Tyre Nichols

Also I asked a question earlier so let me try again.
While I do not condone rioting and destroying property,, Dr Martin Luther King once said that rioting is the voice of an unheard people
I do not believe he was actually condoning rioting but rather just describing it as a symptom of another problem
Since these officers were pretty much immediately arrested and charged, could it be that someone is finally catching on that the public at large will not tolerate anything than Swift and immediate Justice when cops break the law?

Maybe. But it's more likely that the facts were allowed to be made known and were accurate.
When there has been dissension and riots, they have followed a false narrative that even when shown to be false were continued by the press.
This leads one to believe that truth and justice weren't the primary goal, but political gain. Since the alleged culprits are all black, little political gain can be achieved so the political opportunists aren't ginning up dissent.

It's my opinion but I think there are two types of people who become police officers
1 the person who genuinely wants to protect and serve his community
2. The sociopath through seeks to hide behind a badge
Remember Sandra Bland from texas? The officer lost his temper just because she wouldn't put out a cigarette in her own car
She committed no crime. In my opinion that officer should have been charged with kidnapping
All that family from Phoenix who was held at gunpoint because they're 2-year-old daughter shoplifted a doll from the dollar store
So my question is what is it that's making these police officers go all Mogadishu on American citizens?

Dude, I was just reading you earlier. I didn't realize you were not a Christian anymore, bummer to know. I hope and pray you reconsider. I also wonder why non Christians choose to hang out with Christians. But that is me pondering. Maybe, because you see something good about the community.. No need to reply to that, just rambling.

Anyway, I won't even begin to speculate about what kinds of people become officers. I don't want to use a broad brush. I am sure officers are dynamic in who they are and where they come from, and their motives for aspiring to become police officers.

We see that there are bad cops and those that need more training, some lots of training. . I think it is unacceptable to accept abuse of power. I know their job is so challenging. I know good cops dislike bad ones, probably even more than anyone. Imagine how much harder that makes their job. It is toxic to have them in the mix and they know it.



It is sooo shocking and sad what happened, beyond my comprehension.

I do know that I will be praying, giving all my heart and minds attention to hoping the family can heal, heartbreaking, and that we can find ways to protect our society from criminals and from those given the enormous responsibility to protect.

Welcome to the internet.

It's the same across the e-board. I don't have facebook but most of my family does. You get the same stuff there. Everybody has an opinion and most people are allergic to opinions opposite their own.

"Opinions are like farts. Everybody has some and everybody has been around their own so long that they can't smell them any more... But they can still sure tell when other people's stink!"

I consider an internet forum a more accurate cross-section of society than a conversation at a job, church or store. At a job there was at least a little screening before the coworkers got the job, and at the store or church you mostly have people who know each other. On the internet you get a more random, diverse sampling and people are more free to speak their minds without worrying about social censure.

Unfortunately this also makes an internet forum a good place to get your ego fix, pumping up your pride by putting other people down. A lot of people take advantage of that to spout off and deride others.

It's almost like listening to a whole room full of talk radio hosts...

On the flip side, you can quit a forum a lot easier than quitting a job, church or store. You can walk away from this without walking away from an income, supplies or local christian support base.

So yeah. I am capable of carrying on a rational conversation just miss me with the "everyone who doesn't believe like I do is evil and hates America rhetoric that I get from certain individuals on this forum

^this

plus this 👇

If I recall correctly I joined this forum around 2011 or so
I stick around because not everyone here is an edge Lord and can actually have a reasonable conversation

I get it.
‘Lynx just described the internet phenomenon, especially applied to Christians.

The reason I think Lynx it's just trolling and being an edge Lord is because it could be literally any topic like I could say I think Captain crunch is better than fruit loops. His response would be since I don't believe like he does then my opinion on cereal is invalid
This is what it's called a non sequitur

Sorry that you see him as a troll, I think he’s a cool guy with a great sense of humor.

The reason his initial comment got on my nerves was because a man was brutally beaten to death for no apparent reason and his first go to reaction was just...meh.. it's just an excuse to riot
My immediate reaction was to be discussed in horrified at the unnecessary and tragic loss of life. We are not the same

What can I tell you? People are weird and do different things.
Important thing is how you handle yourself. Especially online which holds really no value or little value to your real life stuff.
Maybe that’s why some real life riots happen because people get triggered online.

