Pastor Steven Anderson Defends His Anti-Homosexual Beliefs

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ThereRoseaLamb

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This isn't Steven Anderson.

Also, I have no problem admitting when cops mess up, but this site doesn't tolerate videos which hold police accountable for their unlawful actions. I think they banned an account not that long ago for posting a video which clearly implicated cops covering for drunk driving off-duty cops.

I don't know who it is, but they disobeyed what the cop told them to do. They were warned.I don't agree with bad cops either.
 

ResidentAlien

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Did you childishly change my username?

Go to the nursery.

Do not pass "Go."

Do not collect $200.

And, no, I am not KJV only, so you get nothing but a zero on your mid-terms.
LOL, okay you win. Goodbye.
 

Smoke

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Can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with RA, he baited the police and then pretended to be surprised when they reacted. Calling them Nazi's and carrying on like he didn't deserve it. The officer told both men to be quiet and get off the street. Had they done that there would have been no drama. They didn't listen but kept baiting the cop. They got the result they were looking for, attention. Shame on him, crying little ones scared to death for no reason but his stupidity. As far as his family members I'll just assume they are nutty as he is. smh.
"Baited" the cops with his free speech?

If a cop says to be quiet and get off the streets, we MUST obey? Our civil liberties no longer apply? The irony, Nazis said they were "just following orders", but that didn't exhonorate them from the crimes against humanity that they committed.

You can't blame the pastor for the cop abusing his power.
 

PennEd

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The officer told both men to be quiet and get off the street.
The police do not have the right to tell people to "be quiet".

Where did you get that idea?

And he did call them tyrants prior to being tased, but from what I saw and heard not nazis until after they literally became nazis!


If that is not Anderson, then can someone please post the video RA said Anderson called the police tyrants so I can see if he needs an apology.
 

ResidentAlien

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"Baited" the cops with his free speech?

If a cop says to be quiet and get off the streets, we MUST obey? Our civil liberties no longer apply? The irony, Nazis said they were "just following orders", but that didn't exhonorate them from the crimes against humanity that they committed.

You can't blame the pastor for the cop abusing his power.
Guess what? Cops just doing their jobs aren't Nazis. If any real Nazis show up then we can cross that bridge when we come to it. There's a name for people who can't distinguish between reality and fantasy.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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"Baited" the cops with his free speech?

If a cop says to be quiet and get off the streets, we MUST obey? Our civil liberties no longer apply? The irony, Nazis said they were "just following orders", but that didn't exhonorate them from the crimes against humanity that they committed.

You can't blame the pastor for the cop abusing his power.

Wrong guy... Anderson baits till he gets a reaction.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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The police do not have the right to tell people to "be quiet".

Where did you get that idea?

And he did call them tyrants prior to being tased, but from what I saw and heard not nazis until after they literally became nazis!


If that is not Anderson, then can someone please post the video RA said Anderson called the police tyrants so I can see if he needs an apology.
Everyone is saying it's not Anderson. If the cops are dealing with a situation and they tell you to step back, they tell you to stay back, yes I believe they have that right. We didn't see what happened before all this went down, whether the cops were charged. But they say this isn't Anderson. Anderson does things to get attention, we didn't see what happened before the video started and I don't trust Anderson. Maybe someone can find the truth here.
 

Smoke

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Guess what? Cops just doing their jobs aren't Nazis. If any real Nazis show up then we can cross that bridge when we come to it. There's a name for people who can't distinguish between reality and fantasy.
I think most of us would agree cops doing their job doesn't equate to physically assaulting citizens for practicing constitutionally protected activity (freedom of speech). I certainly won't hold this pastor's feet to the fire for calling him a "Nazi" after he was physically assaulted by the police officer for simply calling him a "tyrant" initially. Is the cop really a "Nazi"? No, Nazis did far more than assault someone for no legitimate reason... but I think we miss the bigger picture if that becomes the focal point of the discussion.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I think most of us would agree cops doing their job doesn't equate to physically assaulting citizens for practicing constitutionally protected activity (freedom of speech). I certainly won't hold this pastor's feet to the fire for calling him a "Nazi" after he was physically assaulted by the police officer for simply calling him a "tyrant" initially. Is the cop really a "Nazi"? No, Nazis did far more than assault someone for no legitimate reason... but I think we miss the bigger picture if that becomes the focal point of the discussion.

As I said, I thought the video is of Anderson. Different person, different situation.
 

Smoke

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Wrong guy... Anderson baits till he gets a reaction.
While not being a devout supporter or advocate of Steven Anderson, he was acquitted in court (rightfully so). The border patrol abused their power and violated his rights. While the Supreme Court ruled that the government can install border checkpoints within a certain distance of the border, it does not require citizens to answer their questions. He was well within his right to not answer questions and allow to the border agents to conduct their investigation without his cooperation.

Furthermore, I would argue it's the "border checkpoint" that baits the citizens to travel freely unmolested by the government. Evidence is the fact the border checkpoint use inaccurate drug sniffing dogs. How can a dog sniff and check if someone is or isn't a US citizen? That's right, it can't! That's because it's really a drug checkpoint (which is not constitutional) disguised as a border checkpoint. Furthermore, these dogs often give false positives and can be signaled to show a car has drugs so that they have probable cause to search the vehicle. That was discovered in this case when the border agents said that their dog sniffed drugs or another person inside the vehicle. And what do you know... they found neither any drugs or another person after they assaulted Steven Anderson.
 

