the rule of law or (2) lawlessness and anarchy. Since one of the tenets of Marxism/Leninism is the use of violence and anarchy to shut down dissidents, the Democrats have used this strategy to undermine the Constitution and the rule of law, and destroy the country.

There was a time when the law enforcement and justice systems were actually serious and sincere about making sure that criminals and thugs would not be allowed free rein on the streets and in the cities. There was a time when political parties would present their agendas without attacking their opponents physically. There was a time when the main political parties did not deliberately try to destroy the country, destroy freedom of speech, and all other rights and freedoms guaranteed under the Constitution.

All that changed when Communist Barack Obama was allowed to become the president of the United States. Not once but twice. He made sure that he would use the race card to foster and encourage racial tensions in America. That eventually led to the vandalism and violence that caused the toppling of statues and memorials, the destruction of properties, lives, and cities by BLM and Antifa, and the release of hardened criminals onto the streets of America, to go on repeating the same crimes for which they were arrested. This encouraged illegal migrants to also engage in murder, rape, pillaging, and "smash and grab" against high end stores.

The bogus COVID pandemic. and the lethal and toxic vaccines and vaccine mandates destroyed children, individuals, businesses, economies, and societies overnight, when there was absolutely no science behind the lockdowns, masking, distancing, and vaccinations. At the same time cheap and effective drugs against coronavirus, such as hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin were sabotaged, suppressed, attacked, and slandered. Doctors, nurses, and frontline workers were fired for refusing the jab or speaking out against it.

This was a major form of political violence in which governments, public heath agencies, and the media all participated. Mass murders and mass vaccine injuries for absolutely no reason were in fact political violence against the general public. Yet there has not been a single arrest, prosecution, incarceration, or execution. Nuremberg 2.0 never took place, and people like Anthony Fauci and his associates were never executed.

But when there was massive election fraud in 2020, and the rightful president Donald Trump was replaced by the illegitimate imposter Joseph Biden, then the Constitution and the rule of law were finally crushed underfoot. Peaceful protesters and protective parents were called “domestic terrorists”, while terrorists and criminals were rewarded and praised. The entire justice system was perverted and the courts began to favor criminals over victims, while the Department of Justice and the FBI became criminal organizations just like the mafia, and disregarded the laws of the land. The southern border was handed over to the Mexican drug cartels and coyotes, and human trafficking and hard drug trafficking became legal and “normal”. Fentanyl (which is a killer drug) poured into the USA (along with other hard illegal drugs) and caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands. But there was no major attempt to stop all this crime and lawlessness.

As a result law-abiding citizens, conservatives, Christians and Republicans were targeting for SWAT raids and the gulag in DC. The homes of well-known Republicans were raided by the FBI on a mere pretext. Innocent protesters were locked up and given lengthy prison terms. America became a police state overnight, and Big Tech, Mainstream Media, and the Department of Homeland Security jointly perpetrated a campaign of spying and censorship in order to shut down dissent. This too was political violence.


So what else should one expect other than an increase in political violence? It is actually surprising that none of the evildoers has been assassinated by a sniper’s bullet. Yet there were assassination threats against Trump. Justice Scalia was assassinated, and Representative Scalise escaped by the skin of his teeth. In fact all the conservative Supreme Court judges have been targeted for assassination because of the demise of Roe v Wade, and ever since Charles "Chuck" Schumer threatened them publicly. “I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price... “You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.” ”
 

Gojira

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#2
The Demoncrats love to virtue signal as though they really care about anyone, and as though they have any morality within themselves. The most recent virtue signaling is about “political violence”.

Well guess who started and encouraged political violence over the last decade? And who has kept up the rhetoric which has led to political violence? It is the Leftists/Communist/Marxist/Leninist/Fascist/Anarchist Democratic party of the USA. Which has been allowed o call itself the Democratic party even though it is against freedom and democracy.

Any society has only two options in order to function and survive: (1) the rule of law or (2) lawlessness and anarchy. Since one of the tenets of Marxism/Leninism is the use of violence and anarchy to shut down dissidents, the Democrats have used this strategy to undermine the Constitution and the rule of law, and destroy the country.

There was a time when the law enforcement and justice systems were actually serious and sincere about making sure that criminals and thugs would not be allowed free rein on the streets and in the cities. There was a time when political parties would present their agendas without attacking their opponents physically. There was a time when the main political parties did not deliberately try to destroy the country, destroy freedom of speech, and all other rights and freedoms guaranteed under the Constitution.

All that changed when Communist Barack Obama was allowed to become the president of the United States. Not once but twice. He made sure that he would use the race card to foster and encourage racial tensions in America. That eventually led to the vandalism and violence that caused the toppling of statues and memorials, the destruction of properties, lives, and cities by BLM and Antifa, and the release of hardened criminals onto the streets of America, to go on repeating the same crimes for which they were arrested. This encouraged illegal migrants to also engage in murder, rape, pillaging, and "smash and grab" against high end stores.

