CJ Lovik with another prophecy backing up his 2030 return of Jesus

OK. I think that is quite a stretch given v. 36, 37, 42 etc. were it seems that the world is at relative peace before it all hits the fan at the opening of the 1st thru 6th seal. By mid-trib the earth is in seriously bad shape and a huge portion of the population has been killed.

I have changed my view a couple of times, but as of now my estimation is to roll waaaaayyy back to verse 2.
Consequently the term "this generation" refers to the line of Jacob, who will endure ALL of biblical prophecy.
They will survive 70AD, the Church age all the way thru the 70th week tribulation to the SC.

The statement of verse 34 then becomes an iron clad guarantee that the Jewish people will be miraculously preserved in effect.

Mat 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

I was a 1948 guy for a long time. And....it may turn out to be that way in the end. Who really knows for sure?

The first 3.5 years is peace.. the great tribulation is the last 3.5 years.. Christ does not enter the throne room in the begin of the 70th week.

Disagree. The first 3.5 years are absolute mayhem and destruction globally. Mid trib is likely fifth trumpet/1st woe. Some time after the 1st thru 6th seals have been opened.

Rev 6:7
And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
Rev 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

See chapter 8......the first 4 trumpets almost destroy the planet.

Rev 9:1
And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.

He does not even open the first seal until after the rapture and people are praying for God to avenge the deaths of the martyres.

The great tribulation happens AFTER the abomination of desolation.. That is when Gods wrath is poured on the earth..

Well, as I have shown, there is MASSIVE death and destruction BEFORE the AoD/mid-trib.

Yes we are raptured before the 1st seal. Yes the GT happens after the AoD.

I have not seen anything.. I disagree.

Paul said in thess, that there is peace and destruction. Then mayhem

that peace is the first 3.5 years..

You are definitely wrong about that. The sudden "birth pangs" that Paul and Jesus spoke about are the START of the 70th week and equal the ch 6 seals. And Paul says clearly that we are raptured BEFORE the birth pains begin.

I will post something later to prove to you that this is definitely the case.

that peace is the first 3.5 years..

Seal #2 is that peace is taken from the earth... and there is not 3.5 years between Seal #1 and Seal #2

-3 And when the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” Revelation 6:4 Then another horse went forth. It was bright red, and its rider was granted permission to take away peace from the earth and to make men slay one another. And he was given a great sword. (biblehub.com)




(Seal #2 is well before the mid-trib point which is at the "5th Trumpet / 1st Woe unto the earth" point in time [the AOD time-slot]).

They are the begining of sorrows but the end is not yet

Seal #2 is that peace is taken from the earth... and there is not 3.5 years between Seal #1 and Seal #2

-3 And when the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” Revelation 6:4 Then another horse went forth. It was bright red, and its rider was granted permission to take away peace from the earth and to make men slay one another. And he was given a great sword. (biblehub.com)




(Seal #2 is well before the mid-trib point which is at the "5th Trumpet / 1st Woe unto the earth" point in time [the AOD time-slot]).

Happy to hear from you buddy. We desperately need your help around here.....

"the end" [in this context] is the end of the tribulation period (i.e. Christ's Second Coming to the earth / Rev19), not the start of the Trib years

Thats what happens when you belief system is questionable. You need all the help you can get

Thanks for your opinion. But seal 2 is the start of wars between people and nations..

Right. So you do agree that peace has been taken from the earth. And the fourth seal relates to 1/4 of the world population dying, a worldwide crisis that has not been equaled since perhaps the black plague.

Not sure what you mean, but TDW's inputs are pure gold and always appreciated. Nobody here has mastered the rapture and tribulation like he has IMO.

All of which occures in the "day of the lord. After the abomination of desolation takes place. When Israel is told to run to the mountains, where God will protect them, causing Satan to go after her offspring

Aaahhhh no. Nobody else here and no commentator on the planet thinks the 2nd or 4th seal occurs past the 3.5 year mark.
Give it time and some more study. Its really not a big deal to be wrong about the exact timing of the trib, but why not apprehend the truth of the matter?

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