FAITH ALONE?????????

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arthurfleminger

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No doubt that Scripture, the Bible, puts a lot of emphasis and importance on faith. But where does Scripture, the Bible, state 'FAITH ALONE'? TIA
 

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No doubt that Scripture, the Bible, puts a lot of emphasis and importance on faith. But where does Scripture, the Bible, state 'FAITH ALONE'? TIA
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. John 3:36

This does not tell us to not work, it tells us that the works we are to do is not for our salvation. We are told our works show our love of the Lord, and that we will be rewarded for our works, but out salvation is through faith.
 
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God is working in you, so lean on Him for your strength to do all things. Prov. 3:5,6
5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

It's by Grace, but should continue to hold fast to our professin of faith in God!
 

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No doubt that Scripture, the Bible, puts a lot of emphasis and importance on faith. But where does Scripture, the Bible, state 'FAITH ALONE'? TIA
Romans 1:17 KJV
For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
 

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No doubt that Scripture, the Bible, puts a lot of emphasis and importance on faith. But where does Scripture, the Bible, state 'FAITH ALONE'? TIA
2 Timothy 3:15 KJV
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
 
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No doubt that Scripture, the Bible, puts a lot of emphasis and importance on faith. But where does Scripture, the Bible, state 'FAITH ALONE'?
It certainly doesn't say it here:

2 Peter 1

1Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: 2Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 3According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
 

Underwhosewings

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It certainly doesn't say it here:

2 Peter 1

1Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: 2Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 3According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. 10Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 11For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
How did this man get to heaven, was it faith alone?
Luke 23:42 KJV
And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
 
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How did this man get to heaven, was it faith alone?
Luke 23:42 KJV
And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
It never ceases to amaze me how so many people stake their claims on the malefactor on the cross, as if what transpired with him somehow cancels out other portions of scripture that they seemingly don't like, but, sure, I'll play.

Luke 23

39And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. 40But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? 41And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss. 42And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

This malefactor, unlike the other malefactor, sought a salvation far greater than just being delivered from his present predicament on the cross in verse 39, and he therefore rebuked the other malefactor in verse 40.

This malefactor feared God in verse 40.

This malefactor recognized that he was justly condemned or that he was receiving the due reward for his deeds in verses 40-41.

This malefactor recognized Jesus' innocence or that he had done nothing amiss in verse 41.

This malefactor called Jesus "Lord" in verse 42.

This malefactor asked Jesus to remember him when he came into his kingdom in verse 42, so he apparently not only believed in Christ's coming kingdom, but he also apparently believed that Christ would rise from the dead in order to come into his kingdom. He also apparently believed that he would be resurrected from the dead himself one day, and he wanted to ensure his own place in Christ's coming kingdom.

This malefactor, based upon the aforementioned things, received a promise from Jesus that he would be with him in paradise that day.

I'll leave it to you to sort out what all of that means.
 

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No doubt that Scripture, the Bible, puts a lot of emphasis and importance on faith. But where does Scripture, the Bible, state 'FAITH ALONE'? TIA
A literal word for word translation of Paul states it this way. "For we reckon that a man is to be declared righteous by faith, apart from works of law." (Rom 3:28)

There is no definite article in the Greek so it is "law", not "the law", and this refers to any applicable law of God, not just the Law of Moses. Martin Luther was attacked for adding the very legitimate word as seen in his translation:

"So halten wir nun dafür, dass der Mensch gerecht werde ohne des Gesetzes Werke, allein durch den Glauben" (Literally: "We therefore conclude that a man is justified without the works of the law, only through faith").

See https://www.thereformationroom.com/single-post/2017/01/12/Did-Luther-Add-Alone-to-Romans-328
 

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A literal word for word translation of Paul states it this way. "For we reckon that a man is to be declared righteous by faith, apart from works of law." (Rom 3:28)

There is no definite article in the Greek so it is "law", not "the law", and this refers to any applicable law of God, not just the Law of Moses. Martin Luther was attacked for adding the very legitimate word as seen in his translation:

"So halten wir nun dafür, dass der Mensch gerecht werde ohne des Gesetzes Werke, allein durch den Glauben" (Literally: "We therefore conclude that a man is justified without the works of the law, only through faith").

See https://www.thereformationroom.com/single-post/2017/01/12/Did-Luther-Add-Alone-to-Romans-328
Go Martin Luther!!!
And though this world, with devils filled,
Should threaten to undo us,
We will not fear for God hath willed
His truth to triumph through us;
The prince of darkness grim,
We tremble not for him;
His rage we can endure,
For Lo! his doom is sure:
One little word shall fell him.
 
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Good Works (spiritual) are the evidence that true salvation has occured. 1 John, we see in the sheep & goats parable the same concept....sheep had faith and did the work and we're invited in to the sanctuary ....the goats argued they did the work, but the didnt show faith...and were cast out!!
 

