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“And she named the child Ichabod, saying, ‘The glory has departed from Israel!’ because the ark of God had been captured and because of her father-in-law and her husband. And she said, ‘The glory has departed from Israel, for the ark of God has been captured.’”

The glory of God is used to describe God’s favor and blessings toward His people. In the Old Testament, God’s glory is seen as a pillar of fire and cloud that followed the Israelites during the exodus from Egypt, guiding and guarding them. Once the Ark of the Covenant was built and placed in the tabernacle in the wilderness and later in the temple in Jerusalem, God’s glory resided there as a symbol of His presence among His people. When the Philistines captured the Ark, the glory departed from the Israelites—Ichabod became a reality.

The United States, like the nation of Isreal in the Old Testament, points to " The temple of the Lord." As American says, " in God we trust."

But as Jeremiah Prophesied the coming Judgement and the people's taken into captivity by Foreign invaders, I see a very strong case for this to happen to the United States. As Isreal, many think this can't happen to the United State, really? I guess the lord owes Isreal an apology.

The United States and the "Church " have thumbed their finger in the eye of God and have done that which Jesu said in Revelation I HATE


Rev 2:14-15

14 But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality. 15 Thus you also have those who hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. 16 Repent, or else I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.

Balaam?
Nicolaitans?


The Lord is saying The church is teaching the people to commit sexual sin. Perversion and adultery literally and Idolatry.

The church stood by LGBTQ, and the gay agenda laid a foundation in the 1980s with laws passed to allow them to work and not be fired because of sexual orientation. The APA called it a lifestyle. Many of us ministers said now they will come for marriage. Church leadership then said oh no, I will not stand for it. Many of Our Reformed church Leaders all too willingly DID. God will overlook this because we have " in God we trust." on our money? Hahahaha Fools! The nation is held in the balance and found wanting. Wed is on the verge of our nation being given to another.

40% of Americans say they would not fight to defend the United States if invaded. Our Military is losing people who go to the Command and say they want out because of Stress, yet we have leadership in the military who look like this.

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WE pass laws to have sex with children and kill them in the womb 61 million. God loves America ? Did He not Love Israel?



China is buying land all over the United States, CCP is in our land. FYI Bablyona lived outside the gates of Isreal Before they took it over. The enemy was at the gates and they still did not Hear the word of The Lord. The people of God have used, and some are using, Spiritual foolishness to weaken the people and many are of my Pentecostal fellowship and even those who are of the sound doctrine of the baptist. Roman chapter one is yelling at us.

Romans 1:18-32

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.

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Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

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For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, [n]maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.


Pastors are teaching people to sin! This nation can and will fall before the great tribulation for no other reason than the sin that has come up to the Throne of God and has offended him. Our youth seek the devil for worldly gain, and selling their souls to the devil is a new fetish. Inaddtion to viel mockery of the word of God and our lord


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WARNING: EXPLICIT LYRICS BELOW

“I plugged my m****s with pages from the holy book
But still inside ** coiled deep was the need to know
Are you cheating on me?”

(From the song “Denial” by Beyonce)




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What is the answer to this ? to be continued
 

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The answer?

2chronicles 7:14
14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Jesus said in the last days, the love of many will wax cold, YET the church, the gates of hell, will not prevail against it.

The church must repent for the nation and cry out to god, as did Daniel. If not, you will cry out when you fall into captivity.

God said after speaking of the coming Judgment, Jeremiah 18:8 said


"if that nation against which I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent concerning the calamity I planned to bring on it."

God has always answered to humbleness and repentance, calling on the name of the Lord Jesus.

Jesus said in Revelation 2 many times to the church :


5 Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place—unless you repent.

16 Repent, or else I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.

21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent.
22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds.


REVELATION 3

3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.


6 TIMES Jesus Mentions to the churches REPENT!

If you don't stand for the word of God when it is unpopular, you will not stand for the word of God when it is illegal. Very soon, the decision to deny him or not will be among us, and then you will either stand by the power of the Holy Spirit as you are supposed to be doing now, or you will crumble as many are now. If you can't obey the Holy Spirit now when he says to get to work, you will not do so. You have been deceived. All your knowledge and never arriving to stand in the faith will not save you. The expository study that you have learned in your mind and have not used in your walk is meaningless.

2tim 3:5-7

5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!
6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.



Pray, call on the lord's name; we all must stop wasting time. Fast and Pray for one another. We need to lay at the altar of churches and seek HIS face. Keep knocking, keep asking, and keep seeking the lesson of opportunity. We must turn our hearts back to God as never before.
 

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The answer?

2chronicles 7:14
14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Jesus said in the last days, the love of many will wax cold, YET the church, the gates of hell, will not prevail against it.

The church must repent for the nation and cry out to god, as did Daniel. If not, you will cry out when you fall into captivity.

