List of Totally and Partially Omitted Passages in the Modern Translations

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These need to be referenced with a modern translation by comparing them.


Totally Omitted Passages
Matthew 17:21
Matthew 18:11
Mat 23:14
Mark 7:16
Mark 9:44
Mark 9:46
Mark 11:26
Mark 15:28
Luke 23:17
Acts 24:7


List of omitted Bible phrases
3 Matthew 1:25
4 Matthew 5:22
5 Matthew 5:44
6 Matthew 6:4
7 Matthew 6:6
8 Matthew 6:13
9 Matthew 6:18
10 Matthew 9:13
11 Matthew 15:8
12 Matthew 15:6
13 Matthew 16:3
14 Matthew 16:20
15 Matthew 18:35
16 Matthew 19:9
17 Matthew 19:17
18 Matthew 20:7
19 Matthew 20:16
20 Matthew 20:22, 23
21 Matthew 21:12
22 Matthew 22:13
23 Matthew 23:4
24 Matthew 23:8
25 Matthew 23:19
26 Matthew 24:7
27 Matthew 25:13
28 Matthew 26:28
29 Matthew 26:60
30 Matthew 27:24
31 Matthew 27:35
32 Matthew 27:64
33 Matthew 28:2
34 Matthew 28:6
35 Matthew 28:9
36 Mark 1:2
37 Mark 1:14
38 Mark 1:31
39 Mark 3:15
40 Mark 4:24
41 Mark 5:36
42 Mark 6:33
43 Mark 6:11
44 Mark 6:51
45 Mark 7:8
46 Mark 8:26
47 Mark 9:23
48 Mark 9:29
49 Mark 9:45
50 Mark 9:49
51 Mark 10:21
52 Mark 10:24
53 Mark 11:10
54 Mark 12:23
55 Mark 12:29-30
56 Mark 12:33
57 Mark 13:8
58 Mark 13:33
59 Mark 13:14
60 Mark 14:22
61 Mark 14:27
62 Mark 14:68
63 Mark 14:70
64 Luke 1:28
65 Luke 2:33
66 Luke 2:40
67 Luke 2:43
68 Luke 4:8
69 Luke 4:4
70 Luke 4:18
71 Luke 4:41
72 Luke 5:38
73 Luke 6:10
74 Luke 7:31
75 Luke 8:43
76 Luke 8:48
77 Luke 8:54
78 Luke 9:10
79 Luke 9:54
80 Luke 9:55
81 Luke 9:56
82 Luke 9:57
83 Luke 10:19
84 Luke 11:2
85 Luke 11:11
86 Luke 11:29
87 Luke 11:44
88 Luke 11:54
89 Luke 12:31
90 Luke 12:39
91 Luke 17:3
92 Luke 17:9
93 Luke 18:24
94 Luke 19:45
95 Luke 20:13
96 Luke 20:30
97 Luke 20:33
98 Luke 21:4
99 Luke 22:31
100 Luke 22:64
101 Luke 22:68
102 Luke 23:23
103 Luke 23:38
104 Luke 23:42
105 Luke 24:1
106 Luke 24:42
107 Luke 24:49
108 Luke 24:53
109 John 1:14
110 John 1:18
111 John 1:27
112 John 3:13
113 John 3:15
114 John 3:16
115 John 4:42
116 John 5:16
117 John 6:11
118 John 6:47
119 John 8:9
120 John 8:59
121 John 9:35
122 John 11:41
123 John 12:1
124 John 16:16
125 John 17:12
126 John 19:16
127 John 20:29
128 Acts 2:30
129 Acts 2:31
130 Acts 3:11
131 Acts 3:26
132 Acts 7:30
133 Acts 7:37
134 Acts 9:5,6
135 Acts 10:6
136 Acts 9:29
137 Acts 10:21
138 Acts 10:30
139 Acts 15:18
140 Acts 15:24
141 Acts 15:37
142 Acts 16:31
143 Acts 17:5
144 Acts 18:17
145 Acts 18:21
146 Acts 20:15
147 Acts 20:24
148 Acts 20:25
149 Acts 20:32
150 Acts 21:8
151 Acts 21:22
152 Acts 21:25
153 Acts 22:9
154 Acts 23:9
155 Acts 24:6
156 Acts 24:8
157 Acts 24:15
158 Acts 24:26
159 Acts 25:16
160 Acts 26:30
161 Acts 28:16
162 Romans 1:16
163 Romans 8:1
164 Romans 9:28
165 Romans 10:15
166 Romans 11:6
167 Romans 13:9
168 Romans 14:6
169 Romans 14:21
170 Romans 15:29
171 1 Corinthians 2:4
172 1 Corinthians 4:6
173 1 Corinthians 6:20
174 1 Corinthians 7:29
175 1 Corinthians 10:28
176 1 Corinthians 11:24
177 1 Corinthians 11:29
178 1 Corinthians 15:47
179 1 Corinthians 16:22-23
180 2 Corinthians 4:4
181 2 Corinthians 4:10
182 Galatians 3:1
183 Galatians 4:7
184 Galatians 5:21
185 Galatians 6:15
186 Ephesians 3:9
187 Ephesians 3:14
188 Ephesians 5:30
189 Ephesians 6:10
190 Philippians 3:16
191 Colossians 1:2
192 Colossians 1:14
193 Colossians 2:2
194 Colossians 2:18
195 Colossians 3:6
196 1 Thessalonians 1:1
197 1 Thessalonians 5:27
198 2 Thessalonians 1:8
199 1 Timothy 3:16
200 1 Timothy 4:12
201 1 Timothy 5:16
202 1 Timothy 6:5
203 2 Timothy 1:11
204 2 Timothy 2:9
205 2 Timothy 4:22
206 Philemon 1:12
207 Titus 1:4
208 Hebrews 1:3
209 Hebrews 2:7
210 Hebrews 7:21
211 Hebrews 10:9
212 Hebrews 10:30
213 Hebrews 10:34
214 Hebrews 11:11
215 Hebrews 11:37
216 Hebrews 12:20
217 1 Peter 1:22
218 1 Peter 4:1
219 1 Peter 4:14
220 1 Peter 5:5
221 1 Peter 5:10-11
222 2 Peter 1:21
223 2 Peter 2:17
224 2 Peter 3:10
225 1 John 1:7
226 1 John 2:7
227 1 John 4:3
228 1 John 4:9
229 1 John 4:19
230 1 John 5:7,8
231 1 John 5:13
232 2 John 1:9
233 Jude 1:25
234 Revelation 1:8
235 Revelation 1:11
236 Revelation 1:20
237 Revelation 2:13
238 Revelation 2:15
239 Revelation 5:14
240 Revelation 6:1,3,5,7
241 Revelation 11:17
242 Revelation 12:12
243 Revelation 12:17
244 Revelation 14:5
245 Revelation 15:2
246 Revelation 16:17
247 Revelation 18:20
248 Revelation 20:9
249 Revelation 20:12
250 Revelation 21:24
251 Revelation 22:19
 
