Seed of the Woman

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ThereRoseaLamb

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“And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel”

So I'm not trying to start a new doctrine here, I understand this is talking about Christ. But my sister and I were just talking about how satan has always tried to destroy the womans seed. Whether it be drugs, abortion or sterilization , feminism, homosexuality and now transgenderism . Satan has done his best to try to attack the family and more specifically mothers
and their seed.


With feminism came the idea that a woman doesn't need a family to be fulfilled. A 9-5 job was what she needed to be happy. In the 70s came abortion. Women were already being sterilized thanks to Margret Sanger who said women were having too many children and needed to "plan their parenthood". 60 million abortions doesn't take in to account the children and grandchildren they could have had. Then homosexuality was pushed, where partners would have no bloodline from their parents. Now we have transgenderism that is pushing women out of their roles and being taken by men. Satan has been after the womans seed since the beginning. I thought that would be a wonderful Mothers Day sermon. Anyone have any thoughts about it? Sure appreciate your point of view.
 

Dino246

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You nailed it. I have nothing to add. :)
 

Aaron56

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We should also remember that the first person thrown under the bus was a woman.

God: “Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?”

Adam: “The woman whom You gave me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

Smooth move, Ex-lax!
 

JohnDB

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Galatians 3:16.

Blind Bartamaus was yelling "SEED of David" and not son as often translated.... which to David is the last time prophetically we see the Seed of the Woman promised....

Just saying....

When preaching....people already know what is wrong, you don't have to point out sin because they know sin. What they really want to know is Righteousness....we love watching babies because of innocence....we like watching whole happy families...because it's good. (And so often people don't know how to achieve that ideal)

Traditionally the pastor preaches a sermon on the wonderful unsung hero mothers are....meh!

Why not the story of Ruth and the kinsmen redeemer....of Naomi being so bitter she says that her name is "mara" because that name means bitter. Of how, because of their FAITHFULNESS God made a bad situation good....and because of this their grandson was King David. A truly great legacy.
 

JohnDB

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We should also remember that the first person thrown under the bus was a woman.

God: “Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?”

Adam: “The woman whom You gave me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

Smooth move, Ex-lax!
Well she did eat them out of house and home....

And he didn't have to eat any....what would things look like if Adam didn't eat any and only finger pointed at her going "look at what she did....first she eats the fruit I told her not to and now she is wearing clothes....what gives? I need another one"
 

Cameron143

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We should also remember that the first person thrown under the bus was a woman.

God: “Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?”

Adam: “The woman whom You gave me, she gave me fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

Smooth move, Ex-lax!
And God was second...the woman YOU gave me...even worse.
 

Magenta

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Happy Mothers' Day!


1 Timothy 5:1-2
:)

This may seem odd and it certainly does to me, but we have members who believe Mary
did not conceive as the Scriptures say, but that Jesus was implanted into her womb.


Matthew 1:20 and Luke 1:31

But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph,
thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.


And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus.

Also Isaiah 7:14 ~ Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold,
the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.
 

Flannery

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The seed of the woman mentioned in revelations who the woman goes out into the wilderness to deliver in great travail? That's often interpreted as the church at the end of times, or by others as Christ, who was born under trying circumstances of required political travel and also forced to sojourn in Egypt. That can be read as Christ or the Bride of Christ, but its spiritual either way, I doubt that revelations has very much to do with Planned Parenthood or whoever was marching on Broadway last year against the Gay Pride Parade.

Spiritual meaning, God born of the Virgin Mother or a brother or sister of Christ, but since God has no grandchildren (or at any rate He didn't used to) I can't really see what it has to do with the Teen Youth Group's dating singles lives.
 

MsMediator

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“And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel”

So I'm not trying to start a new doctrine here, I understand this is talking about Christ. But my sister and I were just talking about how satan has always tried to destroy the womans seed. Whether it be drugs, abortion or sterilization , feminism, homosexuality and now transgenderism . Satan has done his best to try to attack the family and more specifically mothers
and their seed.


With feminism came the idea that a woman doesn't need a family to be fulfilled. A 9-5 job was what she needed to be happy. In the 70s came abortion. Women were already being sterilized thanks to Margret Sanger who said women were having too many children and needed to "plan their parenthood". 60 million abortions doesn't take in to account the children and grandchildren they could have had. Then homosexuality was pushed, where partners would have no bloodline from their parents. Now we have transgenderism that is pushing women out of their roles and being taken by men. Satan has been after the womans seed since the beginning. I thought that would be a wonderful Mothers Day sermon. Anyone have any thoughts about it? Sure appreciate your point of view.
Having a job doesn't make one a "feminist" or the other things you mentioned. Personally I consider my job/career a blessing from God, and providing this job is one way God takes care of me. So I will have to praise God for giving me my job.

