Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

That's a great story. Did you place yourself in Christ?

It is a testimony. And again, thank you for asking.

My, you are so full of rage.

The gospel does not conform to the will of men.

Would you mind answering my question?

Are you a bonafide Bible scholar?

Oh, that's the beauty of Truth. You can present it kind and gentle but the one receiving will feel like it is the harshest thing ever said to them.

It's worth a great deal. I'm obviously new and therefore have few posts here.

Further, it is priceless to know it takes very little to cause you to resort to disparaging remarks in an effort to dismiss the perspective of those you find yourself unequipped to meet on equal ground in a civil discourse.

Thank you.

I appreciate someone being honest in their demonstration of character when discussing the sacred words of God.
It assists on my end to know to whom I am speaking when discussing the true gospel of Jesus the Christ

It's worth a great deal. I'm obviously new and therefore have few posts here.

Further, it is priceless to know it takes very little to cause you to resort to disparaging remarks in an effort to dismiss the perspective of those you find yourself unequipped to meet on equal ground in a civil discourse.

Thank you.

I appreciate someone being honest in their demonstration of character when discussing the sacred words of God.
It assists on my end to know to whom I am speaking when discussing the true gospel of Jesus the Christ

How many bonafide Bible scholars attend Christian Chat forum?

Great. So now you can start posting here. And I will start bookmarking those posts of yours which I find to be examples of outstanding Biblical scholarship.

Its a win-win bro. Thanks for participating.

And what exactly is your definition of "bonafide Bible scholars"? Would you dismission the Galilean apostles as "unlearned"?

Thank you for that. However, I would not rank myself as one worthy of such a label. I'm but a blessed woman taking life one step at a time in the light of God and wherever it may lead.

And sometimes I am also blessed to find like minded souls to share with on that journey.

May the blessings of the Father surround you and yours.

If I may. I wouldn't say I placed myself in Christ as much as I would submit my care into my rescuers arm. I 'reached" for God, even if flailing blindly rather than give up with no hope. Would you consider that "placing myself in Him'? or more accurately "placing myself in His care and He then pulled me into His bosom?

Disagree. The truth is made clear using proper hermeneutics, not violating the context and careful handling of the Greek.

Those people you describe in the first part of your posting are not Christians.

Their example does not vacate the true gospel.

sadly, SOme do not understand the difference between Confess and repent.

Brother, my grandparents would be considered uneducated. My grandfather could not read, my taught herself to read by reading the Bible. I believe we can understand the Word just as it is written. When the Word says "believe on Lord and you will be saved" I don't think they had someone there to explain the hermenrutics of it. They took God at His Word believed and were saved. It is. just.that. simple. Behold I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me” We don't believe like the Catholics, that we need someone else to read the Word and tell us what's in there. We don't need a Bible scholar to tell us what the Word says. I think a great deal of my pastor, but I don't need him to interpret the Word for me. I believe I can read it for myself and understand it. I'm against deeper learning, reading books and commentaries. But I don't need that to know what the Word is saying. They didn't even have the Bible at certain periods of time, but people were still saved by faith and gained their reward without a Bible scholar, hermeneutics or a Bible collage and best selling books.

Now you are judging. And that's the fork in road we come to. If someone sins in a major way you would say " they were never saved in the first place." You're making a judgement call. I had shared a pastor, whose ministry I sat under, left his wife for his music minister. He has married her and continues to harass is actual wife saying she is the one to blame for his affair. I would say he has turned away from the truth, back slidden. You would say he was never saved in the first place. But that is a judgement call. The Word says you can turn back, you can look back and can stop following and take your own path.

Think about about what you said for a second. If you confess and don't actually change your mind about it, is your lip service of any value to God? If you actually do change your mind about sin and, of course, change your ways as well, confessing your sin to God, isn't that the heart of what confession is?

There is no difference between confession and repentance. God already knows what you did. What God is looking for is your return to walking in the light like John says. Confession is intended to be used for those who are ready to forsake whatever sin it is they are genuinely repenting of.

1 John 1
7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.