Lynx

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Didn't we already have this exact conversation in your last thread about Bible versions?
 
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Pretty many problems, right?
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When you post multiple threads about the same topic, that is spam.

And like the other kind of spam, it leaves a bad taste. :p

Don't we already have enough bible version debates in BDF? Do we need MORE here in misc? No, not really. Certainly not MULTIPLE threads about the same topic.
 
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NetChaplain said:
These need to be referenced with a modern translation by comparing them.


Totally Omitted Passages
Matthew 17:21
Matthew 18:11
Mat 23:14
Mark 7:16
Mark 9:44
Mark 9:46
Mark 11:26
Mark 15:28
Luke 23:17
Acts 24:7


List of omitted Bible phrases
3 Matthew 1:25
4 Matthew 5:22
5 Matthew 5:44
6 Matthew 6:4
7 Matthew 6:6
8 Matthew 6:13
9 Matthew 6:18
10 Matthew 9:13
11 Matthew 15:8
12 Matthew 15:6
13 Matthew 16:3
14 Matthew 16:20
15 Matthew 18:35
16 Matthew 19:9
17 Matthew 19:17
18 Matthew 20:7
19 Matthew 20:16
20 Matthew 20:22, 23
21 Matthew 21:12
22 Matthew 22:13
23 Matthew 23:4
24 Matthew 23:8
25 Matthew 23:19
26 Matthew 24:7
27 Matthew 25:13
28 Matthew 26:28
29 Matthew 26:60
30 Matthew 27:24
31 Matthew 27:35
32 Matthew 27:64
33 Matthew 28:2
34 Matthew 28:6
35 Matthew 28:9
36 Mark 1:2
37 Mark 1:14
38 Mark 1:31
39 Mark 3:15
40 Mark 4:24
41 Mark 5:36
42 Mark 6:33
43 Mark 6:11
44 Mark 6:51
45 Mark 7:8
46 Mark 8:26
47 Mark 9:23
48 Mark 9:29
49 Mark 9:45
50 Mark 9:49
51 Mark 10:21
52 Mark 10:24
53 Mark 11:10
54 Mark 12:23
55 Mark 12:29-30
56 Mark 12:33
57 Mark 13:8
58 Mark 13:33
59 Mark 13:14
60 Mark 14:22
61 Mark 14:27
62 Mark 14:68
63 Mark 14:70
64 Luke 1:28
65 Luke 2:33
66 Luke 2:40
67 Luke 2:43
68 Luke 4:8
69 Luke 4:4
70 Luke 4:18
71 Luke 4:41
72 Luke 5:38
73 Luke 6:10
74 Luke 7:31
75 Luke 8:43
76 Luke 8:48
77 Luke 8:54
78 Luke 9:10
79 Luke 9:54
80 Luke 9:55
81 Luke 9:56
82 Luke 9:57
83 Luke 10:19
84 Luke 11:2
85 Luke 11:11
86 Luke 11:29
87 Luke 11:44
88 Luke 11:54
89 Luke 12:31
90 Luke 12:39
91 Luke 17:3
92 Luke 17:9
93 Luke 18:24
94 Luke 19:45
95 Luke 20:13
96 Luke 20:30
97 Luke 20:33
98 Luke 21:4
99 Luke 22:31
100 Luke 22:64
101 Luke 22:68
102 Luke 23:23
103 Luke 23:38
104 Luke 23:42
105 Luke 24:1
106 Luke 24:42
107 Luke 24:49
108 Luke 24:53
109 John 1:14
110 John 1:18
111 John 1:27
112 John 3:13
113 John 3:15
114 John 3:16
115 John 4:42
116 John 5:16
