The court ruling on LGBT ENDS THIS DEBATE

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Fundaamental

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you have to provide that. not make it up.
I did you never saw it.

Why did you not see it.

Because

You had me on ignore

For a reasonable argument I put forward.

You can't accept

Because it goes against everything you know and believe.

If LGBTQ people choose to believe God has made them the way they are and still choose to love God, who can blame them when birth defects of intersex chromosomes are now proven.
 

Fundaamental

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Gemder is either a boy or a girl Sex is either male or female


Women, girl, Female = the same thing

men, boy, male = the same thing

Yet they are all different words to describe gender and sex. These are also two different words that are synonyms.

in context to men and women species
Gender: the male sex or the female sex,

Sex: either of the two main categories male and female
mixed intersex chromosomes now proven

  • Mixed genitals and sex organs: A person who is intersex may have ovarian and testicular tissue (ovotestes). For example, you may have genitals that are associated with being assigned male at birth (AMAB), like a penis. At the same time, you may have internal reproductive anatomy or hormone levels more closely associated with being assigned female at birth (AFAB), like estrogen.
What are sex, gender and gender identity?
Sex and gender are not the same. Key differences include:

  • Sex refers to the male or female label healthcare providers assigned you at birth based on your genitals. This label goes on birth certificates. Chromosomes, hormone levels and reproductive anatomy play roles in determining sex.
  • Gender is a social construct based on societal or cultural beliefs about how people should act based on their sex.
  • Gender identity refers to how your feel inside, regardless of the binary male or female label you were assigned at birth. It can influence how you choose to present yourself through your appearance and behaviors.
Reading from the above sex is only determined on what there genitals look like. And in extreme cases what appears to be the more dominant of mixed genitals on the out side but not the inside

Sexual orientation is only determined by social values.

So the argument is for people with mixed intersex chromosomes should have the right to choose there identity based on how they feal inside when they get older, as a lot of cases can't be fully determined until puberty when they show signs.

This is why the law protects theese people.
 

Fundaamental

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you have to provide that. not make it up.
what about people born with mixed intersex chromosomes ?



Studies confirms it effects 1 in 100 people.

In very rare case babies are born with a mix of female and male genitals.

In the not so rare case it effects them differently from having a mix of tissue cells of both male and female.

In other cases it's not identified until later in. life.

If such a person feals they are more female than male inside or vice versa they can be granted a sex change by a hospital.

Which means what ?

They can not at this moment in time prove mixed intersex chromosomes effect there sexual orientation or gender.

But obviously recognise how they feel inside is important.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Are all these sin still punishable by death to

1. Murder (Ex 21:12,14)(Lev 24:17,21)(Num 35:16-21,30-31)
2. Kidnapping (Ex 21:16)(Deut 24:7)
3. Child sacrifice (Lev 20:2)
4. Both the man and woman who commit adultery (Lev 20:10)(Deut 22:22-24)
5. Rape (Deut 22:25)
6. Daughter of a priest who became a prostitute (Lev 21:9)
7. An idolater (Ex 22:20)(Deut 17:2-5)(Num 25:1-5)
8. Breaking the Sabbath (Ex 31:14)(Ex 35:2)(Num 15:32-36)
9. A woman having sex before marriage (Deut 22:21-22)
10. Homosexuality (Lev 20:13)
11. A man and his father’s wife who have sex (Lev 20:11)
12. A man and daughter-in-law who have sex (Lev 20:12)
13. A man who marries a woman and her mother (all 3 must die) (Lev 20:14)
14. Bestiality (Sex with an animal) (Ex 22:19)(Lev 20:15-16)
15. A false prophet (Deut 13:5)(Deut 18:20)
16. A false witness (Deut 19:16-21)
17. A disobedient son (Deut 21:18-21)
18. A child who strikes his father or mother (Ex 21:15)
19. A child who curses his father or mother (Ex 21:17)(Lev 20:9)
20. Men who are fighting and hit a pregnant woman, causing her lose her baby (Ex 21:22-25)
21. A man whose ox kills someone after previously goring other people (Ex 21:28-29)
22. A sorceress (Ex 22:18)
23. A medium or spiritist (Lev 20:27)
24. A brother, son, daughter, wife, or friend who entices you to go after other gods (Deut 13:6-11)
25. Everyone in any town that entices people to go after other gods (Deut 13:12-15)
26. A blasphemer (Lev 24:10-16,23)
27. Anyone who failed to abide by a decision of the court (Deut 17:8-12)
28. Any non-Levite who tried to set up or take down the Tabernacle (Num 1:51)
Who said anything about punishment by death?
What i posted said, may not enter the assembly.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Now, when was this writeen and how much did we know about sexuality and epigenetics in those days? If the bible told you to walk down main street with your pants off would you do that too?
The Bible is the foundation of truth. So if the Bible says something its best to believe it.
 