The bogus COVID pandemic. and the lethal and toxic vaccines and vaccine mandates destroyed children, individuals, businesses, economies, and societies overnight, when there was absolutely no science behind the lockdowns, masking, distancing, and vaccinations. At the same time cheap and effective drugs against coronavirus, such as hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin were sabotaged, suppressed, attacked, and slandered. Doctors, nurses, and frontline workers were fired for refusing the jab or speaking out against it.

This was a major form of political violence in which governments, public heath agencies, and the media all participated. Mass murders and mass vaccine injuries for absolutely no reason were in fact political violence against the general public. Yet there has not been a single arrest, prosecution, incarceration, or execution. Nuremberg 2.0 never took place, and people like Anthony Fauci and his associates were never executed.

But when there was massive election fraud in 2020, and the rightful president Donald Trump was replaced by the illegitimate imposter Joseph Biden, then the Constitution and the rule of law were finally crushed underfoot. Peaceful protesters and protective parents were called “domestic terrorists”, while terrorists and criminals were rewarded and praised. The entire justice system was perverted and the courts began to favor criminals over victims, while the Department of Justice and the FBI became criminal organizations just like the mafia, and disregarded the laws of the land. The southern border was handed over to the Mexican drug cartels and coyotes, and human trafficking and hard drug trafficking became legal and “normal”. Fentanyl (which is a killer drug) poured into the USA (along with other hard illegal drugs) and caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands. But there was no major attempt to stop all this crime and lawlessness.

As a result law-abiding citizens, conservatives, Christians and Republicans were targeting for SWAT raids and the gulag in DC. The homes of well-known Republicans were raided by the FBI on a mere pretext. Innocent protesters were locked up and given lengthy prison terms. America became a police state overnight, and Big Tech, Mainstream Media, and the Department of Homeland Security jointly perpetrated a campaign of spying and censorship in order to shut down dissent. This too was political violence.

So what else should one expect other than an increase in political violence? It is actually surprising that none of the evildoers has been assassinated by a sniper’s bullet. Yet there were assassination threats against Trump. Justice Scalia was assassinated, and Representative Scalise escaped by the skin of his teeth. In fact all the conservative Supreme Court judges have been targeted for assassination because of the demise of Roe v Wade, and ever since Charles "Chuck" Schumer threatened them publicly. “I want to tell you, Gorsuch. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind, and you will pay the price... “You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.” ”
We do not know that Scalia was assassinated. But...

This is soooo reminiscent of the fascist and communist movements of the 1930s. The same tactics are being employed today. And, you still have people eating the trash that falls from their tables, because they're told that that trash is actually a blessing of healthy food.

They condemn free speech as white supremacist, then call us fascist. They try to break apart the family and make the State the parent, and they call us the fascists. They call their political opposition terrorists, then claim that Trump was hateful and divisive. They call violence peace and peace violence. Dissent is patriotic, until someone else does it. They try to pervert and destroy our children -- that is, if they let them survive the womb.

Progressivism is to progress what the angel of light is to light.
 

Dude653

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I was with you until you said covid it isn't real.
I have friends who died from it and they're really dead
 

Gojira

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I was with you until you said covid it isn't real.
I have friends who died from it and they're really dead
Oh? Where did I say covid wasn't real? Please quote me.
 

ZNP

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I hope this is the right thread to ask this, but I couldn't find democracy on my ballot? Does this mean something is wrong with my ballot? Has anyone else had this problem?
 

Dude653

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Just spitballing here but what if we had a slot on the ballot for none of the above and if none of the above wins, you scrap the whole thing and start over
 

ZNP

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This is a true question, not a joke.

I was asked by a woman who has a master's degree if she is allowed to vote for a Republican if she is a registered Democrat.

I assure you this was not a joke.
 

Billyd

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Just spitballing here but what if we had a slot on the ballot for none of the above and if none of the above wins, you scrap the whole thing and start over
I'm sure someone would change his name to "None of the Above".
 

Gojira

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You said covid it is a hoax
Really. Where? Show me. Oh, what's that? You can't?

This is one of your problems Mr Dude, you interpret what you read with preconceived notions. I said no such thing, nor did I imply it.... anywhere.

I said that Leftists create and exploit existing crises. I never labeled covid a hoax. I do believe it was exploited, but that's a huge leap to calling it a hoax.

You try to come across as Mr. Enlightened, but in a debate forum you'd get creamed for such an error.
 

Dude653

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Really. Where? Show me. Oh, what's that? You can't?

This is one of your problems Mr Dude, you interpret what you read with preconceived notions. I said no such thing, nor did I imply it.... anywhere.

I said that Leftists create and exploit existing crises. I never labeled covid a hoax. I do believe it was exploited, but that's a huge leap to calling it a hoax.