117 John 6:11
118 John 6:47
119 John 8:9
120 John 8:59
121 John 9:35
122 John 11:41
123 John 12:1
124 John 16:16
125 John 17:12
126 John 19:16
127 John 20:29
128 Acts 2:30
129 Acts 2:31
130 Acts 3:11
131 Acts 3:26
132 Acts 7:30
133 Acts 7:37
134 Acts 9:5,6
135 Acts 10:6
136 Acts 9:29
137 Acts 10:21
138 Acts 10:30
139 Acts 15:18
140 Acts 15:24
141 Acts 15:37
142 Acts 16:31
143 Acts 17:5
144 Acts 18:17
145 Acts 18:21
146 Acts 20:15
147 Acts 20:24
148 Acts 20:25
149 Acts 20:32
150 Acts 21:8
151 Acts 21:22
152 Acts 21:25
153 Acts 22:9
154 Acts 23:9
155 Acts 24:6
156 Acts 24:8
157 Acts 24:15
158 Acts 24:26
159 Acts 25:16
160 Acts 26:30
161 Acts 28:16
162 Romans 1:16
163 Romans 8:1
164 Romans 9:28
165 Romans 10:15
166 Romans 11:6
167 Romans 13:9
168 Romans 14:6
169 Romans 14:21
170 Romans 15:29
171 1 Corinthians 2:4
172 1 Corinthians 4:6
173 1 Corinthians 6:20
174 1 Corinthians 7:29
175 1 Corinthians 10:28
176 1 Corinthians 11:24
177 1 Corinthians 11:29
178 1 Corinthians 15:47
179 1 Corinthians 16:22-23
180 2 Corinthians 4:4
181 2 Corinthians 4:10
182 Galatians 3:1
183 Galatians 4:7
184 Galatians 5:21
185 Galatians 6:15
186 Ephesians 3:9
187 Ephesians 3:14
188 Ephesians 5:30
189 Ephesians 6:10
190 Philippians 3:16
191 Colossians 1:2
192 Colossians 1:14
193 Colossians 2:2
194 Colossians 2:18
195 Colossians 3:6
196 1 Thessalonians 1:1
197 1 Thessalonians 5:27
198 2 Thessalonians 1:8
199 1 Timothy 3:16
200 1 Timothy 4:12
201 1 Timothy 5:16
202 1 Timothy 6:5
203 2 Timothy 1:11
204 2 Timothy 2:9
205 2 Timothy 4:22
206 Philemon 1:12
207 Titus 1:4
208 Hebrews 1:3
209 Hebrews 2:7
210 Hebrews 7:21
211 Hebrews 10:9
212 Hebrews 10:30
213 Hebrews 10:34
214 Hebrews 11:11
215 Hebrews 11:37
216 Hebrews 12:20
217 1 Peter 1:22
218 1 Peter 4:1
219 1 Peter 4:14
220 1 Peter 5:5
221 1 Peter 5:10-11
222 2 Peter 1:21
223 2 Peter 2:17
224 2 Peter 3:10
225 1 John 1:7
226 1 John 2:7
227 1 John 4:3
228 1 John 4:9
229 1 John 4:19
230 1 John 5:7,8
231 1 John 5:13
232 2 John 1:9
233 Jude 1:25
234 Revelation 1:8
235 Revelation 1:11
236 Revelation 1:20
237 Revelation 2:13
238 Revelation 2:15
239 Revelation 5:14
240 Revelation 6:1,3,5,7
241 Revelation 11:17
242 Revelation 12:12
243 Revelation 12:17
244 Revelation 14:5
245 Revelation 15:2
246 Revelation 16:17
247 Revelation 18:20
248 Revelation 20:9
249 Revelation 20:12
250 Revelation 21:24
251 Revelation 22:19
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As Lynx as said, take it to the appropriate forum. I'll be happy to deconstruct your blatantly flawed argument there.
 
