Genesis 1:1 What is your interpretation?

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Cameron143

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Read my post immediately above. Are you and he so obsessed with someone's sexuality that you can't discuss the OP subject: Genesis 1:1 and its interpretation?
I was merely responding to your comment. I could care less about a person's sexuality. Just, as in all things, be honest.
 
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You commented about Deacon1964's post: According to a past study from Yale, I believe, homosexuality is a choice. There are a plethora of factors involved. The bottom line is that homosexuality is a choice and no one is born with it." So your claim that you could care less about a person's sexuality" simply isn't true. As in all things, you should be be honest.
 

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You commented about Deacon1964's post: According to a past study from Yale, I believe, homosexuality is a choice. There are a plethora of factors involved. The bottom line is that homosexuality is a choice and no one is born with it." So your claim that you could care less about a person's sexuality" simply isn't true. As in all things, you should be be honest.
I made a truthful comment about sexuality in general. Each person will give an account to God individually so I don't care what choice an individual makes personally.
If God places a homosexual in my life I will share the gospel with them as I would anyone else.
No reason to impugn my character. While others have sometimes done this to you, I have not. And knowing how it makes you feel, why would you then do the same to another?
 
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I made a truthful comment about sexuality in general. Each person will give an account to God individually so I don't care what choice an individual makes personally.
If God places a homosexual in my life I will share the gospel with them as I would anyone else.
No reason to impugn my character. While others have sometimes done this to you, I have not. And knowing how it makes you feel, why would you then do the same to another?
You are the one who wrote "you should be honest", so why do you impugn someone's character?

Of course, this has nothing to do with Genesis 1:1, the OP subject. Why are you and others discussing sexuality at all?

I know several people who have same-sex preferences (lesbians and homosexuals). They are, without exception, very fine, caring, and decent people, which is more than I can say about some who profess Christianity.

I won't discuss sexuality any more in this thread, except to comment, if necessary, taht it has nothing to do with the OP.

Genesis 1:1, " In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." The question is asked: what is your interpretation. That is the OP subject.

You and others need to get your mind away from sex and onto God's word and its interpretation.
 

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Hebrews 9:9,11-12,14 KJV
Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; [11] But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; [12] Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. [14] How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

He said “touch me not” so that He could offer himself “without spot”
The blood of Christ is there on the mercy seat for us.
“by his own blood he entered”
I think “Don’t cling to me,” is a better translation.
 

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Just wondering about some input to stimulate this group. Does it support science?
What do you think about entropy? Did God introduce it after original sin or did He sustain Adam and Eve through His energy?
 

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I think “Don’t cling to me,” is a better translation.
It was an act of worship to hold him by the feet.
After…..
“by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place”
Then when He afterwards appeared to them, they could now show their adoration and worship.
Matthew 28:9 KJV
And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
 

Sipsey

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It was an act of worship to hold him by the feet.
After…..
“by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place”
Then when He afterwards appeared to them, they could now show their adoration and worship.
Matthew 28:9 KJV
And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
I may have answered too hastily, my apologies.
 
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Posts like that contribute nothing and are not conducive to healthy discussion.
Posts like "The Bible says that Creation was accomplished in one week 6000 years ago. That is bedrock fact that all science should be built upon" contribute nothing and are not conducive to healthy discussion.

Your opinion of how the earth was created doesn't make it "bedrock fact". The Bible is not a scientific tome. Science is based on observable facts that can be proven.

Two definitions...

Science is the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.

Science is a systematic endeavor that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.

Neither of these definitions apply to Genesis 1.
 

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Your opinion of how the earth was created doesn't make it "bedrock fact".
The Bible's account is bedrock fact, not my opinion. To resist and reject the Word of God is foolhardy.

The Bible is not a scientific tome.
God's Word is the foundation of ALL things. Science that is not built upon the revelations of God is built upon shifting sand.

Science is based on observable facts that can be proven.
I love you Jaybo, and I'm sure that your IQ is sky high, but you really flubbed it here. Macro-Evolution's heavily flawed hypothesis and theories are neither observable nor provable. The only thing that can be proven about them is that they contradict the Bible and are therefore wrong.

Two definitions...

Science is the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.

Science is a systematic endeavor that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe.
The "science-so-called" that pertains to this discussion is based merely upon man's wandering wonderings. It is not true science, and that should be evident to a man of your astute and acute acumen.
 
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The Bible's account is bedrock fact, not my opinion. To resist and reject the Word of God is foolhardy.