God said after speaking of the coming Judgment, Jeremiah 18:8 said


"if that nation against which I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent concerning the calamity I planned to bring on it."

God has always answered to humbleness and repentance, calling on the name of the Lord Jesus.

Jesus said in Revelation 2 many times to the church :


5 Remember therefore from where you have fallen; repent and do the first works, or else I will come to you quickly and remove your lampstand from its place—unless you repent.

16 Repent, or else I will come to you quickly and will fight against them with the sword of My mouth.

21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent.
22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds.


REVELATION 3

3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.


6 TIMES Jesus Mentions to the churches REPENT!

If you don't stand for the word of God when it is unpopular, you will not stand for the word of God when it is illegal. Very soon, the decision to deny him or not will be among us, and then you will either stand by the power of the Holy Spirit as you are supposed to be doing now, or you will crumble as many are now. If you can't obey the Holy Spirit now when he says to get to work, you will not do so. You have been deceived. All your knowledge and never arriving to stand in the faith will not save you. The expository study that you have learned in your mind and have not used in your walk is meaningless.

2tim 3:5-7

5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away!
6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.



Pray, call on the lord's name; we all must stop wasting time. Fast and Pray for one another. We need to lay at the altar of churches and seek HIS face. Keep knocking, keep asking, and keep seeking the lesson of opportunity. We must turn our hearts back to God as never before.
What would your ideal perfect world look like?
 

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2 Chronicles 7:14
Thank you for the inspiration :)
 

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Regarding the people who are deliberately trying to destroy this country by snuffing out Christianity from the social conscience, I like the thought of them experiencing Clinton-assisted suicide, but that’s not what God wants.

May we always fight the good fight, and in doing so, keep our enemies lifted in prayer, that God will open their eyes and hearts to His glory. It’s difficult to do sometimes but we must be vigilant.
 
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The wickedness of the USA is no different than any nation that has ever been. There is nothing new under the sun. This nation is under no convenant nor is it special to God. Its a nation as all nations and will rise and fall according to the will of God.
 

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I do not understand the question you are asking.
Well, for starters you seem to be saying God's blessing, His glory has departed the USA and the church. If His glory returned, what would that look like to you? How would the church, the government, etc. be transformed?
 

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The wickedness of the USA is no different than any nation that has ever been. There is nothing new under the sun. This nation is under no convenant nor is it special to God. Its a nation as all nations and will rise and fall according to the will of God.

The promises of God are for all nations who obey them. His judgment has come on many of them. And His wrath has turned away from a Nation who repented. The Word of god says:

Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, But sin is a reproach to any people.

Psalm 33:12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, The people He has chosen as His own inheritance.

Every Nation that did fall in God's word fell because for many REASONS.

The Bible records nations falling because they would not help Isreal or were used to take them captive, or the sin of that nation brought God's Judgment on them.

God's judgment or plegues or relented judgment due to repentance

  • Egypt
  • Nineveh
  • Sodom and Gomorrah
  • Tower Bable
  • Noah's generation
  • The Philistines
  • Babylon
Many more. To think Christians are to stand by and think Nation come and go according to God's will, are not taking into account God's word that says HE will save a nation IF they Repent. And God's Judgement did not happen in a nation just because they drew the short straw. SIN they did offend God. And the wickedness of my nation is no different than other nations; however, Too Much Given is much required.

Psalms 9:4-5 , 17

4 For You have maintained my right and my cause;
You sat on the throne judging in righteousness.
5 You have rebuked the nations,
You have destroyed the wicked;
You have blotted out their name forever and ever.


17The wicked shall be turned into hell,
And all the nations that forget God.


The promise from God of Judgment on a nation and the promise from God to save a nation.

But it starts with the church and the people of God
 

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Well, for starters you seem to be saying God's blessing, His glory has departed the USA and the church. If His glory returned, what would that look like to you? How would the church, the government, etc. be transformed?
I am not looking for the " Church" to be government. What we see, at least I do, is very clearly the action of the United States to that of Isreal in context to thinking God was with them and not hearing the word of The Lord of the Judgment and captivity.
I am not worried about what God did to other nations. I am in America, born and raised. Living in CA as a Husband, father, and minister.

To answer your question, I believe the church is too carnal and fearful to speak the truth of God's word in love. To call sin, sin, and Jesus as the only answer for today. We stand by as schools and laws passed to sexually abuse children. Christians are in the Closet, and sexual perversion is out, and Christians need to get into the prayer Closet.


We must
1. repent
2. pray
3. live out the life we confess
4. Proclaim the word of God
5. Stand for Righiouness
6. listen to the Holy Spirt
7. do the work of the church Great Commission, love people.
 

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I am not looking for the " Church" to be government. What we see, at least I do, is very clearly the action of the United States to that of Isreal in context to thinking God was with them and not hearing the word of The Lord of the Judgment and captivity.
I am not worried about what God did to other nations. I am in America, born and raised. Living in CA as a Husband, father, and minister.