The other thing is, there is no mandate to marry. In fact the NT praises both singlehood and marriage, which does show that a man or woman doesn't have to be married to be fulfilled. I suppose tradition is such that fathers have to provide for their single daughters and their retirement if a daughter doesn't marry, but many fathers cannot afford this. So, it is better that a single woman work so she doesn't add too much stress on her father. If she is going to work, she might well choose a promising job/career.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Having a job doesn't make one a "feminist" or the other things you mentioned. Personally I consider my job/career a blessing from God, and providing this job is one way God takes care of me. So I will have to praise God for giving me my job.

First of all I always appreciate your posts, not only that but the spirit you write when responding. I wasn't trying to link feminism with a woman having a job. I know there are financial reasons that a woman needs to work. What I'm speaking about is the feminist ideal that a woman doesn't need a family to be happy. They were against the family and marriages, still are really. Put your job before everything else and everyone else. I don't see where feminists did anything good for the family or for marriage. I certainly wasn't trying to draw the line that any woman who works is a feminist or wrong. I don't think ultimately that was what God wanted for the family but it has become necessary because gov'ts have placed undue burdens on the people.
 

MsMediator

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For married women with children, the children must be a priority so they may have to sacrifice their career. Personally, I don't believe this means she has to be a stay at home mom for the entire 18 years, but she can tailor it to her children's caregiving and schedule etc. Whatever works best for the family.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I doubt that revelations has very much to do with Planned Parenthood or whoever was marching on Broadway last year against the Gay Pride Parade.
“And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed..."

As part of the curse, enmity—mutual hatred and ill will—will exist between the woman and the serpent. Later, the same enmity will continue between the woman’s seed or offspring (mankind in general, since Eve is the “mother of all living,” Genesis 3:20) and the serpent’s seed. Their offspring will remain enemies throughout all generations. The serpent’s (metaphorical) offspring are demonic forces and also those people who follow the devil and accomplish his will.

We're talking about how satan has done his best to attack Godly womanhood, her seed (children) and the family as a whole. And that does have everything to do with Planned Parenthood murdering children in the womb and gay agendas being pushed, again, attacking the nuclear family.
 

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“And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed..."

As part of the curse, enmity—mutual hatred and ill will—will exist between the woman and the serpent. Later, the same enmity will continue between the woman’s seed or offspring (mankind in general, since Eve is the “mother of all living,” Genesis 3:20) and the serpent’s seed. Their offspring will remain enemies throughout all generations. The serpent’s (metaphorical) offspring are demonic forces and also those people who follow the devil and accomplish his will.

We're talking about how satan has done his best to attack Godly womanhood, her seed (children) and the family as a whole. And that does have everything to do with Planned Parenthood murdering children in the womb and gay agendas being pushed, again, attacking the nuclear family.
That has something to do with Jesus Christ's nuclear family, including the natural mother, adoptive father and the stepbrothers. It does.
 

Nehemiah6

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Satan has done his best to try to attack the family and more specifically mothers and their seed.
There are several things to note here:

1. It is always a small vocal and wicked minority that has had its way in society. This applies to feminism, abortionists. the LGBTQ activists, and the demonic transgender "heroes".

2. The reason for this is that ordinary sane, conservative, God-fearing, or Christian women have simply stood by and allowed the wicked to take control. How is it that the majority of women continued to vote for the politicians who supported every perversion, instead of dumping them at the ballot box? How is it that women failed to proclaim that "Abortion is Murder" for decades? Every woman would know in her heart of hearts that this is true. Where was the outrage against laws which legalized infanticide?

3. Even now regular women have not made a huge push against the transgender activists, while they have hijacked women's sports for example. The Bud Light revolt against transgenders is basically a male rejection of this perversion. Women shold have flooded their representatives with opposition to this attack against women. They should have boycotted all corporations, organizations and politicians which supported this insanity.

4. It is now clear that between the COVID conspiracy, abortion activism, and the transgender insanity, the powers that be are working night and day to destroy and kill vast numbers of people worldwide. Depopulation is the goal, and when ordinary human reproduction is under attack, it means that there will be fewer children in the future. In the meantime little children are under sever attack from all sides, and the majority of parents are oblivious. Otherwise the public schools would have been empty by now and drag queen shows would have been completely boycotted..