Fundaamental

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Who said anything about punishment by death?
What i posted said, may not enter the assembly.
Your just using scripture to condem LGBTQ, and you know you are.

Youve already used Sodom and gomorrah, which was about a bunch of crooks who wouldn't welcome strangers as well.

Which is a bit like you.
LGBTQ are also strangers

The passage you speak of people in Deuteronomy 23.1 could be about transgenders but it may not be.

Secondly the very next verse in Deuteronomy says bastards will not enter the assembly

Is that still the case ?.

Lastly there is the belief that the closest translation to transgenders is eunuchs


Mathew
19:12, while discussing divorce Jesus says, "for there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can." In other words, he acknowledges that eunuchs exist, but he does not condemn them

Then there's this

For thus says the Lord: To the eunuchs who keep my Sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant, 5 I will give, in my house and within my walls, a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off.
 

Aaron56

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Youve already used Sodom and gomorrah, which was about a bunch of crooks who wouldn't welcome strangers as well.
You can’t be serious.

5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

And you say it’s about a low standard of hospitality?
 

Fundaamental

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You can’t be serious.

5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

And you say it’s about a low standard of hospitality?
I'm serious do you need more proof sodom was not just about sexual immorality being destroyed.
 

Aaron56

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I'm serious do you need more proof sodom was not just about sexual immorality being destroyed.
Compensatory history now?

The whole world knows what “sodomy” is, what a sodomite does, and what the story of Sodom was all about. Give me a break.
(narrator: “It was at that moment Aaron56 used the ignore button”)
 

Fundaamental

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Compensatory history now?

The whole world knows what “sodomy” is, what a sodomite does, and what the story of Sodom was all about. Give me a break.
Genesis 19:1-13 The Sodom & Gomorrah story is preceded by examples of Abraham and Lot being very welcoming to strangers. The lack of hospitality and the desire to do violence to the visitors were considered grave transgressions, regardless of the gender of the visitors. The reference in Jude 1:7 to “strange flesh” likely refers to the fact that the angels they wanted to assault were not human. “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.” (Ezekiel 16:49)
 

Fundaamental

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Compensatory history now?

The whole world knows what “sodomy” is, what a sodomite does, and what the story of Sodom was all about. Give me a break.
(narrator: “It was at that moment Aaron56 used the ignore button”)
goodbye nice to see you don't like truth.
Ezekiel 16.49


49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

Why should sodomites mean sodomy only ?.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Youve already used Sodom and gomorrah, which was about a bunch of crooks who wouldn't welcome strangers as well.
This is a bold faced lie. I have not brought sodom into this discussion.
 

Fundaamental

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This is a bold faced lie. I have not brought sodom into this discussion.
somebody did I do apologize if it wasn't you.

But besides you have used scriptures to say transgenders won't go to heaven.

As a result of theese comments this is what happens. And bare in mind theese parents where normal parents.

 

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The SCOTUS Ruling, will not end anything. People are Lawless. They will find another way to attack.