Is Physical Healing Provided In The Atonement?

Your Faith is never enough -----as you cannot Heal yourself by your faith------only Jesus can Heal you ------your Faith is in Jesus who has the power --the ability to heal you ------Healing is a sore spot for many people ---it takes Faith in Jesus that is grounded and rooted and steadfast so that nothing can move you from getting that healing -----like Salvation ---Healing is made available to all True Christians by God's Grace --Steadfast unwavering Faith in Jesus to heal you Receives that Healing ----Faith always receives what Grace who is Jesus-- has made available ------Faith requires action ------Speaking your Faith out is your action -----

To receive your Salvation ----scripture says ----say with your mouth ----Jesus is Lord--- etc ---by doing this your putting your faith into action ------you will speak out what you have confidence in ------the First command has to be adhered to ---- Love God with all your heart --soul --mind and strength ----we say we love God but we really don't love Him will all our heart --soul mind and strength -----we have wives --children etc who we have to love and give time to ----so to say we really Agape God with all our--Heart - Mind -Soul and strength we are just kidding ourselves ------

Also you have to speak healing and not sickness -----if you start sneezing and you say ---OH I am getting a cold ----you have just spoke out your faith in the negative -----you want healing but you speak out sickness ------If you really study healing --you will find out that YOUR WORDS are very powerful and will produce what you say -----

Words are things -----Davar---God spoke out His faith words and He created what he said ---we are made in God's image -----in the NEW TESTAMENT ---the word is Rhema Word is the Spoken Word -----

https://www.thejc.com/judaism/jewish-words/davar-1.5953

Davar means "word," and it also means "thing." This fact reflects a deep facet of a Jewish world view.

Words are the creative energy of the world. God spoke, and through words brought the universe into being.
The kabbalists tell us that reality itself is forged from combinations of the 22 Hebrew letters. There is a mystical correspondence between a word and what it refers to.
We, too, create our world and the things of our lives through words.

Fear also plays a part in sickness --Fear tolerated is faith Contaminated ---

Holding grudges toward others ---unforgiveness plays a part in not being healed -----unbelief in God's Healing plays a part the stresses of this life -----also contribute -----all these things attack True Christians as well as unbelievers ------

Scripture gives you all that you need to work on to get your healing ----

Then there is this -------God heals on His time NOT our time ----so ---many if they don't get healing right away will cave in and quit the process cause they think that God doesn't want them healed ---or healing doesn't work -----so that don't get their healing -----

I haven't been to a Doctor in about 15 years ---no sickness --no diseases ----I use to get bronchitis every winter and very bad migraine headaches ---colds etc -----and decided I didn't need to be sick so i started the process and it took me 2 years to master what I needed to do and I haven't been sick since -----it is so freeing to be able to look after a lady who God directed me to and never had to take time away because of being sick -----

It takes much research and work to get healed -----you need to grow your Faith in Jesus and be like the woman with the Blood disease who had that unwavering Faith to get to Jesus who she trusted to heal her --just by touching His garment -----and all the others who never gave up on their Faith in Jesus to heal them or their loved ones pushing through crowds of people to get to Him no matter what others were shouting -----unwavering Faith in their Great Physician to get healed -----

it takes steadfast work ----to stay the course -----so getting healed is a process and you need the stamina to stay the course and wait on God's time -----He knows the best time to heal you we don't ----


One big thing that God says is this ------no wavering ---on this ---

Mark 11:24

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For this reason I am telling you, whatever things you ask for in prayer [in accordance with God’s will], believe [with confident trust] that you have received them, and they will be given to you.

It says ---they WILL BE GIVEN TO YOU------this is a Promise ---and Healing is God's will for His Children

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This is ridiculous nonsense. Bosworth taught the underlying cause of sickness was spiritual. Remove the spiritual sickness and physical sickness goes too. According to this idea, every single person on the planet who suffers from sickness has some spiritual sickness that hasn't been dealt with; even believers. Faith healers have to teach this so no will notice they really don't have the power to heal. It's the responsibility of the person asking to be healed. No healing? Must be no faith or some spiritual reason.

