The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE

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The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE
I believe the courts should rule that a person’s gender is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate and the gender classification cannot be changed, period, nada, zip, never.
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Nehemiah6

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I believe the courts should rule that a person’s gender is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate and the gender classification cannot be changed, period, nada, zip, never.
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Yes. Except that the courts themselves (all the way to the Supreme Court) are a part of this conspiracy to destroy people. Ketanji Brown Jackson -- appointed to the Supreme Court solely because she is a black woman -- refused to state plainly what a woman is. That should have automatically disqualified her. Instead she is now there promoting the extreme Leftist agenda.
 

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I read somewhere that all nations will succumb to the rule of the beast. Do you think the U.S. will be the exception?
 

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The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE
I believe the courts should rule that a person’s gender is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate and the gender classification cannot be changed, period, nada, zip, never.
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actually there's something you've not taken to consideration, Abby and Brittany are real, twins born joined at the hip.
But what would you say if Abby came out with a man's head and Brittany a female. Ie a male and female that got joined at the hip inside the womb.
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Fundaamental

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And here they are, what should be the ruling for male and female sharing the same body



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But what would you say if Abby came out with a man's head and Brittany a female. Ie a male and female that got joined at the hip inside the womb.
That is just a silly attempt to dodge the issue. This ASSAULT on young people -- particularly children -- by the establishment is criminal and evil, and there should have been a huge resistance to the physical, psychological, emotional, and spiritual destruction of human beings by a handful of radicals.
 

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That is just a silly attempt to dodge the issue. This ASSAULT on young people -- particularly children -- by the establishment is criminal and evil, and there should have been a huge resistance to the physical, psychological, emotional, and spiritual destruction of human beings by a handful of radicals.
I was dodging at all, if a female and male are born sharing the same body, and the body is that of a male, and the female head wants to be a male

What would be the court ruling ?

I think it's a reasonable question
 

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I was dodging at all, if a female and male are born sharing the same body, and the body is that of a male, and the female head wants to be a male

What would be the court ruling ?

I think it's a reasonable question
I think this has nothing to do with the OP.
 

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The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE
I believe the courts should rule that a person’s gender is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate and the gender classification cannot be changed, period, nada, zip, never.
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I just checked the law books and it has been ruled on by the Supreme Court.

Here is the Citation.
 

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I was dodging at all, if a female and male are born sharing the same body, and the body is that of a male, and the female head wants to be a male

What would be the court ruling ?

I think it's a reasonable question
Exceptions only prove the rule.
 

John146

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The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE
I believe the courts should rule that a person’s gender is the gender stated on one’s birth certificate and the gender classification cannot be changed, period, nada, zip, never.
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The word of God ends the debate, not the court ruling.;)
 

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I think this has nothing to do with the OP.
Nope it has everything to do with op.

A persons gender designated to a baby at birth gives that baby no right to challenge who they want to be later in life in the case of that picture.

Besides that can a transgender who has had a sex change come to Christ.

The lord says any individual is free to make a choice.

What the individual does to there body should be there choice.

People may say that's living in sin.

But still that's that person's choice.

As you saw from the picture that hormone defects are a natural phenomena.

Until science as proven without a shadow of doubt that hormone imbalance don't cause men or women to be gay, or make people decide to go transgender, then I'm on the fence.

Because of those pictures.

And also many people live in sin befor they come to Christ.
 

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Nope it has everything to do with op.

A persons gender designated to a baby at birth gives that baby no right to challenge who they want to be later in life in the case of that picture.

Besides that can a transgender who has had a sex change come to Christ.

The lord says any individual is free to make a choice.

What the individual does to there body should be there choice.

People may say that's living in sin.

But still that's that person's choice.

As you saw from the picture that hormone defects are a natural phenomena.

Until science as proven without a shadow of doubt that hormone imbalance don't cause men or women to be gay, or make people decide to go transgender, then I'm on the fence.

Because of those pictures.

And also many people live in sin befor they come to Christ.
Let scripture be clear of the delusion that is going on in the lives of these people.

Romans 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie,
and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
 

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Let scripture be clear of the delusion that is going on in the lives of these people.

Romans 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie,
and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
are you also going deny hormone defects don't happen ?.

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are you also going deny hormone defects don't happen ?.

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This is the same argument that people use for abortion when they bring up ectopic pregnancies which is not even connected to abortion.

This is a fallacy because it is "cherry picking."

Again has nothing to do with the transgender movement and gender dysphoria.
 

Fundaamental

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This is the same argument that people use for abortion when they bring up ectopic pregnancies which is not even connected to abortion.

This is a fallacy because it is "cherry picking."

Again has nothing to do with the transgender movement and gender dysphoria.
No it's the shocking truth that hormone defects are more common today then they've ever been.

You could have argued that in the days of Deuteronomy, when there wasn't as much pollution around, that being transgender or gay was solely down to there mind.

But since then times have changed in the form of chemicals defects causing hormone defects and abnormalities from birth, and many new rare diseases have emerged .

There is no way of knowing just how much hormonal imbalances as also effected the mind at this stage to, Until science unlocks the mind we will never truly know, only God does.

To bring abortion into this is just a desperate attempt to deny this reality.