question: Can an unsaved person be baptized in the Holy Spirit?

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CS1

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Seorsum said:
For saying it to you, yes, I was.
I am embarrassed and I hope you will accept my deepest apology.
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No problem. if you would like to know what I think about your question, please ask it again, I will answer it as respectfully and truthfully as I can.


Thank you
 
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Lamar said:
Do you really believe this???

What gall!

Have you no bounds!

I have met many non-cessionists and this is way too common among them.
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he did say he was wrong for those comments. :) I am a non-cessationist and called him on it :)
 
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CS1 said:
No problem. if you would like to know what I think about your question, please ask it again, I will answer it as respectfully and truthfully as I can.

Thank you
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I really didn't have a question. My comments were in response to DJT_42 and Lamar's stance that water baptism was a requirement for salvation.

BTW: It was my zeal to show them wrong and a little anger (which I should not have had) that led to my comment about your GIF.
I actually thought it was funny.
 
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Seorsum said:
I really didn't have a question. My comments were in response to DJT_42 and Lamar's stance that water baptism was a requirement for salvation.

BTW: It was my zeal to show them wrong and a little anger (which I should not have had) that led to my comment about your GIF.
I actually thought it was funny.
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hey, I am not perfect. I have done the same let's move on from that, please.
 
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George71 said:
Can unsaved person be baptized in the Holy Spirit?
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Hello George,

I would say no because faith is key to our relationship with God. With faith all things are possible, without faith nothing is possible.

But without faith it is impossible to please Him. For he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. (Hebrews 11:6) God Bless You :)
 
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My last thought here for today, on topic.
No, I don't think a non-believer can receive baptism of The Holy Spirit. Only a true believer can achieve that.
But, that doesn't mean He isn't near.
 
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Lamar said:
Do you really believe this???

What gall!

Have you no bounds!

I have met many non-cessionists and this is way too common among them.
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God said touch not my anointed so yeah I absolutely believe it.
 
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How can the Bible make a statement that is from God and we think it's not for Today?

I serve a God who is the SAME yesterday Today and forever.

So, If it happens in the Bible, why do we think that changes because it's 2,000 years later?

If God was how God was 2,000 years ago, then God is the same Today because He NEVER CHANGES.
 
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Show me how God changed from Adam to when Jesus was here?

People like Pharisees changed and Jesus told them about but God didn't change in 4,000 years to that point.

Now, it's 2,000 years later, why would God change when He hasn't for the first 6,000 years?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
Show me how God changed from Adam to when Jesus was here?

People like Pharisees changed and Jesus told them about but God didn't change in 4,000 years to that point.

Now, it's 2,000 years later, why would God change when He hasn't for the first 6,000 years?
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God hasn't changed because He can't. But He has dealt with people differently over the course of history. The immutability of God doesn't preclude Him from changing the way He does things.
 
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God hasn't changed because He can't. But He has dealt with people differently over the course of history. The immutability of God doesn't preclude Him from changing the way He does things.
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But, there's nothing in the New Testament that says what we read stops.

So, why do people believe just the opposite?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
But, there's nothing in the New Testament that says what we read stops.

So, why do people believe just the opposite?
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It's their understanding of scripture. You don't have to agree with it. But there's no reason to let it rob you of your joy. Try your best to share truth and leave the results to God.
 
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Also, since only pastors and Evangelists are left, who was the supposed PROPHET that said Tongues has Ceased?

There's no preacher in past 1800 years been qualified to make that claim.
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
Show me how God changed from Adam to when Jesus was here?

People like Pharisees changed and Jesus told them about but God didn't change in 4,000 years to that point.

Now, it's 2,000 years later, why would God change when He hasn't for the first 6,000 years?
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Okay, God stopped sending the blessings of manna to the Israelites. They could no longer rely on the supernatural supply of food.
God did not tell them that this supernatural blessing was going to end.

He just stopped it. No warning.

Joshua 5:12
 
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Seriously, only a Prophet can Announce when God has ended a way He was doing things.

So, WHO, is this Prophet in past 1900 years to say, God stopped Speaking in Tongues?
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
Also, since only pastors and Evangelists are left, who was the supposed PROPHET that said Tongues has Ceased?

There's no preacher in past 1800 years been qualified to make that claim.
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Why would you need a "PROPHET" to say "Tongues has Ceased"???

What would be the purpose?
 
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