You try to come across as Mr. Enlightened, but in a debate forum you'd get creamed for such an error.
It infected the entire planet within 3 months. That's not something to take lately
 

ZNP

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It infected the entire planet within 3 months. That's not something to take lately
What post are you talking about? No one in this thread has used the words "months" or "infected" or "planet" except you.
 

Dude653

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What post are you talking about? No one in this thread has used the words "months" or "infected" or "planet" except you.
I was referring to the "pandemic hoax" comment made by the original poster.
Anything that affects the entire planet in 3 months is not something I would call a hoax
 

Dude653

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What post are you talking about? No one in this thread has used the words "months" or "infected" or "planet" except you.
Yeah I was making that argument. Trying to keep up
 

ZNP

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I was referring to the "pandemic hoax" comment made by the original poster.
Anything that affects the entire planet in 3 months is not something I would call a hoax
So you weren't even responding to Gojira's post? Do you do this intentionally? You change words and don't so much as hit reply to the post causing confusion?

Nehemiah never said the pandemic was a hoax. That is your twisting of what he said.

What he did say was "bogus covid pandemic". You have interpreted that covid is the hoax, I have interpreted "pandemic" as the hoax, not Covid. In other words, a disease slightly worse than a bad flu was turned into a worldwide shutdown.

So instead of asking him to clarify what he meant you just jump off the deep end accusing him of the ugliest possible interpretation?
 

ZNP

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Yeah I was making that argument. Trying to keep up
Your arguments are bogus, vague, and seemingly intentionally confusing. Everyday your credibility drops lower and lower. Gojira didn't understand, I didn't understand and Nehemiah obviously didn't understand this was directed at him. No one else is even in this discussion, so you telling me to try and keep up is simply sad.
 

Dude653

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Your arguments are bogus, vague, and seemingly intentionally confusing. Everyday your credibility drops lower and lower. Gojira didn't understand, I didn't understand and Nehemiah obviously didn't understand this was directed at him. No one else is even in this discussion, so you telling me to try and keep up is simply sad.
Okay let's try this again he said pandemic hoax
Anything that infects the entire planet in 3 months is by no stretch of the imagination of hoax
 

ZNP

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Okay let's try this again he said pandemic hoax
Anything that infects the entire planet in 3 months is by no stretch of the imagination of hoax
The flu infects the whole globe, it isn't just in the US or in China. The question is not whether or not it infected the whole globe but was it necessary to shut everything down? I was in NYC, they had hospitals that appeared to be overwhelmed (though there is some valid questions about that). But if you had a hospital or a city that was overwhelmed, I get it, shut down for 3 months to give you a chance to be able to keep up. But there were other places where they were not overwhelmed. There is no scientific basis to shut down a place that is not overwhelmed. It is healthier for people to continue to work and be active. It is healthier for kids to go to school. Now if the Mayor wanted to take certain precautions, that would make sense. Sneeze guards at grocery store, fine. Encourage people to order via the internet, OK. Strongly require all businesses to pay sick days if someone has a fever or symptoms. That is much better than a mandatory shutdown. Thermometers are much cheaper than shutting down, make people take their temperature at the front door and if they have a fever they aren't allowed in.

If you did that 95% of the world would have remained open. Taiwan did this. They have more direct contact with China than any other country on a per capita basis. They had one of the lowest infection rates worldwide and they didn't have a shutdown.
 

NotmebutHim

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The SARS CoV-2 virus is NOT a hoax, but the response to it is and has been one of the most glaring examples of state terrorism I have ever seen.
 

Dude653

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The flu infects the whole globe, it isn't just in the US or in China. The question is not whether or not it infected the whole globe but was it necessary to shut everything down? I was in NYC, they had hospitals that appeared to be overwhelmed (though there is some valid questions about that). But if you had a hospital or a city that was overwhelmed, I get it, shut down for 3 months to give you a chance to be able to keep up. But there were other places where they were not overwhelmed. There is no scientific basis to shut down a place that is not overwhelmed. It is healthier for people to continue to work and be active. It is healthier for kids to go to school. Now if the Mayor wanted to take certain precautions, that would make sense. Sneeze guards at grocery store, fine. Encourage people to order via the internet, OK. Strongly require all businesses to pay sick days if someone has a fever or symptoms. That is much better than a mandatory shutdown. Thermometers are much cheaper than shutting down, make people take their temperature at the front door and if they have a fever they aren't allowed in.

If you did that 95% of the world would have remained open. Taiwan did this. They have more direct contact with China than any other country on a per capita basis. They had one of the lowest infection rates worldwide and they didn't have a shutdown.
Yes in the early stages of the pandemic hospitals were overrun and didn't even have beds or respirators to treat the influx of covid patients
So I've heard three different arguments on this forum.
Punishment for sin. A biological weapon
A hoax.
Law of non-contrection. It can't be all three.