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cv5

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Those who do not understand ALL that Jesus accomplished on the cross.
Since when did Jesus "accomplish" invalidating and nullifying massive quantities of OT prophecies?

Luk 24:44
And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

This includes FUTURE EVENTS soon to come to pass.....including Dan 9.
 

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Put the whole quote out there for all to see.
Never said Jesus is the antichrist.
So much dishonest in what you say in your attacks.
If you quote some one give the entire quote.
You want to review this again? Here you go.....

https://christianchat.com/threads/4-hours-to-erect-the-temporary-temple.209659/post-5020299

"The "he" of Dan 9:27 refers to "the prince that shall come" of Dan 9:26. This prince person does this: "he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, AND for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate" BOTH EVENTS one right after the other!

Mat 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the (the sacrifice and the oblation to cease AND) abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

@RichMan said: "He, Jesus, caused the sacrifices and the oblation to cease" (per Dan 9:27!!!!)"
 
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Enough of this.
It is impossible to have a discussion with dishonest people.
People who lie about what you say.
People who misquote you.
People who quote only part of what you say.
 

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Correct. Where Jesus REINSTITUTES ritual sacrifices.
@RichMan is promoting the preterist rubbish that Jesus "causes them to cease".
You're right. Sacrifices will be re-instituted because there will still be humans on earth (and giving birth to human children) entering the Millenial who retain the sin nature and must be reminded of that.
 

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You're right. Sacrifices will be re-instituted because there will still be humans on earth (and giving birth to human children) entering the Millenial who retain the sin nature and must be reminded of that.
Totally agree......:giggle:
 

cv5

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Enough of this.
It is impossible to have a discussion with dishonest people.
People who lie about what you say.
People who misquote you.
People who quote only part of what you say.
Protest away. The fact remains you have been caught red-handed and cannot wriggle out of it.

"The "he" of Dan 9:27 refers to "the prince that shall come" of Dan 9:26. This prince person does this: "he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, AND for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate" BOTH EVENTS one right after the other!

Mat 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the (the sacrifice and the oblation to cease AND) abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand

@RichMan said: "He, Jesus, caused the sacrifices and the oblation to cease" (per Dan 9:27!!!!)"
 

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Disearnment is a spiritual thing. But many times the evidence can be as plain as the nose on your face.
Jesus said you would know them by their fruits.
Reread the last 2 pages here & see what true colors are showing by looking at their attitudes instead.
It might shock some readers.
 
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Disearnment is a spiritual thing. But many times the evidence can be as plain as the nose on your face.
Jesus said you would know them by their fruits.
Reread the last 2 pages here & see what true colors are showing by looking at their attitudes instead.
It might shock some readers.
After a year on this forum, I am reminded why I stopped listing to CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and other so call news people.
Some have an agenda and in order to support that agenda they miss quote what people say, post only a part what a person says, or twist what a person says to not only support their agenda, but to make that person they disagree with an evil , evil person.
I have trouble understanding why this is allowed on a "Christian Forum".
Whatever. I am out of here and will never recommend any Believer come here.
 

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After a year on this forum, I am reminded why I stopped listing to CNN, Fox, MSNBC, and other so call news people.
Some have an agenda and in order to support that agenda they miss quote what people say, post only a part what a person says, or twist what a person says to not only support their agenda, but to make that person they disagree with an evil , evil person.
I have trouble understanding why this is allowed on a "Christian Forum".
Whatever. I am out of here and will never recommend any Believer come here.
All we want you to do is recant your assertion that Jesus is the antichrist of Dan 9:27.
Is that too much to ask?
 

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Meanwhile He will always keep His word and His covenant with His Covenant People.:)(y)
Who are His covenant people ?

Gal_3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Act_3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

They broke the covenant God did not. The Jewish leaders and nonbelievers murdered the Son. Yes He gave His life.

Mat 21:33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
Mat 21:34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
Mat 21:35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
Mat 21:36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
Mat 21:37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
Mat 21:38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
Mat 21:39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
Mat 21:40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
 

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Who are His covenant people ?

