Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ThereRoseaLamb

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It's my opinion Mr Trump is the worst candidate for the office, and I'm sickened by the charade of faux-religiosity put on in order to buy the votes of Christians.

He is a very dangerous and deceitful, power-hungry and vain man.
Mmm I feel the same way about Biden and Hillary.
 

ZNP

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It's my opinion Mr Trump is the worst candidate for the office, and I'm sickened by the charade of faux-religiosity put on in order to buy the votes of Christians.

He is a very dangerous and deceitful, power-hungry and vain man.
Seeing that you are such an astute judge of character you must be very proud of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Karine Jean Pierre, Christopher Wray, Alejandro Mayorkas, Merrick Garland, etc.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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OK, but some people are deaf and some are hard of hearing. So although everyone has two opinions, some of them have nothing to do with what is being said and others are always yelling and screaming about their opinions which to be fair, have not considered all the evidence.
Well I find most of these Dem leaning people are hypocritical with this particular opinion. They see everything wrong with Trump and nothing wrong with Biden. Or Biden isn't on the same level "bad" as Trump. Sippin that kool aide.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Seeing that you are such an astute judge of character you must be very proud of Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Karine Jean Pierre, Christopher Wray, Alejandro Mayorkas, Merrick Garland, etc.

My land, talk about lies!! Biden can't open his mouth without a lie falling out!! Corn pop was a bad dude!!! rofl KJP is paid to lie with a straight face and does it well. Mayorkas couldn't tell the truth if it reached out and kicked him in the pants!!! The border is closed?! smh Wray doesn't know his behind from elbow and Harris, miss giggle pants, is just stunningly incompetent. The only subject she loves to talk about and preach on is abortion. Other than that she's like those annoying dolls that giggled and peed themselves we had as kids. There's some opinions for ya.
 

shittim

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Let's not make them take our peace.
They may be maturing to the judgement, the tares growing among the wheat, sort of.
I say that as my usual thought to the post about earholes was, " There will always be more horses behinds than there are horses" . :giggle::giggle::giggle::unsure::):):)
 

posthuman

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Could be. But realize that this horrific Ukraine war would never have happened under Trump.
You mean because he would have armed the Russians, and it would have been over quickly?
 

cv5

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You mean because he would have armed the Russians, and it would have been over quickly?
Couple of things:

1) NATO’s first secretary general, Hastings “Pug” Ismay, famously declared that the organization’s mission was “to keep the Russians out, the Americans in, and the Germans down.”

2) the $$$why$$$ of war

3) the inevitable $$$result$$$ of #2

4) eyewitness testimony of same
Amazon.ca : smedley butler war is a racket

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man by John Perkins | Goodreads
 

cv5

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"For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired to civil life did I fully realize it."

"War is a racket. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."

"War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses."

"War is a racket. It always has been... A few profit - and the many pay. But there is a way to stop it. You can't end it by disarmament conferences. You can't eliminate it by peace parleys at Geneva. Well-meaning but impractical groups can't wipe it out by resolutions. It can be smashed effectively only by taking the profit out of war."

"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in."

"There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights."

"War is just a racket... I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else."

-Smedley Butler
 

HeIsHere

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It's my opinion Mr Trump is the worst candidate for the office, and I'm sickened by the charade of faux-religiosity put on in order to buy the votes of Christians.

He is a very dangerous and deceitful, power-hungry and vain man.
Tell me when he was in office what policy of his did you disagree with?
 

HeIsHere

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You mean because he would have armed the Russians, and it would have been over quickly?
Or perhaps he would have brought them to the table and helped them work out their historic grievances.
 

cv5

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Or perhaps he would have brought them to the table and helped them work out their historic grievances.
Peaceable relations with Russia would eliminate the necessary and immensely profitable scarecrow.

War is a racket.
 

ZNP

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"For a great many years, as a soldier, I had a suspicion that war was a racket; not until I retired to civil life did I fully realize it."

"War is a racket. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."

"War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses."

"War is a racket. It always has been... A few profit - and the many pay. But there is a way to stop it. You can't end it by disarmament conferences. You can't eliminate it by peace parleys at Geneva. Well-meaning but impractical groups can't wipe it out by resolutions. It can be smashed effectively only by taking the profit out of war."

"I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in."

"There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights."

"War is just a racket... I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else."

-Smedley Butler
And that will explain a whole lot. Why have we spent more money on education than all the other countries while at the same time going from #1 to #Last. The only way you can have this continual war is if they don't have a draft and they don't have to declare war and the only people fighting are those who are so poor and poorly educated that they have no choice but to enlist.