God's Word is the foundation of ALL things. Science that is not built upon the revelations of God is built upon shifting sand.


I love you Jaybo, and I'm sure that your IQ is sky high, but you really flubbed it here. Macro-Evolution's heavily flawed hypothesis and theories are neither observable nor provable. The only thing that can be proven about them is that they contradict the Bible and are therefore wrong.

The "science-so-called" that pertains to this discussion is based merely upon man's wandering wonderings. It is not true science, and that should be evident to a man of your astute and acute acumen.
It makes me very sad that you don't understand either the true meaning of Genesis 1 or the true definition of science. You can believe whatever you want but to call Genesis 1 "bedrock fact" is clearly wrong. As a single example, Genesis 3-5 says, "And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day" but there were no stars, sun, or moon, so where did that first day's light come from?

One must understand and interpret the Bible, starting with the fact that it is not a scientific textbook. Saying that "Science that is not built upon the revelations of God is built upon shifting sand" shows that you clearly do not understand what science is.

I won't discuss this with you any further. We disagree, so let's leave it at that.
 
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Psalms 36:9 “For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light.”


Genesis 1 is bedrock fact.

I agree.
So what did you do? Search the Bible for the word "light" and chose that one line from Psalms? LOL!!!

Genesis is not "bedrock fact". It is an allegory to explain our relation to the world He created.

Let's look at the beginning of Genesis: "When God began to create the heavens and the earth, the earth was complete chaos, and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God swept over the face of the waters. Then God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And God saw that the light was good, and God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, the first day."

This defines the Biblical day: evening comes first, then morning. There was no sun, no moon, no stars, so where did the light come from? What was it source? What was its character? Explain that "bedrock fact".

Where did the earth come from? What was the "complete chaos"? Where did the waters-- the deep -- come from? Some sort of pre-creation? Explain those "bedrock facts".
 

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Just wondering about some input to stimulate this group. Does it support science?
Who cares if it supports what passes for science?
Timothy was warned...

""O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen."

A big problem with modern " science" is that it suffers from the same problems that the highly educated Paul warned about.
At the time of his writing, Hinduism and the various eastern religions were based on an evolutionary cosmology of origins.
The same religious views were brought into the modern world and sold as the "scientific" model. Since western culture likes to worship anything that calls itself scientific, they bought it like ice cream in the summer, without questions. However, science is usually wrong about most hypotheses. The "theory of evolution" and "day age theory" neither follows the Bible, nor the scientific method. It is only a false religious view that common tators like to flee to in order to appear to accommodate this popular religion of evolutionism.
 
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Who cares if it supports what passes for science?
Timothy was warned...

""O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called: Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen."

A big problem with modern " science" is that it suffers from the same problems that the highly educated Paul warned about.
At the time of his writing, Hinduism and the various eastern religions were based on an evolutionary cosmology of origins.
The same religious views were brought into the modern world and sold as the "scientific" model. Since western culture likes to worship anything that calls itself scientific, they bought it like ice cream in the summer, without questions. However, science is usually wrong about most hypotheses. The "theory of evolution" and "day age theory" neither follows the Bible, nor the scientific method. It is only a false religious view that common tators like to flee to in order to appear to accommodate this popular religion of evolutionism.
Why are you deliberately falsifying God's word by adding extra-Biblical babble to it? Revelation 22:18, "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book"
 

oyster67

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Genesis is not "bedrock fact". It is an allegory to explain our relation to the world He created.
You speak like an atheist who relegates God's Word to a book of myths and fables. Do you claim to be born again? Do you claim to reverence and revere the Bible? God can generate light by any means He so chooses. He does have to follow a list of rules generated by Jaybo and friends. God did exactly what He said He did. God did it exactly when He said He did it.

The rest of you have a choice; follow the Word of God or follow the Fables of Jaybo. Macro Evolution and Darwinism are fables of the most unscientific and ludicrous sort. It is closer to a Satanic religion - an anti-Bible.
 

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Where did the earth come from? What was the "complete chaos"? Where did the waters-- the deep -- come from? Some sort of pre-creation? Explain those "bedrock facts".
God spoke all things into existence, formed man from the dust of Earth, and breathed life into him. That is bedrock fact.
 

Eli1

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So this is another Young Earth Creationism thread eh?
Anybody have any thoughts about entropy?


What do you think about entropy? Did God introduce it after original sin or did He sustain Adam and Eve through His energy?