The topic of cops is an exhausting and pointless topic.
Most cops worldwide are okay but some are complete idiots who should not protect or serve anyone with their psychopathic tendencies.
‘What are you and I gonna change at the end of the day? Nothing. Just find a place where cops are more reasonable and not killers with a badge.
I can’t wait for God to come and make this fallen world whole again from all the pain and suffering.

Maybe better screening processes before hiring them?
Mandatory mental health screenings maybe
Judges can start holding them in contempt when they bring people into court on bogus charges
Actually prosecute them when they are caught lying on the witness stand

A man being pulled out of his car and beaten to death over a traffic infraction is something you would expect to see in a third world country

A man was out of his car and viciously beaten to death over a traffic infraction. My go-to response was to be shocked and horrified
His go to response we'll just to say oh well it's just an excuse for riot's
It's almost as if it doesn't require religion to have empathy for another human being or something
Also you're comply or submit argument is literally the exact opposite because a lot of Christians in America think that anything less than 100% compliance to their demands equates to them being persecuted
Actually most of my friends are Christian and don't behave like some of the people on this forum

Okay, sure.

Again people, this guy redefines terms, like bigotry, and uses that as his cudgel.

He focuses solely on the mainstream media's reportage, which slants left to hard-left, and ignores any balance to such a presentation. With this incomplete or even misinformed narrative, he thinks he has a right to judge and condemn us.

He says we have religious freedom, even if we are forced to service a same-sex wedding or a transition party, because we can still keep our beliefs in our minds. Just don't practice it in public! What this blind man doesn't give two flips about is that forcing us to support such an activity constitutes a sin against our God, which is a denial of our religious freedom. But that's okay, because like the 12th century Catholic Church he'll condemn, he's dogmatically right, and anyone not toeing his fascistic line is to be punished.

People like him call our beliefs innately bigoted, and accuse us of hiding behind our beliefs in order to be haters. "Hate" to the pagan / Leftist means "disagreement" with the pagan / Leftist. You don't DARE have a differing opinion from ours, or we will self-righteously condemn you! However, it is his side that is hiding behind the language of freedom and fairness as a cloak for their hatred against us.

You don't get to redefine words and be taken seriously in a debate. You don't get to tell us that we must sin against our God or we're deserving of destruction. You don't get to tell us how fair- and freedom-minded you are, while you condone the punishment of those who exercise that freedom in a manner you don't like.

As for the original topic, these cops, by everything I've seen up to this point, were in the wrong and will be appropriately dealt with. Good. However, I do not rush to get on these bandwagons for a few reasons.

1. Too often, as in the Ferguson incident for example, there was an extenuating circumstance that the "mainstream" media did not report, like the suspect was actually endangering the life of the police officer. I've come to not take these stories too seriously until the news media in general has vetted them out.

2. This is not a systemic problem, as the Dudes of the world want us to believe. According to the Leftist propaganda outfit, the Washington Post, yes, even they reported that between 2019 and 2020 (I believe this was the two-year range they cited), a total of 30 unarmed black Americans were shot by police officers. 30, across two years, and 830,000 local police nationwide, with millions of interactions between the police and civilians, is hardly a systemic problem. But, if you listen to CNN or MSNBC or The NY Times, and their disciples like Dude, you would think that these incidents are not happening once every 24 days, but that they're happening 24 times PER day.

Until this becomes an actual systemic problem, I am far more concerned about the cultural Marxism infiltrating our schools, how incidents like this are used by media and politicians alike to divide (and conquer) the US, about drag queen freakin' story hour, about racial segregation being reintroduced into our public schools by the same enlightened liberals who condemned it for decades... and how in general public employees and officials and news media personalities are all inverting our nation's moral compass. This is far, far more alarming and dangerous to the survival of the United States than the occasional incident of a few cops who got too big for their badges and will in all likelihood pay a lifelong price.

Is Dude worth debating or arguing with? I've given my best arguments as best as I can. I am not the best debater or apologist for my beliefs, but I've thrown my best logic out there. But, when my counterpart refuses to watch an alternative source provided for balance, or doesn't understand the definitions of bigotry, freedom, or oppression, and continues to close his eyes deliberately, it becomes a waste of time to continue further. His heart needs to be changed and opened for a real, meaningful conversation to take place.