Lynx

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I notice there's no mention of Genesis 49:6.

Digged down any walls lately?
 
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NetChaplain said:
These need to be referenced with a modern translation by comparing them.


Totally Omitted Passages
Matthew 17:21
Matthew 18:11
Mat 23:14
Mark 7:16
Mark 9:44
Mark 9:46
Mark 11:26
Mark 15:28
Luke 23:17
Acts 24:7


List of omitted Bible phrases
3 Matthew 1:25
4 Matthew 5:22
5 Matthew 5:44
6 Matthew 6:4
7 Matthew 6:6
8 Matthew 6:13
9 Matthew 6:18
10 Matthew 9:13
11 Matthew 15:8
12 Matthew 15:6
13 Matthew 16:3
14 Matthew 16:20
15 Matthew 18:35
16 Matthew 19:9
17 Matthew 19:17
18 Matthew 20:7
19 Matthew 20:16
20 Matthew 20:22, 23
21 Matthew 21:12
22 Matthew 22:13
23 Matthew 23:4
24 Matthew 23:8
25 Matthew 23:19
26 Matthew 24:7
27 Matthew 25:13
28 Matthew 26:28
29 Matthew 26:60
30 Matthew 27:24
31 Matthew 27:35
32 Matthew 27:64
33 Matthew 28:2
34 Matthew 28:6
35 Matthew 28:9
36 Mark 1:2
37 Mark 1:14
38 Mark 1:31
39 Mark 3:15
40 Mark 4:24
41 Mark 5:36
42 Mark 6:33
43 Mark 6:11
44 Mark 6:51
45 Mark 7:8
46 Mark 8:26
47 Mark 9:23
48 Mark 9:29
49 Mark 9:45
50 Mark 9:49
51 Mark 10:21
52 Mark 10:24
53 Mark 11:10
54 Mark 12:23
55 Mark 12:29-30
56 Mark 12:33
57 Mark 13:8
58 Mark 13:33
59 Mark 13:14
60 Mark 14:22
61 Mark 14:27
62 Mark 14:68
63 Mark 14:70
64 Luke 1:28
65 Luke 2:33
66 Luke 2:40
67 Luke 2:43
68 Luke 4:8
69 Luke 4:4
70 Luke 4:18
71 Luke 4:41
72 Luke 5:38
73 Luke 6:10
74 Luke 7:31
75 Luke 8:43
76 Luke 8:48
77 Luke 8:54
78 Luke 9:10
79 Luke 9:54
80 Luke 9:55
81 Luke 9:56
82 Luke 9:57
83 Luke 10:19
84 Luke 11:2
85 Luke 11:11
86 Luke 11:29
87 Luke 11:44
88 Luke 11:54
89 Luke 12:31
90 Luke 12:39
91 Luke 17:3
92 Luke 17:9
93 Luke 18:24
94 Luke 19:45
95 Luke 20:13
96 Luke 20:30
97 Luke 20:33
98 Luke 21:4
99 Luke 22:31
100 Luke 22:64
101 Luke 22:68
102 Luke 23:23
103 Luke 23:38
104 Luke 23:42
105 Luke 24:1
106 Luke 24:42
107 Luke 24:49
108 Luke 24:53
109 John 1:14
110 John 1:18
111 John 1:27
112 John 3:13
113 John 3:15
114 John 3:16
115 John 4:42
116 John 5:16
117 John 6:11
118 John 6:47
119 John 8:9
120 John 8:59
121 John 9:35
122 John 11:41
123 John 12:1
124 John 16:16
125 John 17:12
126 John 19:16
127 John 20:29
128 Acts 2:30
129 Acts 2:31
130 Acts 3:11
131 Acts 3:26
132 Acts 7:30
133 Acts 7:37
134 Acts 9:5,6
135 Acts 10:6
136 Acts 9:29
137 Acts 10:21
138 Acts 10:30
139 Acts 15:18
140 Acts 15:24
141 Acts 15:37
142 Acts 16:31
143 Acts 17:5
144 Acts 18:17
145 Acts 18:21
146 Acts 20:15
147 Acts 20:24
148 Acts 20:25
