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TheLearner

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What books, dvds have you learned your theology, doctrines from? Publishers. I do not want to hear you only learned from the Bible, that seems pridfull to me.
 
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RichMan

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What books, dvds have you learned your theology, doctrines from? Publishers. I do not want to hear you only learned from the Bible, that seems pridfull to me.
You first.
Whose opinion have you accepted?
Are you suggesting there is a greater source than Word of God?
 

Cameron143

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What books, dvds have you learned your theology, doctrines from? Publishers. I do not want to hear you only learned from the Bible, that seems pridfull to me.
We're all an amalgamation of so many contributors. I forget who said it and I'm taking liberties in my recalling of the quote but someone a lot smarter than I said something to the effect that we stand on the shoulders of those who came before us, and by them are enabled to see much farther.
Some of the people I enjoy reading and/or listening to include:

John Piper
Henry Blackaby
Francis Schaefer
Martyn Lloyd Jones
Alistair Begg
Philip DeCoursey
Sinclair Ferguson

There are so many others too including a pastor I have sat under for a quarter of a century. I love listening to sermons and listen to 40-50 a week so anyone who at least begins with scripture has taught me something.
 

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This oughta be good. 🍕🍿🍻
 
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kaylagrl

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We're all an amalgamation of so many contributors. I forget who said it and I'm taking liberties in my recalling of the quote but someone a lot smarter than I said something to the effect that we stand on the shoulders of those who came before us, and by them are enabled to see much farther.
Some of the people I enjoy reading and/or listening to include:

John Piper
Henry Blackaby
Francis Schaefer
Martyn Lloyd Jones
Alistair Begg
Philip DeCoursey
Sinclair Ferguson

There are so many others too including a pastor I have sat under for a quarter of a century. I love listening to sermons and listen to 40-50 a week so anyone who at least begins with scripture has taught me something.

Have sat under so many learned pastors. I got to sit under the ministry of the pastor that married my parents. Wonderful man of God, so deep into the Word, and his son became a pastor and I sat under his ministry. There are great men of God from revivalists to preachers to evangelists. Leonard Ravenhill comes to mind, William Booth, Billy Sunday, apologists CS Lewis, Lee Strobel, Josh Mc Dowell. Just a few that pop into my mind.
 

Cameron143

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Have sat under so many learned pastors. I got to sit under the ministry of the pastor that married my parents. Wonderful man of God, so deep into the Word, and his son became a pastor and I sat under his ministry. There are great men of God from revivalists to preachers to evangelists. Leonard Ravenhill comes to mind, William Booth, Billy Sunday, apologists CS Lewis, Lee Strobel, Josh Mc Dowell. Just a few that pop into my mind.
I'm familiar with most you have mentioned. I particularly like McDowell's law perspective in defense of the faith. And who doesn't love C S Lewis. God has certainly left a legacy of truth in his faithful ministers throughout the ages.
 
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kaylagrl

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I'm familiar with most you have mentioned. I particularly like McDowell's law perspective in defense of the faith. And who doesn't love C S Lewis. God has certainly left a legacy of truth in his faithful ministers throughout the ages.
I had Mc Dowells " Evidence the Demands a Verdict" and leant it to family and they lost it. grrr. So much information in one book.
 

Gojira

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This oughta be good. 🍕🍿🍻
Except that it's not our job to be arguing with each other, regardless of how entertaining some of you may find it.

They will know us by our love.

Yeah, disagreements happen, but we should try to minimize them, and certainly not allow ourselves to be entertained by them.
 

Cameron143

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I had Mc Dowells " Evidence the Demands a Verdict" and leant it to family and they lost it. grrr. So much information in one book.
That's a great book. I believe he wrote another one too. Strobel's perspective is interesting too given his background in journalism. Have you ever heard Sinclair Ferguson?
 

Snacks

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Except that it's not our job to be arguing with each other, regardless of how entertaining some of you may find it.

They will know us by our love.

Yeah, disagreements happen, but we should try to minimize them, and certainly not allow ourselves to be entertained by them.
Not arguing with the OP regarding such a dumb post is a step in the right direction for me.
 
