Ukraine the bad guy?

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JohnDB

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It's not Biden doing this....it's the US Congress. Take it up with Congress. Biden is following the laws they made. He can't do otherwise. Sure he's getting the blame/credit but he really doesn't have much to do with it. All the member nations who signed on to the NPA are holding up their end of the treaty. From the UK to all of the EU and NATO. Only Egypt and Tukey are not.
 

cv5

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Old video from a year ago. Ukraine currently has several missile defense systems around Kyiv in layered, overlapping protection that extend a huge distance north, east and south. Everything from iron Dome, patriot, and the German system that I can't remember the name of.
Those few remaining AD's could easily be neutralized (by several different means) in 24 hours very easily.
 

JohnDB

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Those few remaining AD's could easily be neutralized (by several different means) in 24 hours very easily.
What about the manpads and Phalanx systems? There's a LOT of stuff....even AA systems are capable of taking out missiles and drones depending upon the radar systems....especially since they just got the latest tech with counter battery systems to protect the airspace above. Sorry to disappoint you with this.

And why are you hoping for the demise of the innocent women and children?

Russia's aim with munitions has been horrible...it's not like their own people haven't been complaining about it either. So if Russia fires and has a miracle to where 12 different systems fail the Russian missiles will hit women and children. Why are you rooting for the death and dismemberment of innocent people? Every Russian success you cheer and cry when Ukraine has success. Your Ruskie skin is showing. Or you are on the payroll for the mercenaries and war criminals Wagner Group. You know....the ones who admit they kill innocent women and children after they rape them.
 

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cv5

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What about the manpads and Phalanx systems? There's a LOT of stuff....even AA systems are capable of taking out missiles and drones depending upon the radar systems....especially since they just got the latest tech with counter battery systems to protect the airspace above. Sorry to disappoint you with this.

And why are you hoping for the demise of the innocent women and children?

Russia's aim with munitions has been horrible...it's not like their own people haven't been complaining about it either. So if Russia fires and has a miracle to where 12 different systems fail the Russian missiles will hit women and children. Why are you rooting for the death and dismemberment of innocent people? Every Russian success you cheer and cry when Ukraine has success. Your Ruskie skin is showing. Or you are on the payroll for the mercenaries and war criminals Wagner Group. You know....the ones who admit they kill innocent women and children after they rape them.
The Pentagon leaks make it very clear that Ukraine AD is kaput.
 

JohnDB

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The Pentagon leaks make it very clear that Ukraine AD is kaput.
Ummmm
The "leaked" material is old. They JUST now got these systems last week.

I'm guessing that your Wagner bosses don't tell you much eh,
 

cv5

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Ummmm
The "leaked" material is old. They JUST now got these systems last week.

I'm guessing that your Wagner bosses don't tell you much eh,
Sure I'm well aware that some few Patriot batteries and other AD items have very recently been delivered. As I said before they could be easily overwhelmed and/or neutralized in 24 hours.

Word has it Russia is stockpiling hypersonics and the other "good stuff" for the upcoming hostilities.
 

cv5

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In other news, AFU defense forces are collapsing in what is left of their diminishing holdout in Bakhmut, and Russian forces sweeping through the city.
 

JohnDB

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In other news, AFU defense forces are collapsing in what is left of their diminishing holdout in Bakhmut, and Russian forces sweeping through the city.
Yeah....whatever. if only you understood military tactics.

The location of Ukranians in Bakhmut is also the location of the last civilian holdouts....the ones with nowhere to go. The soldiers are defending their lives....because it's important.
 

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Russia is prone to utilizing their old military strategy. Cannon fodder. They don’t value human lives. Not even their own peoples lives. They just throw them in hoping the enemy will run out of soldiers before themselves. This strategy works well when you have a bus load of allies supplying you with weapons, like we did during WWII, but today the situation is different.
 

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Good news for Ukraine!


Just when you thought all the men from 18 to 65 were dead they are now recruiting women for the war. One more step towards equity as we equal out the men and women killed on the battlefield.
 

JohnDB

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This is what genocide looks like....

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/ukraine-conflict-updates

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on April 27 codifying conditions for the further large-scale deportation to Russia of residents of occupied areas of Ukraine. Putin signed a decree entitled “On the Peculiarities of the Legal Status of Certain Categories of Foreign Citizens and Stateless Persons in the Russian Federation” that defines those who are living in Russian-occupied territories who have declared their desire to retain their current citizenship and refuse to accept Russian passports as “foreign citizens and stateless persons currently residing in the Russian Federation.”[8] The decree holds that such individuals may continue to reside in occupied territories until July 1, 2024, suggesting that these individuals may be subject to deportation following this date.[9] This decree codifies coercive methods to encourage residents of occupied areas to receive Russian passports and also sets conditions for the deportation of Ukrainians who do not agree to become Russian citizens. Russian authorities are also continuing other efforts to deport Ukrainians, particularly children, to Russia under various schemes.[10] ISW continues to assess that all lines of effort aimed at deporting Ukrainians to Russia may constitute a violation of the Geneva Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, as well as a potential deliberate ethnic cleansing campaign.