Gal_3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Act_3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

They broke the covenant God did not. The Jewish leaders and nonbelievers murdered the Son. Yes He gave His life.

Mat 21:33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
Mat 21:34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
Mat 21:35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
Mat 21:36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
Mat 21:37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
Mat 21:38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
Mat 21:39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
Mat 21:40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
And? What do you think is the future for the nation Israel, the house of Jacob? Will it come to pass according the massive OT prophecies?
 

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And? What do you think is the future for the nation Israel, the house of Jacob? Will it come to pass according the massive OT prophecies?
Forgiveness of sin for evert person is in Christ .
 

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Correct. Where Jesus REINSTITUTES ritual sacrifices.
@RichMan is promoting the preterist rubbish that Jesus "causes them to cease".

Why would He re-instute the ritual sacrifice? Wow

Perhaps read the book of Hebrews.
 

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Forgiveness of sin for evert person is in Christ .
Aaahhhh I see. So you are telling us that Israel gets kicked the curb, God's promises to Abraham have been abandoned, and massive quantities of OT prophecies have been "broken" as regards the Nation Israel?

I think not.....

Luk 21:24
“And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Luk 22:16
“for I say to you, I will no longer eat of it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.”

Act 3:21
“whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.
 

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Enough of this.
It is impossible to have a discussion with dishonest people.
People who lie about what you say.
People who misquote you.
People who quote only part of what you say.
Yup!
 

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Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Where does one read antichrist in Daniel? The scriptures' dont say it mankind has injected that idea into the Word. I believe it was God that sent the armies to destroy Jerusalem and the temple 70 AD . Judaism is antichrist .
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
 

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Why would He re-instute the ritual sacrifice? Wow

Perhaps read the book of Hebrews.
And that is your problem. You cherry pick and then kick Israel to the curb.
Try reading Ezekiel chapters 40 thru 48. And every other prophecy associated with this event. Which is an utterly massive quantity.

Stay tuned......70th week coming at 'ya.
God willing I will be raptured, as the Scripture saith.
 

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Aaahhhh I see. So you are telling us that Israel gets kicked the curb, God's promises to Abraham have been abandoned, and massive quantities of OT prophecies have been "broken" as regards the Nation Israel?

I think not.....

Luk 21:24
“And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

Luk 22:16
“for I say to you, I will no longer eat of it until it is fulfilled in the kingdom of God.”

Act 3:21
“whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.
No that is not at all what i am saying ... They , who ever the they may be, were sent the The Son of God .

Side note some folks have eye distortions where letters jump move squiggle out throwing in extra large font can make posts difficult to read.
 

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No that is not at all what i am saying ... They , who ever the they may be, were sent the The Son of God .

Side note some folks have eye distortions where letters jump move squiggle out throwing in extra large font can make posts difficult to read.
Tell us plainly:
1) Does THE NATION Israel become a sanctified nation when the Second Coming comes to pass?
2) Do they have a millennial culture with priests, a Temple, and sacrifices?
3) Do they inhabit the land to the boundaries promised my God to Abraham?
 

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Tell us plainly:
1) Does THE NATION Israel become a sanctified nation when the Second Coming comes to pass? No
2) Do they have a millennial culture with priests, a Temple, and sacrifices? that would be blaspheme they may but to what god?
3) Do they inhabit the land to the boundaries promised my God to Abraham?
They dont today i doubt it .
I will ask you plainly :
Who do you describe as the nation of Israel ?
Do you believe Jesus was the perfect Sacrifice ?
Do you believe this passage as written? for context look it up
Jos_21:43 And the LORD gave unto Israel all the land which he sware to give unto their fathers; and they possessed it, and dwelt therein.
Jos_21:44 And the LORD gave them rest round about, according to all that he sware unto their fathers: and there stood not a man of all their enemies before them; the LORD delivered all their enemies into their hand.

Thanks for making NATION not so big ! :)