Deadly wound

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I personally believe that the deadly wound is NATO where upon the antichrist will show up and heals the deadly wound. The timing of that makes my case for a revelation six as another marker on the timetable. This is not a test run
The war will be followed by inflation and famine, and everybody will still be here.
 
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Stach said:
I personally believe that the deadly wound is NATO where upon the antichrist will show up and heals the deadly wound. The timing of that makes my case for a revelation six as another marker on the timetable. This is not a test run. The war will be followed by inflation and famine, and everybody will still be here.
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So NATO will receive a deadly wound?
 
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Stach said:
I personally believe that the deadly wound is NATO where upon the antichrist will show up and heals the deadly wound.
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NATO cannot possibly be one of the "heads" in this prophecy.

THE PROPHECY
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy... And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. (Rev 3:3,12)

THE INTERPRETATION
And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. (Rev 17:9-13)

We know that the Beast of Revelation 13 is none other than the Antichrist, the Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, and the Little Horn revealed by Daniel. Evidently he will have ten nations and ten heads of state as his allies. And he will sit in the temple of God in Jerusalem and will blaspheme God and Christ.

It has long been held that those ten nations are related to the former Roman Empire, and will more than likely be ten nations within the European union. Since the "woman" who rides on the Beast has been identified my many as the Catholic church, it would seem that these nations were a part of the Holy Roman Empire. Those major nations were Germany, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Austria, Croatia, Belgium, and the Netherlands as well as large parts of modern Poland, France and Italy. "Wounded to death" probably means the total destruction of one of those nations and then its being rebuilt. Almost all these nations are in the process of self-destruction right now but we would be unwise to identify which one will be completely destroyed. Since NATO is simply a military alliance, it cannot be regarded as either a nation or a head of state.
 
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I personally believe that the deadly wound is NATO where upon the antichrist will show up and heals the deadly wound. The timing of that makes my case for a revelation six as another marker on the timetable. This is not a test run
The war will be followed by inflation and famine, and everybody will still be here.
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May I ask who you are reading after or listening to?
 
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Hello first and foremost, I was a man of the world. I study every religion made tons of money broke every law never got caught. Single father, I raised four kids are very successful business people, but they did not respect me. I did not respect me.
Well, everybody’s got a story that was mine
I came upon Shepherd Chapel after listening to every other preacher I could, but this one challenged me, by saying the gospel could be learned by a five-year-old. I challenge him I studied for 30 years and he is right. I have a brain of a five-year-old and I picked it up very easily. There is no secrets in my life, especially in the body of Christ.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
So NATO will receive a deadly wound?
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Yes NATO is my best guess
It’s a very important military/New World order tool, that it appears Russia is going to take out very quickly I would say in the next six months or less. That would be breaking the second seal in revelation, which is war.
These are all my predictions I could based them pretty close to the Bible and what is actually happening in real time and make it look like I can follow artificial intelligence with the military is doing right now. And I would say I’ve been following the artificial intelligence very closely, he has fooled me a few times lol.
 
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NATO cannot possibly be one of the "heads" in this prophecy.

THE PROPHECY
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy... And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. (Rev 3:3,12)

THE INTERPRETATION
And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. (Rev 17:9-13)

We know that the Beast of Revelation 13 is none other than the Antichrist, the Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, and the Little Horn revealed by Daniel. Evidently he will have ten nations and ten heads of state as his allies. And he will sit in the temple of God in Jerusalem and will blaspheme God and Christ.

