Man killed in Utah FBI raid allegedly posted death threats against Biden

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,860
13,196
113
Not trying to make anyone angry, I am trying to condemn the sinful world with the word of righteousness that they would confess and repent of their hypocrisy.
And you consider a Christian website to be the best place to get the ear of "the sinful world" with your grievances?

or you just hope to "stir up" condemnation in our hearts too?
 

Ted01

Well-known member
May 14, 2022
1,055
447
83
are you conflating this myth

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fairfax-gave-biden-extra-votes/

with this myth

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/10/27/ballots-dumpster-postal-worker/

and this news article

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/fairfax-county-rescanning-20k-ballots-from-early-voting-locations

?

Because I couldn't find anything about what you alleged.

an awful lot of blatant misinformation went around after Trump lost. pretty easy to get bamboozled by the conservative media propaganda in those months.
I don't think that you paid attention to what I actually said... I was talking about the 1996 election.

But since you've found that the same things are still going on in 2020, I'd hope that it would cause you to pause and think about that?
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
32,867
5,761
113
And you consider a Christian website to be the best place to get the ear of "the sinful world" with your grievances?

or you just hope to "stir up" condemnation in our hearts too?
My focus is my blog, it has 239,000 different people who have visited it. So yes, I am quite happy with this forum.

I have discovered on this forum that the term "christian" has a very broad meaning that encompasses a wide range of people.
 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,860
13,196
113
I have discovered on this forum that the term "christian" has a very broad meaning that encompasses a wide range of people.
It certainly has little to nothing to do with Christianity.
 

posthuman

Senior Member
Jul 31, 2013
36,860
13,196
113
I don't think that you paid attention to what I actually said... I was talking about the 1996 election.

But since you've found that the same things are still going on in 2020, I'd hope that it would cause you to pause and think about that?
thanks, no, I do not have time for this.

i still couldn't find anything.
link?

i think you are missing the point that I have yet to see any actual, credible evidence of widespread voter fraud in the US. a lot of people 'say things' but a lot of people flat out lie.
 

Ted01

Well-known member
May 14, 2022
1,055
447
83
thanks, no, I do not have time for this.

i still couldn't find anything.
link?

i think you are missing the point that I have yet to see any actual, credible evidence of widespread voter fraud in the US. a lot of people 'say things' but a lot of people flat out lie.
Link!?!
Heck, I lived through it, lol.

Anyway, never mind, you seem as committed to your opinion as @ZNP is to his.
So, you think that if "actual, credible evidence" isn't shown... the other person is actively lying? They couldn't be correct but not up to going on some fishing excursion for 25 y/o news clips, just to appease you??

Neither seem to be interested in reasoning about differing points of view... IMHO.
Childish... but par for the course, lol.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
32,867
5,761
113
srsly man telling the truth is more effective than hyperbole.


largest viewership in the country.

View attachment 254919
In July it was 1.5 million, meanwhile Tucker Carlson got 90 million views on the video he shared on Twitter. Like I said no one watches Fox News, it is TV for stupid people. It may be playing at airports or sports bars with the sound off, but so what. You may find people with a bank of TVs showing all the MSM but as you have documented, their viewership is down about 30% since getting rid of Tucker.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
32,867
5,761
113
Link!?!
Heck, I lived through it, lol.

Anyway, never mind, you seem as committed to your opinion as @ZNP is to his.
So, you think that if "actual, credible evidence" isn't shown... the other person is actively lying? They couldn't be correct but not up to going on some fishing excursion for 25 y/o news clips, just to appease you??

Neither seem to be interested in reasoning about differing points of view... IMHO.
Childish... but par for the course, lol.
He has already thrown in the towel on trying to convince anyone, his goal now is to throw out red herrings like debating election fraud on this thread, or ad hominem attacks by saying I'm preaching evil or as a Christian should just keep my eyes closed and mouth shut about this. This kind of reaction indicates that we are over the target. Therefore I intend to get every piece of information about the FBI becoming the gestapo that I can. See my next post!
 

Ted01

Well-known member
May 14, 2022
1,055
447
83
He has already thrown in the towel on trying to convince anyone, his goal now is to throw out red herrings like debating election fraud on this thread, or ad hominem attacks by saying I'm preaching evil or as a Christian should just keep my eyes closed and mouth shut about this. This kind of reaction indicates that we are over the target. Therefore I intend to get every piece of information about the FBI becoming the gestapo that I can. See my next post!
Live and let live, they say...
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
32,867
5,761
113

Tucker: The FBI has joined the hunt for Christians

6 months ago

The FBI tried to manufacture crimes against catholics.

