Baptism, the simple version.

So we act on what we believe. What we do is a reflection of what we believe.
That's why faith is all that is necessary for salvation. Because once we believe, what we believe we will do. If we don't, regardless of what we say, we don't really believe.
We've established that belief is a matter of the heart. It comes through hearing and that by the word of God. Who gives the hearing that comes through the word?

Nowhere in the scriptures is faith only required for salvation. Once agai n, look at ALL the scriptures. I'll leave it at that with you. Goodbye

Nowhere in the scriptures is faith only required for salvation.

Actually, there are many, so your claim that there are none is surprising.

Romans 10:8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,”
that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9 that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with your
heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.

Acts 16:30 Then he (jailer) brought them (Paul and Silas) out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be
saved?” 31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household.”

^ Just a small sampling. Only one would be required to prove you wrong, yet there are many more, as well.

Consider also that Paul was glad he water baptized so very few, and Jesus water baptized a grand total of none.

Faith only doesn't save, and you can point to as many stand-alone scriptures you like, but doing so on
a stand-alone, cherrypick basis means nothing and demonstrates your lack of scriptural understanding.

So we act on what we believe. What we do is a reflection of what we believe.
That's why faith is all that is necessary for salvation. Because once we believe, what we believe we will do. If we don't, regardless of what we say, we don't really believe.
We've established that belief is a matter of the heart. It comes through hearing and that by the word of God. Who gives the hearing that comes through the word?

Your claim was proven wrong. You carry on doing the same as you accuse others.

So, if you carry that back to the logical (illogical) extreme, then ears are all we need to be saved.....
Telling people that "faith" is all they need, can be, and likely is, a HUGE disservice to them when helping teach them Jesus.
What did Jesus tell us to do, right before he ascended into heaven?

"18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. 19 [a]Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you [b]always, even to the end of the age.”

They don't accept the very simple language of the bible that very clearly indicates that baptism, immersion in water, is absolutely necessary to be saved.

I never meant to imply that faith in faith is any good...only that faith in Christ was sufficient.

Yes, but that still leaves it up to the new believer to "find" all the results of faith and belief.... they need instruction, using scripture only, that will lead them on the path to discipleship... and that is our task, as mature believers. To show them the way...
If all you say is "faith is all you need" then many of them will stop there. "Well, I have faith, I'm all good".....
The new believer needs to know that faith should LEAD them to following Christ, to do what he told us to do... and everything that entails...

Sure. That's the role of the church given in the great commission.

So, as a part of the body (church), it is actually OUR job to instruct them as completely as possible....
That's the point I'm trying to make.... it's OUR responsibility to be as complete as possible when sharing the gospel...
Not that we have to instruct a new believer completely in everything, but when it comes to accepting the free gift of salvation, we need to make sure they understand the road they are about to travel..... we shouldn't leave them standing in the same spot for years... following Jesus is a journey... if all they learn is the first step, and that's it, then there is no journey.

Actually, there are many, so your claim that there are none is surprising.

Romans 10:8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,”
that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9 that if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,”
and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with your
heart you believe and are justified, and with your mouth you confess and are saved.

Acts 16:30 Then he (jailer) brought them (Paul and Silas) out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be
saved?” 31 They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household.”

^ Just a small sampling. Only one would be required to prove you wrong, yet there are many more, as well.

Consider also that Paul was glad he water baptized so very few, and Jesus water baptized a grand total of none.

No. It is NOT absolutely necessary to be saved. That is a gross misunderstanding of water baptism. On the other hand it is a commandment of Christ to each one who is saved. That is for sanctification.

Read a bit further in 1 Cor regarding Paul. Read 1 Cor 3:6. Paul was the orator, Apollos was the baptizer. Paul planted Apollos watered. .any people totally don't get what Paul meant by his statements in 1 Cor 1 especially verse 17, which most people get completely wrong.

Baptism is watering? LOL

Read a bit further in 1 Cor regarding Paul. Read 1 Cor 3:6. Paul was the orator, Apollos was the baptizer. Paul planted Apollos watered. .any people totally don't get what Paul meant by his statements in 1 Cor 1 especially verse 17, which most people get completely wrong.

Colossians 2:12
"And having been buried with Him in baptism, you were raised with Him through your faith in the power of God, who raised Him from the dead."

Romans 6:4
"We were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may walk in newness of life."

Christians need to know much more than forgiveness of sins. God has also provided the remedy for the sinner. Before we are born again, we are like a "sin factory". We do not need to try to sin. Watch a two year old throw a tantrum and you will see the fallen nature as clear as day.

God's remedy is simple. It is death. Who now fears Adolf Hitler, Stalin or Ted Bundy? Those men are dead and cannot harm anyone. God includes us in the death of Christ so that we too are dead. We die to sin, self, Satan and the world system. We may not always experience this as we still have the ability to sin. But sin should no longer enslave us. If it does control us still, it is because we do not know that we are dead.

What do you do with a dead body? You bury it. And that is what God does in baptism. We should agree with God that our old man is worthy only of death and is beyond repair. Many struggle with this. Secretly, they hope that somehow something of worth can be found in the old. Like Abraham with Ishmael, they hope that God will accept the works of self. And they hope in vain.

The sooner the Christian accepts their hopeless and helpless condition, the better off he/she is. This must not lead to despair, however. Paul went through this stage as he records it in Romans 7. He saw his helpless condition. He also saw the answer. As in everything, the answer is Christ. We need to know that as an absolute, as surely as we know our own name.

Resurrection can only follow death. Christ is the Life of the born again believer. Let's not stop at forgiveness of sin. Let's go on to walk in the power of the resurrection.

LOL, this is the most ridiculous thing I think I've ever heard.