Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ThereRoseaLamb

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If a person were able to look Into Donald Trumps heart and see his true Intentions and It showed that he really only cares about himself and not about making America great again,would you still vote for him?

Please don't deflect with your answer but read the question and answer the question FIRST then add deflection secondly If you want to.

That's called a judgement call.
 

JTB

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I really think you do not understand politics.
The two are not mutually exclusive.

He can care only about himself which is creating a legacy which involves making America great again.
YOU do not really understand politics. Or personality dynamics.

And at this point I truly don't believe anything I say to you will impact that. So I'm going to wish you well, bless you, and good luck in your future endeavors.

And don't worry, it doesn't matter where the debate goes, your boy trump will win in 24.
 

JTB

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Can you be more specific? I mean I don't know anyone 40 and over who doesn't have at least some knowledge of the damage socialism, Marxism, Communism can do to a country. Would you explain your comments a little more?
Lemmee put it this way ... Jesus taught people how they should live. But did He ever FORCE anyone to live in that way? Or were they FREE to ignore His teachings and do what they wanted, no matter the future spiritual cost?

You want people to live according to Jesus teachings (an honorable wish). But are you willing to FORCE them into it if they don't go along freely?

So again, I rephrase the question I posited earlier. Is this country not based on personal freedom, and are you willing to let people be free (even to their own detriment), or are you looking to form a Christian dictatorship and force them into compliance?
 

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Was King David a good or bad king?
King David was both good and bad. He was probably at his worst when he took Uriah the Hittite's wife and then set up Uriah to die in battle. He was probably at his best when singing and dancing to God and writing what we know now to be psalms inspired by God.
 

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That's called a judgement call.
what is not a judgement call is that he is a shameless, pattern liar.
that is plain & evident truth, regardless of his "alternative facts"

sadly what is also not a judgement call is that a large number of Americans, even a very large number of Americans who describe themselves as 'Christians' simply do not care whether he is a liar or a criminal. it's been widely known and publicized ever since he first campaigned that he openly lies, constantly, and that he flaunts the law.
 

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what is not a judgement call is that he is a shameless, pattern liar.
that is plain & evident truth, regardless of his "alternative facts"

sadly what is also not a judgement call is that a large number of Americans, even a very large number of Americans who describe themselves as 'Christians' simply do not care whether he is a liar or a criminal. it's been widely known and publicized ever since he first campaigned that he openly lies, constantly, and that he flaunts the law.
It's kind of like having a heathen king being used to deliver God's people out of Babylon. The children of Israel didn't like God's choice of method. Nevertheless, we still have this treasure in earthen vessels so the power may be seen to be from him and the glory accrued to His great name.
 

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Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?
Yeah, when he dissed John McCain for being captured and made a prisoner of war. Being a former military member that did not set right with me. The military is the only government institution that I respect. Trump lost my respect for saying what he did. Deplorable.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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what is not a judgement call is that he is a shameless, pattern liar.
that is plain & evident truth, regardless of his "alternative facts"
So is Biden, so did Hillary when she ran against him. So did Obama when he said he was against homosexual marriage and then lit up the WH to celebrate it. Bush took us into a war they said we could win, then realized we couldn't and never told Americans. He daddy said "no new taxes" and we know what happened there. So if you're not going to vote for a politician because they stretch the truth, or lie, or twist facts, stay home!


sadly what is also not a judgement call is that a large number of Americans, even a very large number of Americans who describe themselves as 'Christians' simply do not care whether he is a liar or a criminal. it's been widely known and publicized ever since he first campaigned that he openly lies, constantly, and that he flaunts the law.
Americans have been putting "liars" in office a long time before Trump. I didn't live state side when Clinton was re-elected but I went to a large Christian convention, well known, all denominations. As we asked about Clintions situation we heard constantly " that's his private life, has nothing to do with his job as a president". That tune changed for Trump pretty fast. If you could look at the votes I bet you'd find a lot of Christians voted for Clinton a second time, and no one has committed more crimes than the Clintons unless its the Bidens.
 

Niki7

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You’re NOT an American citizen? :eek: Wow, I thought you were hardcore American by the way you talk.
So now I’m curious where are you from.
I also don’t vote by the way cos it’s pointless and I‘m also not born in U.S.
No secret. Guess you missed those posts. Canadian. Hardcore Canadian. :giggle: I think we are a well kept secret to the North.
 

Niki7

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what is not a judgement call is that he is a shameless, pattern liar.
that is plain & evident truth, regardless of his "alternative facts"

sadly what is also not a judgement call is that a large number of Americans, even a very large number of Americans who describe themselves as 'Christians' simply do not care whether he is a liar or a criminal. it's been widely known and publicized ever since he first campaigned that he openly lies, constantly, and that he flaunts the law.


Notwithstanding his own soul has been bought and paid for a looooooog time ago.

smh
 

Niki7

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Well there ya go. The perfect answer to all things Trump.

What am I missing here? :unsure:
 

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The people who bash Christians that support President Donald John Trump, at best have a screw loose and know not what they say, or at worst have sold their souls and are are just repeating what their demon masters tell them to say.

Nuf said.
 

ResidentAlien

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The people who bash Christians that support President Donald John Trump, at best have a screw loose and know not what they say, or at worst have sold their souls and are are just repeating what their demon masters tell them to say.

Nuf said.
You sound like a pretty stable guy yourself.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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The people who bash Christians that support President Donald John Trump, at best have a screw loose and know not what they say, or at worst have sold their souls and are are just repeating what their demon masters tell them to say.

Nuf said.
Yeah, nobody likes it when it's thrown back at them.
 

Niki7

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The people who bash Christians that support President Donald John Trump, at best have a screw loose and know not what they say, or at worst have sold their souls and are are just repeating what their demon masters tell them to say.

Nuf said.
I don't want to take it that far and I am not even a Trump forever person...he has a got a problem with his mouth....but this country is becoming a 3rd world contender awful fast. We did have stability with Trump and the problems and divisions were caused by the left

Spiritual wickedness in high places is very busy in the WH these days
 

ZNP

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I don't want to take it that far and I am not even a Trump forever person...he has a got a problem with his mouth....but this country is becoming a 3rd world contender awful fast. We did have stability with Trump and the problems and divisions were caused by the left

Spiritual wickedness in high places is very busy in the WH these days
Yep, this is what many miss, is that this isn't simply a matter of who Americans prefer, the whole world is watching. Why do you think they are selling US bonds, and they are dumping them as quickly as they can while trying to not start a full scale stampede. You can say the economy is strong, inflation is down, yada, yada, yada, but they are not stupid, they have already determined that the US is no longer the country you can trust in.
 

Niki7

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Yep, this is what many miss, is that this isn't simply a matter of who Americans prefer, the whole world is watching. Why do you think they are selling US bonds, and they are dumping them as quickly as they can while trying to not start a full scale stampede. You can say the economy is strong, inflation is down, yada, yada, yada, but they are not stupid, they have already determined that the US is no longer the country you can trust in.
True. I believe that the US has been downgraded twice now? Must be making Mr O's wife happy since she hates the place. Well not the mansions and adoration of her fans but you know, all the other stuff and those founding father guys
 

ZNP

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True. I believe that the US has been downgraded twice now? Must be making Mr O's wife happy since she hates the place. Well not the mansions and adoration of her fans but you know, all the other stuff and those founding father guys
Does Michelle identify as "her"?