A question about adultery

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JohnB said:
Paul himself called for those in fornication to get married. You don't see the church pushing this. All they push is, you're going to hell.
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Okay John... so despite our trying to convince you otherwise, if what you say is true, why are you getting married like Scripture tells you too? (According to your own beliefs). Aren't you disobeying what you believe?
 
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JohnB said:
Paul himself called for those in fornication to get married. You don't see the church pushing this. All they push is, you're going to hell.
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yes, He told them to get married because what they were doing would cause them NOT TO INHERIT the Kingdom of God.
Paul, actually wanted single men to be celibate.
but for the ones who can't keep it in their pants, he said, get married, but make sure your marriage is according to God.
don't choose the first woman who winks at you, take the one that God gives to you.
 
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Ted01 said:
Okay John... so despite our trying to convince you otherwise, if what you say is true, why are you getting married like Scripture tells you too? (According to your own beliefs). Aren't you disobeying what you believe?
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I have been trying to for years. But I will not marry someone just for the sake of being married or to anyone with personality and attitude problems. Be careful who you marry. Even Paul warned about the problems of being married. I wish the bible was more clear on marriage.
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
yes, He told them to get married because what they were doing would cause them NOT TO INHERIT the Kingdom of God.
Paul, actually wanted single men to be celibate.
but for the ones who can't keep it in their pants, he said, get married, but make sure your marriage is according to God.
don't choose the first woman who winks at you, take the one that God gives to you.
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I agree with you on that, but GOD does not choose who you marry. That is up to you and there is no real guidance on how to choose.
 
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JohnB said:
I agree with you on that, but GOD does not choose who you marry. That is up to you and there is no real guidance on how to choose.
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He does Choose for You because if You have truly Submitted your will to His, He will direct Your Path according to His Plan for You.

That includes a Wife.

God, CHOSE Adam's Wife.

He will Choose Yours, if You allow Him.
 
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JohnB said:
Paul himself called for those in fornication to get married. You don't see the church pushing this. All they push is, you're going to hell.
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To be clear, Paul tells those who cannot contain their sexual passions to marry. He never advocates for fornication.
 
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JohnB said:
I have been trying to for years. But I will not marry someone just for the sake of being married or to anyone with personality and attitude problems. Be careful who you marry. Even Paul warned about the problems of being married. I wish the bible was more clear on marriage.
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Okay... so you're saying that your opinions/feelings trump (your interpretation of) Scripture?
 
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Ted01 said:
Okay... so you're saying that your opinions/feelings trump (your interpretation of) Scripture?
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I did not say that. When getting married, make a wise choice. Unfortunately when GOD has given me a choice, it was always a bad choice. Would you marry someone you're not attracted to? I'm in a group and I see 10 women I'm really attracted to, 1 i'm not attracted to. The one I'm not attracted to hands me her number and asked me to call her.
 
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I did not say that. When getting married, make a wise choice. Unfortunately when GOD has given me a choice, it was always a bad choice. Would you marry someone you're not attracted to? I'm in a group and I see 10 women I'm really attracted to, 1 i'm not attracted to. The one I'm not attracted to hands me her number and asked me to call her.
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But isn't your idea of attractiveness merely personal opinion, based on feeling?
 
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But isn't your idea of attractiveness merely personal opinion, based on feeling?
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Men are very visual. There are women I have met who were not really attractive, but I like them. Just something about them attracted me. There has to be mutual attraction. Marrying someone you're attracted to makes it much easier to overlook differences.
 
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JohnB said:
Men are very visual. There are women I have met who were not really attractive, but I like them. Just something about them attracted me. There has to be mutual attraction. Marrying someone you're attracted to makes it much easier to overlook differences.
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Okay... still, that based on your opinion/feelings.
And you use that to not do what you believe the Scriptures are telling you to do, right?
 
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JohnB said:
I will not marry someone just for the sake of being married or to anyone with personality and attitude problems.
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Perhaps you remain single due to your own personality and attitude problems, as seen by others.

And besides, who doesn't have them? .:unsure:
 
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JohnB said:
When getting married, make a wise choice. Unfortunately when GOD has given me a choice, it was always a bad choice.
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Oy. So you know better than God? Are you sure you correctly understood what He was asking you to choose?
 
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JohnB said:
As far as fornication, Jesus and Paul were clear the answer was marriage. Why won't the church push this as the answer to fornication?
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huh most churches do advise those living together in a relationship or who have children together to marry. I dont know why what church you belong to but you seem like you dont bother to talk to the ministers about this.

Also, Paul advised for those tempted if they could control themselves to flee fornication
Jesus did not actually advise marriage, you really need to read the Bible again.
 
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OP

what is your problem
is it you cant keep it in your pants or you dont want to marry the woman you are fornicating with??

Come on be honest, stop blaming church for your problems.
 
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Lanolin said:
huh most churches do advise those living together in a relationship or who have children together to marry. I dont know why what church you belong to but you seem like you dont bother to talk to the ministers about this.

Also, Paul advised for those tempted if they could control themselves to flee fornication
Jesus did not actually advise marriage, you really need to read the Bible again.
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By fleeing, Paul meant get married. Jesus was clear few are called to the singles life.
 
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Hey, hot SAM knows all when it comes to sex and the Bible. Just ask him.
 
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JohnB said:
By fleeing, Paul meant get married. Jesus was clear few are called to the singles life.
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By fleeing it is meant that you depart them, them being youthful lusts, which I saw you say somewhere did not include sexual lust, which is a glaring mistake on your part, since sexual passions are very much included in youthful lusts, and spoken against extensively in Scripture. You yourself have commented elsewhere about how these passions dwindle with age. So you contradict yourself, among other things.
 
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