Very often they say we are #28 in the world in education. That is very misleading. First, the suburbs have much better schools, maybe even in the top 10, so this #28 is a national average and doesn't simply look at the inner city which is much lower. Then, it is like comparing apples to rotten peaches. Even in the inner city we spend over $10,000 per child whereas the countries we are supposedly on par with for our inner city kids are spending $1,000 or less per child. If you look at our education in the inner city as a return on investment we are without any question, last.

There is no explanation for doing that poorly other than it is intentional.
 

cv5

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Tell me when he was in office what policy of his did you disagree with?
Frankly, Trump was not enough of a wrecking ball. He should have been firing the DS stooges left right and center. Wipe out entire spooky agencies if necessary.
 

HeIsHere

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Frankly, Trump was not enough of a wrecking ball. He should have been firing the DS stooges left right and center. Wipe out entire spooky agencies if necessary.
It is a little fool hardy and naive to think one man can take on the deep state in the first years in office.
Remember when Kennedy stated he was going to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the wind" umm that did not work out too well for him.
 

cv5

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And that will explain a whole lot. Why have we spent more money on education than all the other countries while at the same time going from #1 to #Last. The only way you can have this continual war is if they don't have a draft and they don't have to declare war and the only people fighting are those who are so poor and poorly educated that they have no choice but to enlist.

Very often they say we are #28 in the world in education. That is very misleading. First, the suburbs have much better schools, maybe even in the top 10, so this #28 is a national average and doesn't simply look at the inner city which is much lower. Then, it is like comparing apples to rotten peaches. Even in the inner city we spend over $10,000 per child whereas the countries we are supposedly on par with for our inner city kids are spending $1,000 or less per child. If you look at our education in the inner city as a return on investment we are without any question, last.

There is no explanation for doing that poorly other than it is intentional.
The intention is to demand, grift and then waste as many taxpayer $$$$$ as can be obtained.

The first thing you need to do is get the cash flow (aka "funding") moving (creating an emergency - crisis - emotionally charged situation is always a good modus operandi). The thieves/grifters/carpet baggers in government will take care of the rest. And grab as much power as they can while doing so, in order to keep the grift running as long as possible.
 

HeIsHere

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It's my opinion Mr Trump is the worst candidate for the office, and I'm sickened by the charade of faux-religiosity put on in order to buy the votes of Christians.

He is a very dangerous and deceitful, power-hungry and vain man.
There are many things that Trump did while in office that I shake my head at for sure, one thing that did really annoy me was when he subtlety endorsed QAnon.

I would agree that he did not take his moral duty as a leader seriously in some areas.
He should have denounced that nonsense.
 

cv5

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It is a little fool hardy and naive to think one man can take on the deep state in the first years in office.
Remember when Kennedy stated he was going to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the wind" umm that did not work out too well for him.
Maybe. But recall that Trump actually ran his campaign based upon "lock her/them up". Yet he locked up.....nobody.
It is what Trump DID NOT do that did not sit well with me. And which I found to be extremely suspicious.

Trump is still a wild card IMO. But ultimately you cannot really trust ANY politician.
 

HeIsHere

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Maybe. But recall that Trump actually ran his campaign based upon "lock her/them up". Yet he locked up.....nobody.
It is what Trump DID NOT do that did not sit well with me. And which I found to be extremely suspicious.

Trump is still a wild card IMO. But ultimately you cannot really trust ANY politician.
Yes I see that too.
 

ZNP

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The intention is to demand, grift and then waste as many taxpayer $$$$$ as can be obtained.

The first thing you need to do is get the cash flow (aka "funding") moving (creating an emergency - crisis - emotionally charged situation is always a good modus operandi). The thieves/grifters/carpet baggers in government will take care of the rest. And grab as much power as they can while doing so, in order to keep the grift running as long as possible.
Yes, there is an easy way to take taxpayer money and have it flow into the corrupt pockets using war, as long as you can get soldiers to enlist.

The minute you want to "declare war" you discover the popular revolt to that, the minute you want to have a draft you discover the popular revolt to that.
 

ZNP

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There are many things that Trump did while in office that I shake my head at for sure, one thing that did really annoy me was when he subtlety endorsed QAnon.

I would agree that he did not take his moral duty as a leader seriously in some areas.
He should have denounced that nonsense.
You are confusing Qanon with Q, they are two different things. Q is a psy op from the military, and Qanon is a psy op from the CIA to discredit Q