Senate passes same-sex marriage bill with bipartisan support

Is it always someone else's fault?

Isn't sin inborn ever since Adam?

Still great legal defense, suppose you have the "murder" gene. Don't sociopaths and psychopaths have a distinct genetic makeup?

Is stealing genetically linked?

And therefore would not discriminating against such be bigotry?

I'll say again fertility is only one reason. Why? What happens to a society with already low birth rates if they diver further into sexual freedom?

According the sociology of human history. They deteriorate and fade out.

They say some of the risks are stigma and discrimination. But if you even look through the health risks for 1 minute, I know I wouldn't wish that on my neighbor.

Stigma- An association of disgrace or public disapproval with something, such as an action or condition.

Yeap, stigma is legitimate. I disapprove of sin. Love the sinner.

Discrimination refers to the treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit.

I work with a Lesbian and never one discriminated against her. Now if she walked into my church and wanted a job or to be a pastor then yes I will by definition discriminate based on the group she belongs to. Why? Because she is actively engaged in sin. It would be the same for anyone active in sexual immorality.

(because they have less to fear about being honest not because there are more of them.)

Right..... Lol or maybe peer pressure, Hollywood appeal, media appeal, music appeal, liberal arts appeal, sexual appetite appeal, being congratulated and cheered, being treated as special in society (gay pride month) and wanting a place to belong or fit in.



(according to the National Bullying Prevention Center the rate LGBT youth experience bullying varies widely from region to region. in the most conservative areas LGBT students who are out or outed on average experience 3 -4 physical assaults per per week while in school. On average they receive 45 verbal attacks per week while in school. on average they receive 7 death threats during their high school career. HO\ow many times did you get a death threat in high school?)

I had one death threat. Some jerks also. It's high school. Kids are jerks. Bullying isn't right but it doesn't help when society lets kids be mentally ill. If your a dude wearing a dress then your inviting ridicule. Some reducule is good though when it doesn't cross over into abuse. Boys need to know there are things that boys do not do. If my teen boy is trying to wear girl pants (he has tried) I told him no, those are girl pants and your a young man. So we threw them away.

Sin is but not as some suggest that they are hardwired to be gay. Or God made them gay. God made them as God intended but what happens in their youth, demonic, or environmental factors that contribute they must know that just like lust for a man and pornography there are thoughts and feelings we should not act on.

Well, they have searched for differences in the brains of murderers. They have found a resemblance but this same resemblance not everyone became a murderer. So I wouldn't count them as animals just acting on instinct. They still made a choice even a sociopath knows but may not feel.

I don't know about stealing. I'm just a layman who reads a lot.

This is what the secularist does not understand. Forcing us to celebrate with a sinner their sinfulness causes us to violate our faith. Yet, as long as we're permitted to pray, that means our religious freedom has not been violated, all according to the radical secularist. This shows how little they understand the constitution, individual liberty, tolerance, and how little respect they have for religious freedom, despite their claims to the contrary.

Yeap, as to why going way back to the OP this bill is a landmine for Christians who stigma sin and discriminate to protect their flock or religious organizations.

We have to remember this isn't ones race, sex, class, or age that we are speaking on. We are talking about mental illness and another sexual revolution like the 70s and 80s but now it has progressed.

Not true. There is plenty of evidence that environment and nurture play a roll and perhaps even a major roll.

At this point even though we have mapped the human genome no one has come up with the "gay gene" whereas we have found the genes for many traits that truly are genetic.

Also in the last few years we have conducted a nationwide experiment on our kids and have demonstrated how incredibly effective education and grooming can be for kids at an impressionable age.

I believe this is in part because the Church has weakened and compromised. We need another great awakening and we need it now.

I will say this: If this develops into an era of persecution, it may be the thing that stimulates that next great awakening.

here is the quote from YOUR post: " the risk children would identify recognizably homosexual adults as the potential abuser, are from 0% to 3.1%." 0.3% is based on the actual numbers the study itself presents and as you can see the study didn't say 3.1% it said from 0% to 3.1%. which includes 0.3%. deal with it

[ i was responding to the claim "That's why abortion clinics are in the poorest section of every city, "
which as shown is incorrect.

first no one said there was a homosexual gene. No one believes that a single gene could be responsible for such complex and nuanced behavior.
As anyone who would claim to be an expert on the subject should know there has been a tremendous amount of research showing homosexuality is tied to the genes that make women more fertile
F. Iemmola et al New evidence of genetic factors influencing sexual orientation in men: female fecundity increase in the maternal line
R. Collins et al Maternal inheritance and familial fecundity factors in male homosexuality
A Camperio-Ciani Evidence for maternally inherited factors favouring male homosexuality and promoting female fecundity
and dozens more studies.

Amazing... to the Left, sexual orientation is immutable, but gender is fluid

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You made the claim that all the evidence, you emphasized that it was all the evidence. That is simply not true. It is easy to prove that some people became homosexuals because of nurture and/or the environment and it had nothing to do with predisposition or orientation at birth.

"you are just too stupid to understand"

None of your "fact check" address the point that was made. More black babies were aborted in NYC in 2017 than were born in NYC in 2017

And, because this is a Leftist phenomenon, it's not even remotely racist. So get that nasty thought out of yer purdy little head ZNP!

which you refuse to apply to everyone...special pleading

what health risks?

you mean the condition they were born with.



and denial of marriage rights that you are championing is discrimination

i wonder if she would agree