149 Acts 20:32
150 Acts 21:8
151 Acts 21:22
152 Acts 21:25
153 Acts 22:9
154 Acts 23:9
155 Acts 24:6
156 Acts 24:8
157 Acts 24:15
158 Acts 24:26
159 Acts 25:16
160 Acts 26:30
161 Acts 28:16
162 Romans 1:16
163 Romans 8:1
164 Romans 9:28
165 Romans 10:15
166 Romans 11:6
167 Romans 13:9
168 Romans 14:6
169 Romans 14:21
170 Romans 15:29
171 1 Corinthians 2:4
172 1 Corinthians 4:6
173 1 Corinthians 6:20
174 1 Corinthians 7:29
175 1 Corinthians 10:28
176 1 Corinthians 11:24
177 1 Corinthians 11:29
178 1 Corinthians 15:47
179 1 Corinthians 16:22-23
180 2 Corinthians 4:4
181 2 Corinthians 4:10
182 Galatians 3:1
183 Galatians 4:7
184 Galatians 5:21
185 Galatians 6:15
186 Ephesians 3:9
187 Ephesians 3:14
188 Ephesians 5:30
189 Ephesians 6:10
190 Philippians 3:16
191 Colossians 1:2
192 Colossians 1:14
193 Colossians 2:2
194 Colossians 2:18
195 Colossians 3:6
196 1 Thessalonians 1:1
197 1 Thessalonians 5:27
198 2 Thessalonians 1:8
199 1 Timothy 3:16
200 1 Timothy 4:12
201 1 Timothy 5:16
202 1 Timothy 6:5
203 2 Timothy 1:11
204 2 Timothy 2:9
205 2 Timothy 4:22
206 Philemon 1:12
207 Titus 1:4
208 Hebrews 1:3
209 Hebrews 2:7
210 Hebrews 7:21
211 Hebrews 10:9
212 Hebrews 10:30
213 Hebrews 10:34
214 Hebrews 11:11
215 Hebrews 11:37
216 Hebrews 12:20
217 1 Peter 1:22
218 1 Peter 4:1
219 1 Peter 4:14
220 1 Peter 5:5
221 1 Peter 5:10-11
222 2 Peter 1:21
223 2 Peter 2:17
224 2 Peter 3:10
225 1 John 1:7
226 1 John 2:7
227 1 John 4:3
228 1 John 4:9
229 1 John 4:19
230 1 John 5:7,8
231 1 John 5:13
232 2 John 1:9
233 Jude 1:25
234 Revelation 1:8
235 Revelation 1:11
236 Revelation 1:20
237 Revelation 2:13
238 Revelation 2:15
239 Revelation 5:14
240 Revelation 6:1,3,5,7
241 Revelation 11:17
242 Revelation 12:12
243 Revelation 12:17
244 Revelation 14:5
245 Revelation 15:2
246 Revelation 16:17
247 Revelation 18:20
248 Revelation 20:9
249 Revelation 20:12
250 Revelation 21:24
251 Revelation 22:19
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Omitted from what!? Have you found the originals?
 
NetChaplain

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Dino246 said:
As Lynx as said, take it to the appropriate forum. I'll be happy to deconstruct your blatantly flawed argument there.
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Sorry, didn't see anything from anyone about moving the article.
 
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NetChaplain said:
Sorry, didn't see anything from anyone about moving the article.
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It's downright easy to do.

