Abortion Replaces the Flag

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Wrap your head around this, I have known many parents who did not abort their baby who had a fetal abnormality and guess what the baby survived and thrived.

But let's move on shall we, to more cogent, coherent, evidenced based arguments.

Appealing to outlier situations and extreme cases does not make an argument nor does it justify abortion on demand.

I am waiting for your moral and scientific argument which supports abortion on demand until birth.

You speak in generalities but are never quite forthcoming with your full position.

So do you have a well thought out argument? And do you have a clear position any limits/non limits to abortion you can articulate clearly?
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I have stated my position in a number of posts, so there is no need for me to repeat them. Go back and re-read what I have written.

BTW, I sincerely doubt that you have known many parents who did not abort their baby who had a fetal abnormality and guess what the baby survived and thrived. There are unfortunately certain fetal anomalies that always result in death, e.g., having non-functioning lungs or a defective heart. Appealing to outlier situations and extreme cases does not make a valid argument.

The decision to abort a pregnancy should be left entirely to the woman and her doctor, with consent of her husband. Period.
 
Wansvic

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The decision to abort a pregnancy should be left entirely to the woman and her doctor, with consent of her husband. Period.
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It is mindboggling that anyone who professes to be a Christian would even attempt to justify murder. God will hold accountable those who usurp His authority and make the decision to murder their unborn children. (unless they repent) Whether a person chooses to accept it or not is irrelevant; the truth is the truth.
 
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It is mindboggling that anyone who professes to be a Christian would even attempt to justify murder. God will hold accountable those who usurp His authority and make the decision to murder their unborn children. (unless they repent) Whether a person chooses to accept it or not is irrelevant; the truth is the truth.
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LOL!!! Abortion is not murder. It is a medical procedure to terminate a pregnancy. Not all pregnancies result in a viable fetus. Have you ever witnessed a newborn struggle for life, then suffer an agonizing death because of a fetal anomaly that makes survival impossible? If you ever witness that -- even once -- you would be in favor of abortion so that the newborn doesn't have to suffer and die.

Whether you choose to accept that or not is irrelevant; the truth is the truth.

BTW, please explain to me why God permitted Herod to kill all the boys two years of age and younger right after Jesus was born. And/or why did He kill all the firstborn in Egypt, humans and animals?
 
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Abortion is a medical procedure in the same way that Josef Mengele was doing medical research.
 
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Wansvic said:
It is mindboggling that anyone who professes to be a Christian would even attempt to justify murder. God will hold accountable those who usurp His authority and make the decision to murder their unborn children. (unless they repent) Whether a person chooses to accept it or not is irrelevant; the truth is the truth.
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But it's not murder you see. After all it's not a person, it's just fetal tissue. (I hope you can tell I'm being sarcastic)
 
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On another note, the OP -- "abortion replaces the flag" -- is nonsensical to the extreme. It is nothing more than a warped political slogan, comparing a valid medical procedure to hyper-patriotism.
 
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But it's not murder you see. After all it's not a person, it's just fetal tissue. (I hope you can tell I'm being sarcastic)
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It is neither. It is a zygote or an embryo or a fetus, depending on its stage of development.
 
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Why would someone, anyone, be pro abortion? Even pro abortionists are embarrassed to say that and so they say they are "pro choice".

Righteous judgement is "as you have done it will be done to you". Someone is going to come in who is pro choice and choose to kill 60 million Americans.
 
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It is neither. It is a zygote or an embryo or a fetus, depending on its stage of development.
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Yeah, but whatever you call it, you're in favor of killing it, right?
 
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What I find most offensive is when the pro abortionists have a fit when you show pictures of the aborted babies. It is as though they demand that people close their eyes to the sin and murder.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. This lie that it is simply a "medical procedure" is designed to deceive and make it more palatable to the parents.
 
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I just want to say that it always makes me laugh when people say "I'm putting you on ignore" but then several post later quotes something the person they claim to be ignoring says.

:LOL:
 
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Come Lord Jesus, set right all that is wrong.
 
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I just want to say that it always makes me laugh when people say "I'm putting you on ignore" but then several post later quotes something the person they claim to be ignoring says.

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ignoring is an option. I selectively read the post and if I'm interested I respond, otherwise I just ignore it. Here is a good definition: to not consider something, or to not let it influence you.
 
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What I find most offensive is when the pro abortionists have a fit when you show pictures of the aborted babies. It is as though they demand that people close their eyes to the sin and murder.

Sunlight is the best disinfectant. This lie that it is simply a "medical procedure" is designed to deceive and make it more palatable to the parents.
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Claiming that "This lie that it is simply a "medical procedure" is designed to deceive and make it more palatable to the parents" is itself a lie. It is a valid medical procedure unless anti-abortionists make it illegal, forcing the victim to seek a dangerous "back alley" procedure.
 
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ZNP said:
Why would someone, anyone, be pro abortion? Even pro abortionists are embarrassed to say that and so they say they are "pro choice".

Righteous judgement is "as you have done it will be done to you". Someone is going to come in who is pro choice and choose to kill 60 million Americans.
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I have read many posts that I consider to be insane, but this tops them all.
 
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I have never meant anyone who is "pro abortion". That is total nonsense. Abortion is a valid medical procedure to terminate a pregnancy. It is as stupid as saying that a person is anti-surgery. If a medical procedure is necessary, it is necessary. Period.
 
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It is neither. It is a zygote or an embryo or a fetus, depending on its stage of development.
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Humans beget humans >> >> scientific fact.

Zygote, embryo and fetus are stages in the life span of a human, Mr. Mensa, just like old age.

At conception it has all of its genetic information (DNA) >>> scientific fact.
 
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