Another thing I did was to get healing scriptures and posted them by my treadmill and every day while working out I repeated the scriptures out loud declaring my Faith in God's word to do as it says ----

--speaking out God's will for us is a plus ----what is in your heart the mouth will speak -----your heart and mouth are connected ------if in your heart you don't believe in healing ----then that is what you will speak out -----unbelief -----



I found this and it is worth the read ------for those who do believe in physical healing -----this person says it well -----

https://www.jessicahottle.com/10-healing-scriptures/

"Every true Christian believes that spiritual healing, salvation of the soul from
sin, is to be found only in the death of Christ, but there is disagreement as to
whether His death is supposed to provide physical health also for the believer.
Some teach that Christ bore our sicknesses upon the Cross as well as our sins,
and that it is therefore as much the will of God that we be healed of sickness
as to be saved from sin.

Since salvation is received through faith, healing must come in the same
manner, and if one is not healed it proves he doesn’t have faith. If the
premise of this argument is true, i. e. that Christ died for our sickness and
that God is not willing that any should be sick, then the above conclusion
logically follows; but we ask: Is the premise true?

This teaching is based upon Matthew 8:17: “Himself took our infirmities, and
bare our sicknesses,” a quotation from Isaiah 53:4. But the all important thing
to see is that Jesus fulfilled this scripture three years before His death. He was
bearing their sicknesses all during His earthly ministry, but He never bore any
one’s sins until He died upon the tree. Since the Bible declares that He fulfilled
the work of bearing sicknesses before Has death, any teaching is proved false
which claims He fulfilled that work in His death.

The second important fact is found in the word “bare”. Peter tells us that Christ
“bare our sins in his own body on the tree.” This word is “anaphero” in the Greek,
and means to bring to the altar or to offer a sacrifice. It is used in Hebrews 9:28:


and most significantly the translators of the Septuagint chose this word in
Isaiah 53:12: “and he bare the sins of many.” But there is an entirely different
word used regarding the bearing of sickness in Matthew 8:17. It is “bastazo”
and means to lift or to carry or to endure. It is never used of bearing sins.
This is the same word John the Baptist used in Matthew 3:11: “whose shoes
I am not worthy to bear.”

Paul used it in Galatians 6:2: “bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the
law of Christ.” Paul asked Christians to do in Romans 15:1 exactly what Christ
did: “bear the infirmities (or sicknesses) of the weak,” but he never told any
Christian to bear the sins of another. And again, most significantly the
Septuagint uses this same word in Isaiah 53:4: “surely he hath borne our
griefs, and carried our sorrows.” Thus Christ bore sicknesses in an altogether
different sense from which He bore sins.

The third fact is based upon logic. If healing is in the atonement to the same
extent as salvation, then one possesses salvation to the extent he enjoys
physical health. But since all Christians in the past have died, and mostly
from disease, this would prove that all had lost salvation; for all surely
lost health.

Fourthly, Paul, the model Christian, gloried in his infirmities (II Corinthians 11:30;
II Corinthians 12:9 and 10—this word means sickness, the same word as used in
Matthew 8:17). If sickness is contrary to the will of God, then Paul gloried in being
out of the will of God, and it was the Grace of God which taught him to do it.

Fifthly, this teaching denies such Scriptures as Romans 8:23: “but ourselves also,
which have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves,
waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.” Yes, praise God, our
salvation includes a body as perfect as Christ’s own glorious body, but none will
receive it until the resurrection for which we wait.

Lastly, let it be noticed that God promised health to Israel along with other
temporal blessings. He revealed Himself as Jehovah-Ropheca, the Lord that
healeth thee (Exodus 15:26). See also Deuteronomy 28:1 to 14. But not one
of these promises can be found directed to the Body of Christ, but often just
the opposite. God not only promised to heal but to make rich (Deuteronomy
28:11 and 12). Therefore if you are not rich it is just as much a sign of
unfaithfulness as if you are sick.

Surely we believe that God hears and answers prayer for the sick, but Plain
Scripture forbids us to believe that healing is in the atonement or that
sickness brands one as unfaithful or disobedient." (CF Baker)

Amen.

Its written Acts "This man was listening to Paul as he spoke, and Paul looked intently at him and saw that he had faith to be healed,"

Acts 3 I think "And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all."

James "But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;"

Were talking about faith something that is greatly lacking. Take Enoch he pleased God.. faith. By faith Enoch was translated. I have and other ministers have seen is when some try to stand in faith the enemy comes "And these are the ones by the wayside where the word is sown. When they hear, Satan comes immediately and takes away the word that was sown in their hearts. ".