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Good Works (spiritual) are the evidence that true salvation has occured. 1 John, we see in the sheep & goats parable the same concept....sheep had faith and did the work and we're invited in to the sanctuary ....the goats argued they did the work, but the didnt show faith...and were cast out!!
Yes…..
Matthew 6:20 KJV
But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

But…
Revelation 5:9 KJV
And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
 

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No doubt that Scripture, the Bible, puts a lot of emphasis and importance on faith. But where does Scripture, the Bible, state 'FAITH ALONE'? TIA
The Bible clearly states in many passages of scripture that we are saved through belief/faith "apart from additions or modifications." (John 1:12; 3:15,16,18,36; 6:40,47; 11:25,26; Acts 10:43; 13:39; 16:31; 26:18; Romans 1:16; 3:22-28; 4:5; 5:1; 10:4; 1 Corinthians 1:21; Galatians 2:16; Ephesians 2:8; 2 Timothy 3:15; 1 John 5:13 etc..).

Now you don't need to add the word "alone" next to "belief/faith" in each of these passages of scripture in order to figure out that the words, "belief/faith" stand alone in connection with receiving eternal life/salvation. Hence, FAITH ALONE. Do these many passages of scripture say belief/faith "plus something else?" Plus works? NO. So then it's faith (rightly understood) in Christ alone.

Not to be confused with an empty profession of faith/dead faith that remains "alone" - barren of works. (James 2:14-26)
 

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No doubt that Scripture, the Bible, puts a lot of emphasis and importance on faith. But where does Scripture, the Bible, state 'FAITH ALONE'? TIA
Do you recall the many times that Christ said "Your faith has saved you, go in peace"? Does that sound like "faith alone"? The Bible is crystal clear: We are saved BY GRACE through faith", and salvation is a gift of God.
 

arthurfleminger

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No doubt that Scripture, the Bible, puts a lot of emphasis and importance on faith. But where does Scripture, the Bible, state 'FAITH ALONE'? TIA
So, what is true and real faith in Jesus? Is it just a mental faith and acceptance that Jesus is Lord, God, and Savior.

Or does faith in Jesus encompass more than that? Does faith in Jesus include not only believing that He is Lord, God, and Savior but also believing in all that He taught us and taught us to do?

What is real and true faith in Jesus? TIA
 

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No doubt that Scripture, the Bible, puts a lot of emphasis and importance on faith. But where does Scripture, the Bible, state 'FAITH ALONE'? TIA
Romans 1:17
“For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”

Habakkuk 2:4
“Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.”

Hebrews 10:38
“Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.”

Galatians 3:11
“But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.”

Hebrews 11:6
“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”

Philippians 3:9
“And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:”

When we connect the dots, we see that Salvation is completely by faith in the shed blood of Jesus. Works follow after.

We come by faith, and we live by faith. Works are the fruit and evidence which results. Works do not play a part in receiving salvation.
 

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It never ceases to amaze me how so many people stake their claims on the malefactor on the cross, as if what transpired with him somehow cancels out other portions of scripture that they seemingly don't like, but, sure, I'll play.
Pride and trust in one's works will keep one out of Heaven.
The thief paints a beautiful picture of faith and humility. It is a bold and strong statement and lesson for all of us.

Ephesians 2:9
“Not of works, lest any man should boast.”
 

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Pride and trust in one's works will keep one out of Heaven.
The thief paints a beautiful picture of faith and humility. It is a bold and strong statement and lesson for all of us.

Ephesians 2:9
“Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

Not having the imputed righteousness of Jesus will keep one out of heaven period, there does not need to be any show of works to be justified.
 

arthurfleminger

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Romans 1:17
“For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”

Habakkuk 2:4
“Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.”

Hebrews 10:38
“Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.”

Galatians 3:11
“But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.”

Hebrews 11:6
“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”

Philippians 3:9
“And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:”

When we connect the dots, we see that Salvation is completely by faith in the shed blood of Jesus. Works follow after.

We come by faith, and we live by faith. Works are the fruit and evidence which results. Works do not play a part in receiving salvation.

Faith alone? Or is it Faith and Love? Doesn't the New Testament say that we can have faith enough to move mountains, but without love we are just noisy/clanging cymbals?

But God says if you don’t have love in your life, all that you know is worthless. 3. If you don’t live a life of love, nothing you believe will matter. The Bible says, “Even if I had the gift of faith so that I could speak to a mountain and make it move, I would still be worth nothing at all without love” (1 Corinthians 13:2b TLB).
Romans 1:17
“For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”

Habakkuk 2:4
“Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.”

Hebrews 10:38
“Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.”

Galatians 3:11
“But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.”

Hebrews 11:6
“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”

Philippians 3:9
“And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:”

When we connect the dots, we see that Salvation is completely by faith in the shed blood of Jesus. Works follow after.

We come by faith, and we live by faith. Works are the fruit and evidence which results. Works do not play a part in receiving salvation.

Faith alone? Which is more important Faith or Love? The New Testament tells us that faith is very important, but it never cites 'faith alone'. In fact, the New Testament, God's Word, tells us very clearly that love is more important. God tells us that you can have all the faith in the world, enough to move mountains, but without love you are just a noisy/clanging symbol.

But God says if you don’t have love in your life, all that you know is worthless. 3. If you don’t live a life of love, nothing you believe will matter. The Bible says, “Even if I had the gift of faith so that I could speak to a mountain and make it move, I would still be worth nothing at all without love” (1 Corinthians 13:2b TLB).

And, Oyster, I agree with your post, about the importnce of faith butl, to be clear the Bible never cites 'faith alone'. If so, show me the words 'faith alone' in Scripture. Thanks.