Believing a lie

I read from commentaries and interpretations, that unsaved people are more easily deceived into believing a lie.

Are there any examples in the Bible that suggest that saved people can believe a lie. From our adversary,

Only by deceiving yourself, no one else can deceive you, only when you deceive yourself, can be deceived by others.

each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire.

James 1. ( paraphrase.).

Yes, many believers today believe the Satanic lie of the secret pre-tribulation advent and rapture that the Lord Jesus warned His Body, The Church, against! Matt 24v23-31,48-51.

He said that only false prophets and teachers will teach that He will come secretly before the Great Tribulation for the Church, and that He will come AFTER the Great Tribulation in power and great glory with every eye seeing Him for it! Titus 2v13, 2Peter 3v12, Rev 1v7.

Paul's letter to the Galatians addresses saved people who have believed the lie that Christians must be circumcised and adhere to the Law as given through Moses.

Of course it is possible. Peter was influenced by Satan to say something to Christ which he should not have said. You can look up the passage for yourself.

That is HIGHLY DEBATABLE! What if you are being deceived into making this false accusation?

1 Peter 5:8 "Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour."

Part of being sober is to be free of illusions. I know many believers who suffer from serious delusions; that is, persistent illusions.

Eph 4: 14 KJV "That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro , and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the slight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive."

Unbelievers will be given over to delusion and deception because they have rejected the Love of the truth by which they would have been saved...

(2 Thessalonians 2:2-12) "That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. {3} Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; {4} Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. {5} Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? {6} And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. {7} For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. {8} And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: {9} Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, {10} And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. {11} And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: {12} That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

My view

A believer can certainly be deceived ------for example------ a Babe in Christ ---a Carnal Christian is far from Being Mature in their knowledge of the Scripture and how the enemy works ------so Satan can play havoc with that person and deceive them -----

Our job after we are saved is to know the scripture well so we can tell when we are being deceived ----- and know how our adversary works so we can win the battle of the mind -----

Satan's only job is to keep you from God and His word -----and he can only attack the mind of the believer ----and God gives clear instructions on how to defeat the enemy -----

So again it is very important to know the scriptures well ---so you don't get deceived ---and have the knowledge on how to keep your mind safe from any deception ------

It all sounds back to front if I'm being honest, how is it truly possible to believe Jesus died for your sins or believe Jesus is lord and saviour or that he rose from the grave, with out first understanding why,

For example a new babe in Christ wants to be baptised and recieve the holy spirit but has little knowledge of Christ, who he is in character or more importantly, the reason why Jesus lord and saviour had to die in the first place.

The new believer gets asked in baptism do you believe Jesus died for your sins, he just sort of says yes hoping to recieve salvation, but all tho he says he believes he has not said it with true belief.

The holy spirit would know this,
He then studies scripture and cant understand any of it so where is the belief ?.

Would it not be better to study first befor being asked if you believe.

Those are my concerns, I had knowledge befor my baptism,
My dad was always concerned about this,

One last thing there's no point in replying to me I'm leaving but I wish you well,

1 Jn 1: 1 KJV "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits, whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

Jam 5: 16 KJV "Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth; and one convert him; let him know, that he which converteth a sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and hide a multitude of sins."

And to prove the above verse, 1 Jn 5: 19 KJV "If any man see his brother sin a sin that is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it."

(1 Jn 5: 16 is an awesome and most powerful scripture for dealing with our brothers and sisters in Christ!)