What Is The Gospel?

Guys like you are actually a good testimony of why sinless perfectionism even after regeneration is such a destructive, heretical doctrine.

Somehow in your mind you have rationalized that deceiving us, and lying isn’t sin.

You redefine what sin is and cheapen God’s Holy, perfect standard.

The problem is that some baby Christians may stumble because of your heresy. And that will be on you before the Lord.

“but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, ( action ) and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.( residue )

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1:7-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Mostly people who think they are sinless , aren’t able to acknolwedge tbier own sins because they won’t stand in the light

This is a small ray of the light

“But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloke forbid not to take thy coat also.

Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again. And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom.

For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.


And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: he is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:27-31, 35-38, 46-49‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“ sinless folk “ won’t hear this , those who have acknowledged thier own sins and shortcomings will embrace it and hold on forever

awhile the self righteous stand back and say of Jesus the savior “ he’s associating with sinners “

“Then drew near unto him all the publicans and sinners for to hear him.


And the Pharisees and scribes murmured, saying, This man receiveth sinners, and eateth with them.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭15:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

GOD Sees the future. He knows those that eventually fully Repent. if you physically die without a sin rejecting conscience ...you burn.

So i ended your excuses with David and now you want to move onto Solomon? Hint: he had 666 talents of gold.

The translators added the "a" sin. Stop trying to make all sin the same level of offence ...you do this to excuse the times you do death sin.

[1Jo 5:16 KJV] If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
[1Jo 5:17 KJV] All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

We have a troll here who has re-invented himself. Actually pitchforks should also be brought back.

“Who art thou that judgest another man's servant?

to his own master he standeth or falleth.

Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself. For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.

For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.

But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, And every tongue shall confess to God.

So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭14:4, 7-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

your trying to sit in a judgement seat tbat doesn’t belong to you let Christ be the judge of his people ( including you ) and share his word with them

What Brother has excuses to deliberately sin?

Your question is flawed. No one is excusing sin, deliberate or otherwise. The point of contention is whether forgiveness for those who sin remains possible.
To this point you have as I understand your argument said no. And numerous people have shown you from scripture why your beliefs are flawed.
Can you explain what God is teaching in Romans 8:1 where it is says there is now therefore no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus?

What do you think is being Said here?

[1 John 3:3-10] "And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure. Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. You know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. Little children, make sure no one deceives you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil. No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. By this the children of God and the children of the devil are obvious: anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor the one who does not love his brother."

The translators added the "a" sin. Stop trying to make all sin the same level of offence ...you do this to excuse the times you do death sin.

[1Jo 5:16 KJV] If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
[1Jo 5:17 KJV] All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

Your one of those people that can’t hear because your always talking over the scripture you should hear what Jesus had to say to believers in him it will save believers

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:9-11‬ ‭

when you go to face judgement your going to face what Jesus said about things

regarding repentance ?

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

regarding forgiveness of sin , judgement and condemnation of those who hear and believe

“For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: but if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭6:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful. ( children being taught) Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall be given into your bosom.

For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6:36-38‬ ‭

When you go to judgement Jesus isn’t going to ask you if your sinless he already knows you aren’t that’s why he came and died he’s going to judge you according to faith by the words of Christ Jesus in the gospel

a when it comes to sin Jesus is always saying the same thing “ I don’t condemn you now go and stop sinning “

He’s always saying “ repent and believe “ today , tomorrow and yesterday and also until the end of time

your in this boat also

“for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:23‬ ‭

So you need to first accept this for yourself and everyone else

“What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

zincs you acknowledge that , then accept this for yourself and everyone else

“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin;

that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:21‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭2:24-25‬ ‭KJV‬‬


It’s when we share Christ in the gospel with people and tell them to go to him and learn that they can hear this call

“I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭5:32‬ ‭

It doesn’t happen when one sinner judges and brow beats other sinners as if they are holy and sinless themselves that just becomes a hypocracy and drives people away from the church

Thanks for replying. Your answer deals with sin and you seem to judge someone based on sinfulness and sinlessness. But I'm asking how does God determine, according to the verse, who is condemned?

Yeah, i get it, you think we don't get punished for sin anymore ...you are pretending sin isn't separation in your Relationship with Him.

I'm not asking what you assume I believe. I'm asking you what God is teaching in Romans 8:1. Will you answer the question?

Do you think, just maybe, It's Talking about those that are GOD'S Seed and Walk in The Light?

I'm not assuming anything. I'm asking you directly what does the verse teach. Will you share what you believe that is?

[Rom 8:1 KJV] There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[Rom 8:2 KJV] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
[Rom 8:3 KJV] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
[Rom 8:4 KJV] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


So as you continue to do deliberation flesh sin ...you think you are walking in The Light?

The Adopted have CHRIST'S Law Written to their hearts.

The question I have isn't about sin...it's about condemnation. By what distinction does God condemn according to Romans 8:1?

Drive them away from what? You are talking about driving people away from the false church that Adam and Eve bought into.

Sorry, saying some magic words doesn't get your new sins forgiven after you already know The Truth.

i don't know how many times i have to post this until someone will read It:

[Heb 10:26 KJV] For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Walking after the flesh.