It has long been held that those ten nations are related to the former Roman Empire, and will more than likely be ten nations within the European union. Since the "woman" who rides on the Beast has been identified my many as the Catholic church, it would seem that these nations were a part of the Holy Roman Empire. Those major nations were Germany, Czech Republic, Slovenia, Austria, Croatia, Belgium, and the Netherlands as well as large parts of modern Poland, France and Italy. "Wounded to death" probably means the total destruction of one of those nations and then its being rebuilt. Almost all these nations are in the process of self-destruction right now but we would be unwise to identify which one will be completely destroyed. Since NATO is simply a military alliance, it cannot be regarded as either a nation or a head of state.
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OK that’s a good guess. If it’s not NATO may be could be Ukraine if that’s where we were going with this. You’re actually proving my point
 
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The anti-christ will come out of Islam, one of the nations conquered by Alexander the Great.
He will take a head wound that will kill him but will stand up alive again.
He will subdue/control 3 Islamic nations and 7 more will "lend" their power to him.
This 10 Islamic nation alliance will attack Israel, driving them into the wilderness where God will protect them for 1260 days until Jesus returns.
When he is unable to destroy Israel, he will turn his wrath on the saints for 1260 days.
He will not claim to be Jesus. He will claim to be greater than Jesus and demand all worship him as god.
No true believer/saint will worship him. Many will die but some will survive and be alive when Jesus returns and cast the anti-christ into the pit.
This is the first resurrection. All whose names are in the book of life will be in the first resurrection.
There will be no 7 year peace treaty with Israel.
There will be no revised Roman empire.
 
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The anti-christ will come out of Islam, one of the nations conquered by Alexander the Great. He will take a head wound that will kill him but will stand up alive again.
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There is nothing in the Bible to support this.
 
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Satan tries to counterfeit nearly everything that God does.

Christ's wounds, death, burial and resurrection are not "symbolic". They are literal occurrences.

Therefore, the Antichrist's or the beast's (whoever he may be) deadly wound is not "symbolic" either.
 
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In 1796, during the French Revolutionary Wars, French troops under Napoleon Bonaparte invaded Rome and captured Pope Pius VI, taking him as a prisoner to France, where he died in 1799. -wiki



Joe Biden is Catholic and most of the U.S. Supreme Court is Catholic, not to mention Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom and Melania Trump...

Vatican City is a independent country that ruled by the Catholic Church, so it has regained some it's political powers.

Vatican City State (Italian: Stato della Città del Vaticano;[e] Latin: Status Civitatis Vaticanae),[f][g] is an independent city-state, microstate and enclave within Rome, Italy.[13][14] It became independent from Italy in 1929 with the Lateran Treaty, and it is a distinct territory under "full ownership, exclusive dominion, and sovereign authority and jurisdiction" of the Holy See, itself a sovereign entity of international law, which maintains the city state's temporal, diplomatic, and spiritual independence.[ -wiki


One could argue the U.S. is a Catholic country. Celebrating Catholic Holidays like Christmas, Easter, and Halloween.


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There is much to add, but people can look into it, if interested. Prince Charles of Wales is another person of interest, but that's it for now.
 
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In 1796, during the French Revolutionary Wars, French troops under Napoleon Bonaparte invaded Rome and captured Pope Pius VI, taking him as a prisoner to France, where he died in 1799. -wiki



Joe Biden is Catholic and most of the U.S. Supreme Court is Catholic, not to mention Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom and Melania Trump...

Vatican City is a independent country that ruled by the Catholic Church, so it has regained some it's political powers.

Vatican City State (Italian: Stato della Città del Vaticano;[e] Latin: Status Civitatis Vaticanae),[f][g] is an independent city-state, microstate and enclave within Rome, Italy.[13][14] It became independent from Italy in 1929 with the Lateran Treaty, and it is a distinct territory under "full ownership, exclusive dominion, and sovereign authority and jurisdiction" of the Holy See, itself a sovereign entity of international law, which maintains the city state's temporal, diplomatic, and spiritual independence.[ -wiki


One could argue the U.S. is a Catholic country. Celebrating Catholic Holidays like Christmas, Easter, and Halloween.


