The gift of increased faith

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Fundaamental

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#1
As you know one of the gifts of the holy spirit is faith. And one of the fruits of the holy spirit is faithfullness,

Since faith is something a believer allready possesses what is the gift of faith suggesting.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.



The Holy Spirit is given to each of us in a special way. That is for the good of all. 8 To some people the Spirit gives a message of wisdom. To others the same Spirit gives a message of knowledge. 9 To others the same Spirit gives faith.

Would this be increased faith as and when needed, as in something you reçieve each time you pray for more faith.

Or would it be something you reçieve once when you pray for it.

Personaly I would of thought theese gifts are permanent and make you pursue them more from within. 😊

On a last note would pursuing love from within, give you the ability to express theese gifts.

As translations suggests it does.

But since I've been told my knowledge of the Greek and Hebrews translations is inadequate, I thought I would raise the question, centred on faith rather than prophesy or tounges, as that one seems to be a touchy subject.
 

Fundaamental

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#2
It seems people have lost the gifts of tounges with this one 😋😍
 

Aerials1978

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The fruits of the Spirit is a result of our sanctification. This can only come by the Holy Spirit. Our faith can wavier from time to time, but God knows this. By the very fact you talk about this shows you have faith.
 

studentoftheword

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Since faith is something a believer allready possesses what is the gift of faith suggesting.
This is a Spiritual Gift is given to edify the Body of Christ and it gives the believer strong unshakeable confidence in God --His Word and His Promises ---it is a Faith that is deeply grounded and rooted in God and His Word -----it is an unwavering Faith that remains even unto death -----

Hebrews 11 gives the list of people who were given the Spiritual Gift of Faith -----

3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

4 By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks, even though he is dead.

5 By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.”[a] For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. 6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

7 By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith.

8 By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. 9 By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. 10 For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God. 11 And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she[b] considered him faithful who had made the promise. 12 And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.

13 All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth. 14 People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. 15 If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.

17 By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had embraced the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son,

18 even though God had said to him, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.”[c]

19 Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead, and so in a manner of speaking he did receive Isaac back from death.

20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau in regard to their future.

21 By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph’s sons, and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff.

22 By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and gave instructions concerning the burial of his bones.

23 By faith Moses’ parents hid him for three months after he was born, because they saw he was no ordinary child, and they were not afraid of the king’s edict.

24 By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh’s daughter.

25 He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the fleeting pleasures of sin.

26 He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward.

27 By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the king’s anger; he persevered because he saw him who is invisible.

28 By faith he kept the Passover and the application of blood, so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch the firstborn of Israel.

29 By faith the people passed through the Red Sea as on dry land; but when the Egyptians tried to do so, they were drowned.

30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell, after the army had marched around them for seven days.

31 By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.[d]

32 And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah, about David and Samuel and the prophets,

33 who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions,

34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies.

35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection.

36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment.

37 They were put to death by stoning;[e] they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated—

38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.
 

Blade

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#7
"Fruit" and not "fruits". Gal 5v22,23.
"But the fruits of The Spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, sweetness, goodness, faith, "

Yeah theirs a translation that uses the word 'fruits".

Pulpit said "The word "fruit," moreover, describing in the vegetable world a matured product, is very commonly used in the New Testament with reference to such product as is not only of a pleasant but also of a useful kind; thus, "fruits meet for repentance;"
 

Fundaamental

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#8
This is a Spiritual Gift is given to edify the Body of Christ and it gives the believer strong unshakeable confidence in God --His Word and His Promises ---it is a Faith that is deeply grounded and rooted in God and His Word -----it is an unwavering Faith that remains even unto death -----

Hebrews 11 gives the list of people who were given the Spiritual Gift of Faith -----

3 By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.

4 By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks, even though he is dead.

5 By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: “He could not be found, because God had taken him away.”[a] For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God. 6 And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.

7 By faith Noah, when warned about things not yet seen, in holy fear built an ark to save his family. By his faith he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness that is in keeping with faith.

8 By faith Abraham, when called to go to a place he would later receive as his inheritance, obeyed and went, even though he did not know where he was going. 9 By faith he made his home in the promised land like a stranger in a foreign country; he lived in tents, as did Isaac and Jacob, who were heirs with him of the same promise. 10 For he was looking forward to the city with foundations, whose architect and builder is God. 11 And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she[b] considered him faithful who had made the promise. 12 And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore.

13 All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth. 14 People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. 15 If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.

17 By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had embraced the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son,

18 even though God had said to him, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.”[c]

19 Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead, and so in a manner of speaking he did receive Isaac back from death.

20 By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau in regard to their future.

21 By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph’s sons, and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff.

22 By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and gave instructions concerning the burial of his bones.

23 By faith Moses’ parents hid him for three months after he was born, because they saw he was no ordinary child, and they were not afraid of the king’s edict.

24 By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh’s daughter.

25 He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the fleeting pleasures of sin.

26 He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward.

27 By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the king’s anger; he persevered because he saw him who is invisible.

28 By faith he kept the Passover and the application of blood, so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch the firstborn of Israel.

29 By faith the people passed through the Red Sea as on dry land; but when the Egyptians tried to do so, they were drowned.