To answer your question, I believe the church is too carnal and fearful to speak the truth of God's word in love. To call sin, sin, and Jesus as the only answer for today. We stand by as schools and laws passed to sexually abuse children. Christians are in the Closet, and sexual perversion is out, and Christians need to get into the prayer Closet.


We must
1. repent
2. pray
3. live out the life we confess
4. Proclaim the word of God
5. Stand for Righiouness
6. listen to the Holy Spirt
7. do the work of the church Great Commission, love people.
One of the biggest mistake the body of Christ fell into was in getting married to government. Now she expects government to be the solution for everything. There's plenty of sexual perversion within Christianity's own closet. We need to worry about that first before we go around telling the rest of the world how to live.

"For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?" 1 Peter 4:17

"For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person." 1 Corinthians 5:12-13

All I know is, whenever I call out problems within the body; when I call out false teachers, I'm derided and scorned as a "divider." So I don't know what you propose to do about a church that doesn't want to hear it but would rather cry out to Uncle Sam to save us. I agree we need to pray, but not for the world to change but for us to change.
 

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One of the biggest mistake the body of Christ fell into was in getting married to government. Now she expects government to be the solution for everything. There's plenty of sexual perversion within Christianity's own closet. We need to worry about that first before we go around telling the rest of the world how to live.

"For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?" 1 Peter 4:17

"For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person." 1 Corinthians 5:12-13

All I know is, whenever I call out problems within the body; when I call out false teachers, I'm derided and scorned as a "divider." So I don't know what you propose to do about a church that doesn't want to hear it but would rather cry out to Uncle Sam to save us. I agree we need to pray, but not for the world to change but for us to change.
OOOoook. I don't see anyone saying Uncle Sam save me. LOL. And if there is plenty of sexual perversion within Christianity, then you prove my point. Unless you are trying to justify a sin done by another group?
 

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OOOoook. I don't see anyone saying Uncle Sam save me. LOL.
Yeah, right.

And if there is plenty of sexual perversion within Christianity, then you prove my point. Unless you are trying to justify a sin done by another group?
If there's plenty of sexual perversion within Christianity?

You're too deep in denial. I'll leave you to your fantasy world.
 

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Yeah, right.



If there's plenty of sexual perversion within Christianity?

You're too deep in denial. I'll leave you to your fantasy world.
Ok, please do. You are more wanting to be confrontational than wanting to have a discussion. I have placed you back on Ignore. Bye bye .
 
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We hardly ever see a Nation turn from God and get the chance to return back to God.

We do see God destroying the Nation and later on a REMNANT springs up generations later.

I would say the USA does not have the opportunity to return back to God nor will there be a REMNANT generations from now.

The timing of Prophecy fulfillment and things to come seem to reveal once God turns on the USA, that's the end of story for the USA.
 

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Paul tells us in Romans what it looks like when God abandons a nation.

1. RAMPANT SEXUAL DEVIANCE
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

2. HOMOSEXUALITY
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

3. INSANITY. ALL MATTERS OF FILTH WILL NOT SIMPLY BE ACCEPTED BUT THEY WILL BE GLORIFIED AND PROTECTED.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Throughout biblical history we see this time and time again, steps 1-3 occur then destruction. We're in phase 3, prepare accordingly.
 

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We hardly ever see a Nation turn from God and get the chance to return back to God.

We do see God destroying the Nation and later on a REMNANT springs up generations later.

I would say the USA does not have the opportunity to return back to God nor will there be a REMNANT generations from now.

The timing of Prophecy fulfillment and things to come seem to reveal once God turns on the USA, that's the end of story for the USA.
There are nations who did, in fact, repent, and God did not bring Judgement on them. I disagree.

The God I serve said he would not destroy Sodom if there were 10 righteous in the city. There are more than 10 righteous from the USA on this site. Who is crying out to the living God asking for revival and mercy.

Thank God Paul from the Holy Spirit said

Where sin did abound, Grace did much more abound, but should we sin more that grace abounds more? God Forbid.

Yes, Gods time table will happen, but that doesn't mean the United States has to be removed from the face of the earth.
Next to Great Britain, China, and many other counties that have been in existence and evil, God is still merciful.

There is a remnant. The church is still alive and has an opportunity to push back and see the gates of hell not Prevail. That is what Jesus said. WE will see persecution, war, and much before the coming of the Lord. But the gospel is to still be preached..
 

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My allegiance and citizenship is in Heaven and I deny any other.

Hebrews 11

8By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

13These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
 

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My allegiance and citizenship is in Heaven and I deny any other.

Hebrews 11

8By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: 10For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

13These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. 14For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
Really did Paul deny he was a Jew? Or a Roman Citizen? If we obey the laws of the land, which we are too, unless they violate God's law.

Yet how many people will say they deny all others yet accept a Check on the 1st & 15th of the month from the Place where they live?