Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth

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Walter

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Monday 12-12-22 2nd. Day Of The Weekly Cycle, Kislev 17, 5783 82nd. Fall Day



…weeks on the gestation of Christ‘s birth. Thus we cannot just count a fixed number of weeks to determine when Christ was born. Then Jesus could have been born in the May-to-March period. In summary, attempting to determine the date of Christ‘ birth by starting with the occasion when Zacharias served in the temple has serious flaws.



Was Jesus born in September or on December 25? — Using John the Baptist’s birth
Discover if Jesus was born in the month of September. We start with the date that the angel visited the priest Zacharias in the Holy Place.

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Use whatever chronological calculations you want, you'll never nail it down to December 25—or any day for that matter.
 

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Thank you Walter and Debbie.
‘There’s like 5 other threads on this topic right now.
 

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I'm not interested TruthBook or the Urantia Book. All one has to do is read no further than the Forward to figure out what it's about:

"It is exceedingly difficult to present enlarged concepts and advanced truth, in our endeavor to expand cosmic consciousness and enhance spiritual perception, when we are restricted to the use of a circumscribed language of the realm."​

Most of the information at TruthBook about "Why the 25th of December" I know for a fact is wrong and I don't really trust the rest of it.
 

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I would be happy to just pin down what year Jesus was born.
 

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I'm not interested TruthBook or the Urantia Book. All one has to do is read no further than the Forward to figure out what it's about:

"It is exceedingly difficult to present enlarged concepts and advanced truth, in our endeavor to expand cosmic consciousness and enhance spiritual perception, when we are restricted to the use of a circumscribed language of the realm."​

Most of the information at TruthBook about "Why the 25th of December" I know for a fact is wrong and I don't really trust the rest of it.
Hello ResidentAlien, I'm beginning to see some things about the site.

Walter
 

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They say, "All the evidence supports the years of 3-2 B.C. as the time of Christ’s birth."

That would mean that if Jesus live 33 years, then Jesus would have died around 30AD.

Some believe that the Millennial "day of rest" will be the 7th 1000-year day (begin after 6000 years. have passed.)
If creation occurred 4000 years before Christ's death, then creation would have been at (4000 - 30AD) = 3970BC.
And 2000 more years will bring us to the beginning of the 7th day, at (6000 - 3970BC) = 2030AD.

Where would that put the pre-trib rapture?
 

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He was born Feast of Tabernacles 5BC

Crucified Passover/Unleavened Bread 30BC
 
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You might want to look up the time of the lambing and when that was.
Shepherds in the fields, ..... wrapped in swaddling cloth gives us a hint.
God is pretty precise on his timing and jesus being the "lamb of GOD " points more to this event.
Lambs are born only once a year.
 

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They say, "All the evidence supports the years of 3-2 B.C. as the time of Christ’s birth."

That would mean that if Jesus live 33 years, then Jesus would have died around 30AD.

Some believe that the Millennial "day of rest" will be the 7th 1000-year day (begin after 6000 years. have passed.)
If creation occurred 4000 years before Christ's death, then creation would have been at (4000 - 30AD) = 3970BC.
And 2000 more years will bring us to the beginning of the 7th day, at (6000 - 3970BC) = 2030AD.

Where would that put the pre-trib rapture?
Good morning, I wonder do this make any sense:

Seven day theory or seven thousand years from creation theory (thepropheticyears.com)

Love, Walter
 

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Some believe that the Millennial "day of rest" will be the 7th 1000-year day (begin after 6000 years. have passed.)
If creation occurred 4000 years before Christ's death, then creation would have been at (4000 - 30AD) = 3970BC.
And 2000 more years will bring us to the beginning of the 7th day, at (6000 - 3970BC) = 2030AD.
They came to a conclusion similar to mine:

"Experts differ on the date and the year that Jesus actually was crucified. Good arguments exist on dates from 30 to 35 AD. If Jesus comes back to rule in the start of the Sabbath 7th day, and the thousand year day can be taken literally, than that would indicate that Jesus will come back to set up His kingdom between 2030-2035 AD."

That would put a pre-tribulation rapture at between 2023-2028 AD.
 

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They came to a conclusion similar to mine:

"Experts differ on the date and the year that Jesus actually was crucified. Good arguments exist on dates from 30 to 35 AD. If Jesus comes back to rule in the start of the Sabbath 7th day, and the thousand year day can be taken literally, than that would indicate that Jesus will come back to set up His kingdom between 2030-2035 AD."

That would put a pre-tribulation rapture at between 2023-2028 AD.
Interesting,

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
Answer: The pretribulation rapture is the glorious event described in the Holy scriptures in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. These verses describe the resurrection of believers, both dead and alive, from earth to Heaven. The Lord will descend from Heaven to the air, with the trumpet sound of God, and will call all believers to him.

But there is more to this issue: if interested

3 Reasons Why There Cannot Ba A Pre-Tribulation Rapture | NoPreTrib



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Interesting,

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
Answer: The pretribulation rapture is the glorious event described in the Holy scriptures in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. These verses describe the resurrection of believers, both dead and alive, from earth to Heaven. The Lord will descend from Heaven to the air, with the trumpet sound of God, and will call all believers to him.

But there is more to this issue: if interested

3 Reasons Why There Cannot Ba A Pre-Tribulation Rapture | NoPreTrib



Walter
The Doctrine of the Pre-Tribulation Rapture - Revelation Study Guide