30 By faith the walls of Jericho fell, after the army had marched around them for seven days.

31 By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.[d]

32 And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah, about David and Samuel and the prophets,

33 who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions,

34 quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies.

35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection.

36 Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment.

37 They were put to death by stoning;[e] they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins, destitute, persecuted and mistreated—

38 the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.
cool scripture, 🙂

Now may I ask would any of these people been filled with holy spirit temporarily when they expressed this faith.
 

studentoftheword

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#9
my view

The filling of the Holy Spirit anoints the person through Faith ----it is an unction to function ----it strengthens Faith to preform God's will ----

Faith comes by hearing the Word -----through Faith the Holy Spirit can anoint the person to have unshakeable Spiritual faith to stand firm for God and preform God's will -----

Spiritual Strong's Concordance
chrisma: an anointing, unction
Original Word: χρίσμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: chrisma
Phonetic Spelling: (khris'-mah)
Definition: an anointing, unction
an anointing and by it they were regarded as endued with the Holy Spirit and divine gifts

Cognate: 5545 xrísma (from 5548 /xríō, "anoint with oil") – anointing, referring to the teaching ministry of the Holy Spirit, guiding the receptive believer into fullness of God's preferred-will (see 2307 /thélēma). See 5548 (xrio).

[This anointing functions through faith (4102 /pístis), i.e. God inwardly persuading the believer of His preferences (cf. also Hab 2:1-4; 1 Jn 5:4).]
 

Fundaamental

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my view

The filling of the Holy Spirit anoints the person through Faith ----it is an unction to function ----it strengthens Faith to preform God's will ----

Faith comes by hearing the Word -----through Faith the Holy Spirit can anoint the person to have unshakeable Spiritual faith to stand firm for God and preform God's will -----

Spiritual Strong's Concordance
chrisma: an anointing, unction
Original Word: χρίσμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: chrisma
Phonetic Spelling: (khris'-mah)
Definition: an anointing, unction
an anointing and by it they were regarded as endued with the Holy Spirit and divine gifts

Cognate: 5545 xrísma (from 5548 /xríō, "anoint with oil") – anointing, referring to the teaching ministry of the Holy Spirit, guiding the receptive believer into fullness of God's preferred-will (see 2307 /thélēma). See 5548 (xrio).

[This anointing functions through faith (4102 /pístis), i.e. God inwardly persuading the believer of His preferences (cf. also Hab 2:1-4; 1 Jn 5:4).]
one more question to ponder befor I shoot of.

Faith comes by hearing the word.

Is the spirit in the word 🙂
 

Blain

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#11
As you know one of the gifts of the holy spirit is faith. And one of the fruits of the holy spirit is faithfullness,

Since faith is something a believer allready possesses what is the gift of faith suggesting.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.



The Holy Spirit is given to each of us in a special way. That is for the good of all. 8 To some people the Spirit gives a message of wisdom. To others the same Spirit gives a message of knowledge. 9 To others the same Spirit gives faith.

Would this be increased faith as and when needed, as in something you reçieve each time you pray for more faith.

Or would it be something you reçieve once when you pray for it.

Personaly I would of thought theese gifts are permanent and make you pursue them more from within. 😊

On a last note would pursuing love from within, give you the ability to express theese gifts.

As translations suggests it does.

But since I've been told my knowledge of the Greek and Hebrews translations is inadequate, I thought I would raise the question, centred on faith rather than prophesy or tounges, as that one seems to be a touchy subject.
I have been reading this thread and I tried to message you but I am still blocked. I want to first say how proud I am of you, your not only asking the right questions your planting it in peoples minds that is the planting of the seeds of the kingdom

As far as I can tell he says well done good and faithful servant
 

Fundaamental

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I have been reading this thread and I tried to message you but I am still blocked. I want to first say how proud I am of you, your not only asking the right questions your planting it in peoples minds that is the planting of the seeds of the kingdom

As far as I can tell he says well done good and faithful servant
blocked ?.
 

Fundaamental

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#13
I have been reading this thread and I tried to message you but I am still blocked. I want to first say how proud I am of you, your not only asking the right questions your planting it in peoples minds that is the planting of the seeds of the kingdom

As far as I can tell he says well done good and faithful servant
I've just followed you as a friend try resending it
 

Blain

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I've just followed you as a friend try resending it
It just shows this

Attention:
This member limits who may view their full profile.
It in your settings you have to go to your profile and manually change it.
 

Blain

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you sent me one last week.

I've never blocked you ?
if you send a message I can respond we were talking on a message we already started so I was able to respond but there is a setting in your profile that you can use to make it where your can recieve messages from people or not.

You can send messages but others can't to you.

Trust me I know it's confusing.
 

Fundaamental

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It just shows this

Attention:
This member limits who may view their full profile.
It in your settings you have to go to your profile and manually change it.
oh I'll look I think I may have stopped Moron's viewing my profile then asking me if I was saved. Hold on
 

Fundaamental

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if you send a message I can respond we were talking on a message we already started so I was able to respond but there is a setting in your profile that you can use to make it where your can recieve messages from people or not.

You can send messages but others can't to you.

Trust me I know it's confusing.
well I just sent you one now