4. When it comes to "the seed of the woman" there is no question that this was a prophecy regarding the virgin birth of the Savior, and how the virgin-born Jesus of Nazareth would utterly destroy the power of the devil at the cross. Thus Paul is careful to say that Christ was "made of a woman" and Christ was careful to address Mary not as "Mother" but as "Woman". The supernatural virgin birth guaranteed that He would be sinless Man, and there would be nothing within Him to respond to any temptation. But then the Catholic Church took this to another extreme and elevated Mary to become Queen of Heaven. That is definitely not what God had in mind.
 
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“And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed..."

As part of the curse, enmity—mutual hatred and ill will—will exist between the woman and the serpent. Later, the same enmity will continue between the woman’s seed or offspring (mankind in general, since Eve is the “mother of all living,” Genesis 3:20) and the serpent’s seed. Their offspring will remain enemies throughout all generations. The serpent’s (metaphorical) offspring are demonic forces and also those people who follow the devil and accomplish his will.

We're talking about how satan has done his best to attack Godly womanhood, her seed (children) and the family as a whole. And that does have everything to do with Planned Parenthood murdering children in the womb and gay agendas being pushed, again, attacking the nuclear family.
I thought all children were the seed of men? Jesus is called "seed of the woman", because He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, rather than any human male.

2. The reason for this is that ordinary sane, conservative, God-fearing, or Christian women have simply stood by and allowed the wicked to take control. How is it that the majority of women continued to vote for the politicians who supported every perversion, instead of dumping them at the ballot box? How is it that women failed to proclaim that "Abortion is Murder" for decades? Every woman would know in her heart of hearts that this is true. Where was the outrage against laws which legalized infanticide?
I mostly agree with your post, but it was men who gave women the vote. So if we're going to blame women for how they voted, shouldn't we also blame men who gave women the vote in the first place? (And who really knows how long voting has been rigged for. It could've been from the start, for all we know... Democracy was always a model for failure. I much prefer the idea of a Republic.)
 

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“And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel”

So I'm not trying to start a new doctrine here, I understand this is talking about Christ. But my sister and I were just talking about how satan has always tried to destroy the womans seed. Whether it be drugs, abortion or sterilization , feminism, homosexuality and now transgenderism . Satan has done his best to try to attack the family and more specifically mothers
and their seed.


With feminism came the idea that a woman doesn't need a family to be fulfilled. A 9-5 job was what she needed to be happy. In the 70s came abortion. Women were already being sterilized thanks to Margret Sanger who said women were having too many children and needed to "plan their parenthood". 60 million abortions doesn't take in to account the children and grandchildren they could have had. Then homosexuality was pushed, where partners would have no bloodline from their parents. Now we have transgenderism that is pushing women out of their roles and being taken by men. Satan has been after the womans seed since the beginning. I thought that would be a wonderful Mothers Day sermon. Anyone have any thoughts about it? Sure appreciate your point of view.

Sounds like the Truth
 

JohnDB

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The "Woman" is the bride of Christ....
The "seed" is a reference to Christ himself.
As the "Seed" died it gave birth to a huge tree of the church. An imagery of the things to come....all metaphorical. Everyone was once "hot" looking for the Seed so they could access the Garden in Eden once again.

Jesus is that access.

The Proverbs 31 woman is often described as the perfect wife....but in truth if any one woman tried to do all of that she would die from exhaustion....so again we see that this "woman" again is a metaphor for the church as a whole.

Then there's Hosea who married a prostitute....which again is another metaphor for the Church.

Lots and lots of metaphors surrounding the Women, mothers, and wives.
 

HeIsHere

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The decision to not bear children in marriage, shrinking birth rates, is an ideology which some Christians have adopted as well, it is going to be catastrophic for many countries in the near future.

I think this is one of the greatest attacks against the seed of the woman.
 

HeIsHere

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“And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel”

So I'm not trying to start a new doctrine here, I understand this is talking about Christ. But my sister and I were just talking about how satan has always tried to destroy the womans seed. Whether it be drugs, abortion or sterilization , feminism, homosexuality and now transgenderism . Satan has done his best to try to attack the family and more specifically mothers
and their seed.


With feminism came the idea that a woman doesn't need a family to be fulfilled. A 9-5 job was what she needed to be happy. In the 70s came abortion. Women were already being sterilized thanks to Margret Sanger who said women were having too many children and needed to "plan their parenthood". 60 million abortions doesn't take in to account the children and grandchildren they could have had. Then homosexuality was pushed, where partners would have no bloodline from their parents. Now we have transgenderism that is pushing women out of their roles and being taken by men. Satan has been after the womans seed since the beginning. I thought that would be a wonderful Mothers Day sermon. Anyone have any thoughts about it? Sure appreciate your point of view.
I wonder where the Christians have been while all this has been taking place?
Can we blame it all on Satan?