I made a mistake something I don't do that is I think its here talking about healing and I boasted a bit. See I never say "I have never been sick since blah blah blah". But I did say something.. so guess what happened the very next day? I don't know if it was the flu or corvid (Never took the shot). I can not as God as my witness and Father not to boast ..forgive me the last time I had the flu. I have never taken the flu shot. So what happen the very next day was 102-102 temp for 2 days that's gone still feel blah...but when this body shows 102 temp? OH man its time to PRAISE HIM OVER AND OVER.. worship Him knowing just from the OT He takes away al my sickness. See as Isaac was I am a Child or promise. I am grafted into that vine.. I am to God like any other Jewish believer. Well look at a tree.... say allot of branches were grafted it.. you couldn't tell.. all you know is its ONE BODY! He is the vine. Incase you don't believe those promises are yours. FAITH works both ways. You keep saying this or that does not happen blah blah blah Gods not going against your will. Find what GOD said.. not even ANYTHING I said here..do NOT believe me. You seek you pray.. what would happen if YOU no matter what you see or hear or feel just stood on His word? OOH but is there ANYTHING between you and the Father? Yeah.. that will hinder this. Repent do a 180.. forgive your self. HE IS A GREAT AWESOME GOD.. I humble myself and Father I am sorry boasted.. thank you.

Then the 3rd day something else that has not happen in years is my chest...oh blood of Jesus haha that hurt... but I am not moved by what I see hear or feel. This is NOT something I just started believing yesterday. I been doing this since I was 12+ ANYONE can pray and ask Him if I am lying about anything. HAHA guess what song is playing.. you will LOVE THIS. THOUSANDS of songs.. yet this is whats playing

"Praise The lord" "so when the devil come trying to get me gonna praise the lord". That is written. Its through out the NT.

Side note. I heard this preacher talk about when the vail was torn and now we can go in? I like what he said "no.. GOD CAME OUT! There was more to that but.. no more vail

Just wrong. Forgiveness and healing go hand in hand. Sometimes forgiveness is blocked, for example, if we hold unforgiveness in our hearts. it does not mean that we are going to hell, it does mean that fellowship with God is hindered. When Jesus was condemned for forgiving sin (which He did as well as healing the sick), He said, "Cop this, Pharisees! I'll heal this man as well!" O.K., that's my paraphrase. Surely this is a reference to Psalm 103. Jesus healed the Gentile as well as the Jew.

The New Testament quotes Isaiah 53 (1 Peter 2:24), both the healing and forgiveness aspects.

The root of sickness is sin. Anyone who thinks that they no longer sin is deluded. God uses sickness in the believer's life just as He did in Israel's experience. We need to remember that all sickness comes from Satan. If we let our guard down, we may suffer. I've discovered this in my own experience.

God is not a computer program that must respond according to the input. When I was a very young Christian, I struggled constantly with illness and I never had enough money. God's will is that we prosper, but not so much that we stop depending on Him. "Rich" is subjective. Compared to Bill Gates, I have little. Compared to billions of other people, I am rich. I have no complaints, my needs are met and I am content. That is true riches.

Healing will come if you stay the course -----it is a process




Matthew 13:18-23 (NIV):

18 “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means:

19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is the seed sown along the path.

I say -----how many understand fully the Kingdom and is free from Satan who snatches away the seed sown in their heart ---no one this takes work to master -----

20 The one who received the seed that fell on rocky places is the man who hears the word and at once receives it with joy.
21 But since he has no root, he lasts only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, he quickly falls away.

I say --you have to stay the course --------develop a Faith that is deep rooted -----so nothing knocks your faith in your healing off the path -----


22 The one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke it, making it unfruitful.

I say --------you have to overcome this

23 But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the word and understands it. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”

I say -----------If you think you can master having Good soils right away then your decieved -------

This all takes time and practice and work on our part ------

Faith that is Rooted and Grounded in Christ is needed

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how do you reconcile the method you have proposed with John 15 and abiding in Christ? In other words, how is operating by performing certain acts to get a result from God any different from the Pharisees, independent of God, attempting to fulfill the law to acquire its promises