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There is much to add, but people can look into it, if interested. Prince Charles of Wales is another person of interest, but that's it for now.
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Thank you for putting a lot of work into that
Now the beast that we’re talking about has 7 heads which is a multi headed system, which tells me that’s the governments, and in no way the churches. The poke to me is a type of antichrist, but the real antichrist will be super natural and he’s not here yet the pope to me is a type of antichrist, but the real antichrist will be super natural and he’s not here yet
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
There is nothing in the Bible to support this.
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Thank you I’ve been very busy. I have read your post. I appreciate you. I have to learn how to field questions in the real world if I plan to be able to help people, so I have to come here to test myself against very knowledgeable people so that I very much appreciate. I won’t forget you brother I’ll get back. Remember everything is just my opinions based on the Bible and I can’t support it because I am also watching in real time the world events. So when Jerusalem falls into the hands of the antichrist when that abomination stands before us and proclaims, he is Jesus
Jerusalem will fall and the neighboring Arab nations will move in. Why wouldn’t andJerusalem will fall and the neighboring Arab nations will move in. Why wouldn’t they they’re in the neighborhood.
 
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I presume you are referring to Rev 13 then?
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The "deadly wound" is only found in Revelation 13:3 & 12. There are as many interpretations as there are commentators, and much depends on whether they are influenced by Reformed Theology. It is Daniel who first spoke of the beast with ten horns (Rev 7:7,8), but the important thing to note is the Little Horn (the Antichrist):

7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. 8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

"A mouth speaking great things" in fact tells us that this man ("the eyes of a man and a mouth") is the Arch Blasphemer of God. But nowhere in Daniel is this "king of fierce countenance" wounded. As a matter of fact he is the one who kills and destroys others. The "deadly wound" speaks of total destruction since it applies to a "kingdom". Just like during WWII Japan was totally devastated and then rebuilt, a European nation will experience total destruction.
 
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Stach said:
Why wouldn’t Jerusalem will fall and the neighboring Arab nations will move in.
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Because the Antichrist is in control of all nations at that time. See Revelation 13.
 
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" I came upon Shepherd Chapel after listening to every other preacher I could, but this one challenged me, by saying the gospel could be learned by a five-year-old. "

Progression in events seems necessary before the literal revelations surrounding the scar, the origin of the antichrist, the 10 horns/3 horns, etc. can be understood with accuracy. It is quite certain nations will align in a readily perceivable fashion described. When they do it should become obvious as to what Revelation is telling(perhaps including that 5 year old) those that maintain their studies of this subject.

Perhaps as obvious as this presently unfolding event:

Zechariah 12:3
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
 
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Thank you for putting a lot of work into that
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Just one correction in my post, Mike Pence was raised Catholic, but it looks like he accepted Jesus in college, and has attended an evangelical church, since the 90's.

1. He was raised Catholic and later attended an evangelical megachurch.


"Growing up in an Irish Catholic family that reportedly revered the Kennedys, Pence served as an altar boy and went to parochial school in Columbus, Ind., according to Fehrman."


"Pence has said he made that "commitment to Christ" while taking part in a nondenominational Christian student group in college, according to the journalist. Pence had told The Indianapolis Star that he and his family attended Grace Evangelical Church in the 1990s, but by 2013, he told Fehrman they were "kind of looking for a church.""

https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/5-faith-facts-mike-pence-born-again-evangelical-catholic
 
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kinda said:
Just one correction in my post, Mike Pence was raised Catholic, but it looks like he accepted Jesus in college, and has attended an evangelical church, since the 90's.

1. He was raised Catholic and later attended an evangelical megachurch.


"Growing up in an Irish Catholic family that reportedly revered the Kennedys, Pence served as an altar boy and went to parochial school in Columbus, Ind., according to Fehrman."


"Pence has said he made that "commitment to Christ" while taking part in a nondenominational Christian student group in college, according to the journalist. Pence had told The Indianapolis Star that he and his family attended Grace Evangelical Church in the 1990s, but by 2013, he told Fehrman they were "kind of looking for a church.""

https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/ncr-today/5-faith-facts-mike-pence-born-again-evangelical-catholic
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Sorry, but who cares about Pence
What does that have to do with salvation? Pence is just a man like the rest of us.
 
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