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kaylagrl

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That's a great book. I believe he wrote another one too. Strobel's perspective is
interesting too given his background in journalism. Have you ever heard Sinclair Ferguson?
Yes, enjoy him too and glad he did the movie. No I don't think I have ever heard of Ferguson.
 

montana123

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What books, dvds have you learned your theology, doctrines from? Publishers. I do not want to hear you only learned from the Bible, that seems pridfull to me.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Act 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

Jas 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

People knowledgeable in the word of God is beneficial to tell people about the word of God and the Gospel of Christ so they will know.

And to preach about the word of God.

But the Bible says to search the scriptures to make sure they are telling you the truth.

Which the preacher does not get more wisdom from God to understand His word more than anybody else for everybody can have the same wisdom.

The Bible says we need not that any man teach us so after we hear about the word of God and the Gospel of Christ we can study the word of God and understand the same thing as the greatest of preachers without being taught by a man.

For what would make them more special to understand than what a common pew sitter can understand if it is the Holy Spirit that teaches us.

Which some people probably depend too much on what other people say instead of reading the Bible and letting the Spirit teach them.

The Spirit is our best teacher of understanding the Bible and a person can read the Bible and be taught by the Spirit and it would benefit them the most.

No human teacher is going to do better than the Spirit in teaching the word of God to a person.
 

Cameron143

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You first.
Whose opinion have you accepted?
Are you suggesting there is a greater source than Word of God?
I think the objective is to broaden perspectives. If we are able to glean truth through study and revelation, surely others have as well. As God has been pleased to ordain pastors and teachers and evangelists for the edification of the saints, it would behoove us to take full advantage of such grace.
Ultimately we will have to employ discernment, but even the poorest minister who begins with scripture has, at the very least, begun well.
 

Cameron143

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Not arguing with the OP regarding such a dumb post is a step in the right direction for me.
Baby steps...good strategy. This will help you later in phase 2: the mother may I phase.
I am ever encouraged by such lavish grace so freely given.
 
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notonmywatch

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What books, dvds have you learned your theology, doctrines from? Publishers. I do not want to hear you only learned from the Bible, that seems pridfull to me.
Why does only learning from the Bible seem prideful to you?

We should all be humbling ourselves before God and his word while seeking the Holy Spirit to not only teach us all things, but also to lead us and guide us into all truth.
 

Gojira

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That's a great book. I believe he wrote another one too. Strobel's perspective is interesting too given his background in journalism. Have you ever heard Sinclair Ferguson?
I have that one...sitting on my bookshelf. Surely you could get another copy??
 

ResidentAlien

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What books, dvds have you learned your theology, doctrines from? Publishers. I do not want to hear you only learned from the Bible, that seems pridfull to me.
I don't look to books for doctrine; for that I do rely only on the Bible. I guess I'm prideful.

I read a lot of books that one might call Christian "investigative journalism" and history. I read a couple of Hank Hanegraaff's books before he went off the rails. I enjoy reading books about cults like Jonestown and the Branch Davidians. Walter Martin's Kingdom of the Cults. I read one called Broken Faith: Inside the Word of Faith Fellowship about a cult in North Carolina. David E. Harrell's All Things Are Possible: The Healing and Charismatic Revivals in Modern America about a little-known, but extremely influential period in modern Christianity. Recently I read Faith Based Fraud by Warren Cole Smith.
 

Adstar

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What books, dvds have you learned your theology, doctrines from? Publishers. I do not want to hear you only learned from the Bible, that seems pridfull to me.
When you read the Bible with the guidance of the Holy Spirit it is not prideful to say you only follow the scriptures.. Because one trusts in the guidance of the Holy Spirit and not in their own intellect,, Neither do they trust in other men or human institutions like theological colleges.. In the end if the Holy Spirit is not guiding you then you will only end up with false interpretations of scripture..
 

jb

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Leonard Ravenhill comes to mind...
Great choice!

ANYTHING I ever hear or read I always test it against Scripture!

BUT the best way is to sit in the Lord's presence and pray with a Bible in hand!