"The FBI has decided If you are too sincere about Catholocism you are a criminal"
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
32,867
5,761
113

FBI Used Undercover Agent to Target Leadership of the US Catholic Church | EWTN News Nightly

Jim Jordan subpoena'd the FBI

4 months ago.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
32,867
5,761
113

FBI Richmond Field Office Worked With Other Field Offices to Target Catholics | EWTN News Nightly

2 days ago

Multiple field offices across the country coordinated, and tried to cover this up.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
32,867
5,761
113
FBI Bombshell UNCOVERED Through ACLJ FOIA


3 hours ago.

1200 pages of documents, undercover agents placed in church, Chris Wray said it was only one field office, one product, one mistake.

They coordinated with LA office and Portland office.

"They put an agent in a Catholic church with no evidence of wrong doing"
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
32,867
5,761
113
It certainly has little to nothing to do with Christianity.
Think about this. A mormon is shot and killed in his home, "nothing to do with Christianity", of course not, he's a mormon.

A woman running a newspaper in Kansas is raided and dies. Again, nothing to do with Christians.

A Catholic church is infiltrated by the FBI, there is no allegation of wrongdoing, but they want to contrive a crime to tie them to right wing extremism. Nothing to do with Christianity, these are Catholics.

The ACLJ, a Jewish group, did a FOIA request and discovered that three field offices across the country including some of the biggest were coordinating on this despite Chris Wray lying about this to a senate hearing.

Now we discover there is not one loan memo, like Chris Wray said, but 1,200 pages of documents relevant to framing faith based organizations.

Fortunately, posthuman is not Lord, we don't listen to him, we listen to the Lord Jesus to tell us what is and what is not relevant to us.

I hope those reading this can see why posthuman would freak out about us talking about the 70 year old Mormon shot and killed, it could lead to us realizing the FBI is going after faith based groups.
 

ZNP

Well-known member
Sep 14, 2020
32,867
5,761
113
Think about this. A mormon is shot and killed in his home, "nothing to do with Christianity", of course not, he's a mormon.

A woman running a newspaper in Kansas is raided and dies. Again, nothing to do with Christians.

A Catholic church is infiltrated by the FBI, there is no allegation of wrongdoing, but they want to contrive a crime to tie them to right wing extremism. Nothing to do with Christianity, these are Catholics.

The ACLJ, a Jewish group, did a FOIA request and discovered that three field offices across the country including some of the biggest were coordinating on this despite Chris Wray lying about this to a senate hearing.

Now we discover there is not one loan memo, like Chris Wray said, but 1,200 pages of documents relevant to framing faith based organizations.

Fortunately, posthuman is not Lord, we don't listen to him, we listen to the Lord Jesus to tell us what is and what is not relevant to us.

I hope those reading this can see why posthuman would freak out about us talking about the 70 year old Mormon shot and killed, it could lead to us realizing the FBI is going after faith based groups.
Now consider this in light of this news

Pro-Life Activist ARRESTED After FBI Raids Home, Accused Of ASSAULTING Planned Parenthood Volunteer


They pressured him to plead, he refused, the court found him not guilty.
 

Cameron143

Well-known member
Mar 1, 2022
16,002
5,627
113
62
are you conflating this myth

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fairfax-gave-biden-extra-votes/

with this myth

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/10/27/ballots-dumpster-postal-worker/

and this news article

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/fairfax-county-rescanning-20k-ballots-from-early-voting-locations

?

Because I couldn't find anything about what you alleged.

an awful lot of blatant misinformation went around after Trump lost. pretty easy to get bamboozled by the conservative media propaganda in those months.
It's not misinformation that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court allowed votes to be counted after the date established by the Pennsylvania constitution allowed for.
 

mailmandan

Senior Member
Apr 7, 2014
25,132
13,143
113
58
Newt Gingrich Issues Stark Warning on Trump Georgia Indictment (Video) | The Gateway Pundit | by Kristinn Taylor

Newt Gingrich: “I think what you’re seeing tonight is one tree in a forest, and I think we are drifting towards the greatest Constitutional crisis since the 1850s, uh, and the rise of secession and the Civil War. I don’t mean that as hyperbole. Uh, if you read Andy McCarthy’s remarkable book, Ball of Collusion, which came out in 2019, he makes very clear that it is Barack Obama who corrupts the Justice Department, it is Hillary Clinton who routinely breaks the law and gets away with it. And now we have Joe Biden who’s learned, he’s learned from Obama that is doesn’t matter what you do, if you’re a liberal Democrat, you will not be prosecuted. He learned from Hillary that a person in high public office can get millions and millions of dollars. And they learned from watching Donald Trump that a true outsider, willing to take on the entire system, could destroy their entire machine. So what you’re seeing across the country, is a desperate, last-ditch effort by a corrupt machine to destroy their most dangerous opponent in a way which not only breaks the Constitution, destroys the rule of law, and establishes a moment of bitterness, uh, which I think will last for a generation or more. I think this is gonna be a horrendous period and we just need to understand: The people who want to control America and dictate to the rest of us will break any law, lie about any topic, and manipulate the system any way they can, and that includes a lot of the elite news media.”