1.
Ask a moderator to move the thread to BDF.

2.
Just start another thread in BDF.

3.
Just use the OTHER thread you already started in this forum, and ask a moderator to move that one to BDF.
 
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Ted01 said:
Omitted from what!? Have you found the originals?
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Are we to think that God waisted 500 years from neglecting to give us the true Word? There are only two sources of translations; and one of them is corrupted by the Gnostics; and here it is about time for God to wrap up everything.
 
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Lynx said:
It's downright easy to do.

1.
Ask a moderator to move the thread to BDF.

2.
Just start another thread in BDF.

3.
Just use the OTHER thread you already started in this forum, and ask a moderator to move that one to BDF.
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What is BDF?
 
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NetChaplain said:
I never understand your replies! Please be more specific.
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It is a common complaint. Sometimes I'm too oblique for my own good, much less the good of those around me.

KJV has a few rather glaring errors of its own. One of the most notorious is Genesis 49:6. I notice you never did mention that in your list.
 
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NetChaplain said:
Are we to think that God waisted 500 years from neglecting to give us the true Word? There are only two sources of translations; and one of them is corrupted by the Gnostics; and here it is about time for God to wrap up everything.
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"The main sources of evidence are: manuscripts of the New Testament in Greek dating from the 2nd to the 15th century ad (some 5,000 are known); early versions in other languages, such as Syriac, Coptic, Latin, Armenian, and Georgian; and quotations from the New Testament by early Christian writers."
Brittanica.com
 
Lynx

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What is BDF?
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Bible Discussion Forum. It's another subforum, one like this Miscellaneous Forum. In the Bible Discussion Forum they talk about a lot of Bible related topics, including (all too frequently) which Bible version to use.
 
NetChaplain

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Lynx said:
It is a common complaint. Sometimes I'm too oblique for my own good, much less the good of those around me.

KJV has a few rather glaring errors of its own. One of the most notorious is Genesis 49:6. I notice you never did mention that in your list.
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What the detracted translation says is about 50% different than what the Traditional Text says.
 
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Lynx said:
Bible Discussion Forum. It's another subforum, one like this Miscellaneous Forum. In the Bible Discussion Forum they talk about a lot of Bible related topics, including (all too frequently) which Bible version to use.
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Ok, thanks.
 
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Ted01 said:
"The main sources of evidence are: manuscripts of the New Testament in Greek dating from the 2nd to the 15th century ad (some 5,000 are known); early versions in other languages, such as Syriac, Coptic, Latin, Armenian, and Georgian; and quotations from the New Testament by early Christian writers."
Brittanica.com
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Pretty good information! The three codex's before the 4th century are primarily the Vaticanus manuscripts; Sinaiticus manuscripts; Alaxendrinus manuscripts. But rarely is the Alaxendrinus used because its much worse that the other two, esp. in the Gospels. The cpies from the 5th century and later involved the Majority Text, because it is the only source that has thousands of copies.

These three were attributed as unusable by early scribes and so were not used, thus they didn't share the same fate as the Majority copies faced of wearing out. When a copy became near to illegible the copier would copy it, then destroy the exemplar to avoid it being misused.
 
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:rolleyes:

ESV rules!
KJV dr... well, KJV is a perfectly good Bible version, so it doesn't drool. But KJV-only cultists drool!
 
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Lynx said:
:rolleyes:

ESV rules!
KJV dr... well, KJV is a perfectly good Bible version, so it doesn't drool. But KJV-only cultists drool!
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The reason why people trust KJV only is because they are unaware of other translations that come from the same source as the KJV, like the Webster Translation, Young's Literal Translation and about 6 other translations. None of the modern translations derived from the Minority Text contains the entire Word, in fact they come up very short in Scripture because of the omissions.

You can check 1 passage to determine from what source it came. If 1Jn 5:7 is omitted it's from the Minority Text (which has only 3 manuscripts, compared to thousands in the Majority Text), which is the briefed Text, missing much Scripture. The KJV translators were brilliant to employ italicization to let the reader know that it wasn't in the manuscript, but they add words to make the reading correct; and it lets us realize that they were not adding to the Word.

A good example of italicization is that 2Sam 21:19 passage. the phrase "the brother of" wasn't in the manuscript so they italicized it, to concur with the reiteration in 2Chron 20:5, which has no italics. If we look at 1Jn 5:7 it isn't in italics because the KJV translators saw enough manuscript evidence to include it.
 
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