ResidentAlien

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I think most of us would agree cops doing their job doesn't equate to physically assaulting citizens for practicing constitutionally protected activity (freedom of speech). I certainly won't hold this pastor's feet to the fire for calling him a "Nazi" after he was physically assaulted by the police officer for simply calling him a "tyrant" initially. Is the cop really a "Nazi"? No, Nazis did far more than assault someone for no legitimate reason... but I think we miss the bigger picture if that becomes the focal point of the discussion.
You're right, carry on with the bigger picture.
 

PennEd

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If the cops are dealing with a situation and they tell you to step back, they tell you to stay back, yes I believe they have that right.
The police have a right to create reasonable space between onlookers and perpetrators.

Watch the first 30 seconds again. The Pastor was WELL away from the officer and anything else that was going on.

The cop SOLELY chased and assaulted this guy because he called him a tyrant. The cop cannot order him to be either quiet or go inside.

How can any American be ok with this?

And believe me, I have seen scores of Antifa, and BLM protesters going waaay beyond what this guy did, and was glad when once in a very little while, some of them got arrested.

I hope this guy sued the officers and whole dang town!
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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The police have a right to create reasonable space between onlookers and perpetrators.

Watch the first 30 seconds again. The Pastor was WELL away from the officer and anything else that was going on.

The cop SOLELY chased and assaulted this guy because he called him a tyrant. The cop cannot order him to be either quiet or go inside.

How can any American be ok with this?

And believe me, I have seen scores of Antifa, and BLM protesters going waaay beyond what this guy did, and was glad when once in a very little while, some of them got arrested.

I hope this guy sued the officers and whole dang town!

Dems deny Antifa even exists. Since Jan 6 we know that no Dems will be held accountable for anything they do. But every single Repub. that they can round up that was within 100 miles of Jan 6 will see prison time. Again, wrong person, wrong situation, I already cleared this up. But I wonder where is the outcry of Americans standing for the people innocently arrested and some doing time for Jan 6?! I would have thought Americans would be in the streets demanding the footage and the truth, but mainly there is silence. I find that frightening.
 

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Yes, let us cue those who are truly seeking the mind of Christ.
Yes, they do. It is called discernment.
I never claimed to be perfect, so give it a rest. Jesus said that his disciples will be known by their love for one another. Steven Anderson is full of hate. Connect the dots.

I'm connecting dots of hate right here, starting with this thread.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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While not being a devout supporter or advocate of Steven Anderson, he was acquitted in court (rightfully so). The border patrol abused their power and violated his rights. While the Supreme Court ruled that the government can install border checkpoints within a certain distance of the border, it does not require citizens to answer their questions. He was well within his right to not answer questions and allow to the border agents to conduct their investigation without his cooperation.


Furthermore, I would argue it's the "border checkpoint" that baits the citizens to travel freely unmolested by the government. Evidence is the fact the border checkpoint use inaccurate drug sniffing dogs. How can a dog sniff and check if someone is or isn't a US citizen? That's right, it can't! That's because it's really a drug checkpoint (which is not constitutional) disguised as a border checkpoint. Furthermore, these dogs often give false positives and can be signaled to show a car has drugs so that they have probable cause to search the vehicle. That was discovered in this case when the border agents said that their dog sniffed drugs or another person inside the vehicle. And what do you know... they found neither any drugs or another person after they assaulted Steven Anderson
Not the same video. Not the same situation. I hadn't even gotten to the bottom of the story here you are talking about. Now I know. At least I think... I don't what run ins he's had with the cops. One or twenty. He's not in jail so that subject is moot. But as a "man of God" he isn't. That I will stand on!! His issues with the law I don't know. But he is no man of God. And as radical as he is I'm surprised he's not in more trouble with the law. So back to the subject as him being a pastor, no, he in no way should be leading a church.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Ignore my last message, I was responding to posts in order and just came across this. I appreciate it and no problem. :)
Here's an interview where he gives his side of what happened. The face book post and a couple in this thread didn't even listen closely to hear. They ran with the false accusation that was originally intended to deceive and blow an already volatile situation out of proper context in their minds.

Interview with Brother Anderson

Blessings
 

Cameron143

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I watched the video and had he cooperated I think he would have been allowed to proceed. It was as though he desired a reaction so it began with him. But what ensued is unconscionable. Law enforcement is trained to deescalate situations and common courtesy could have kept anything from happening.
On a moral level, the pastor was wrong. Suffering for the cause of Christ is one thing. Helping to bring it on yourself is another. The law enforcement officers involved were criminal in their behavior and should be tried and be dealt with severely if found guilty.
 

PennEd

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Here's an interview where he gives his side of what happened. The face book post and a couple in this thread didn't even listen closely to hear. They ran with the false accusation that was originally intended to deceive and blow an already volatile situation out of proper context in their minds.

Interview with Brother Anderson

Blessings
I respect you greatly H&H, but the more I hear this guy, the more convinced I am that he is bad news, and doesn't represent how Christ told his disciples to act.

We can agree homosexuality is sin. Without any reservations or qualifications, but
Just watching a few minutes of him on executing homosexuals reminded me of this admonition from the Lord.

Luke 9:54-56

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54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?”
55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” And they went to another village.

Where does Jesus call anyone to be executed before the judgement?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I respect you greatly H&H, but the more I hear this guy, the more convinced I am that he is bad news, and doesn't represent how Christ told his disciples to act.

We can agree homosexuality is sin. Without any reservations or qualifications, but
Just watching a few minutes of him on executing homosexuals reminded me of this admonition from the Lord.

Luke 9:54-56

New King James Version

54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?”
55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” And they went to another village.

Where does Jesus call anyone to be executed before the judgement?
He is a false preacher if there ever was one. He issues with the law aside. He has just said and preached radical things. He's horribly anti-Semitic and just bizarre in what he preaches. I assume he's doing it for attention, but I also think he's also not quite all there.