NEW CC Perspectives on Levels of Conspiracy & Corruption in 2020 Election, CV19 & DS Existence

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Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?


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That's surprising, as many blue Biden counties are along the Mexican border, I'd have thought they'd have all been for Trump and his Wall to stop illegals coming in and pumping their kids full of drugs, sounds like very bad parenting to me.
PS- I see Alaska and Oklahoma are all red, God bless 'em for doing America proud..:)

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That's surprising, as many blue Biden counties are along the Mexican border, I'd have thought they'd have all been for Trump and his Wall to stop illegals coming in and pumping their kids full of drugs, sounds like very bad parenting to me.
PS- I see Alaska and Oklahoma are all red, God bless 'em for doing America proud..:)

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Ya, keep in mind, these precinct, and count maps still show the Fraudulent votes, of dead and fake and quadruple voters in those areas…
I couldn’t find the corrected map yet, that only shows the valid votes, but I’ll keep digging
 
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Ya, keep in mind, these precinct, and count maps still show the Fraudulent votes, of dead and fake and quadruple voters in those areas…
I couldn’t find the corrected map yet, that only shows the valid votes, but I’ll keep digging
Trust nothing this guy says on these matters. He has been proven to post massive disinformation in the name of telling truth, repeatedly.

Below are examples of his repeated lack of telling things that are true. You can’t trust what he’s telling you.

  1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
  2. A bogus story about the 2020 election being decertified, along with a bogus story about a soon to come black swan event in China. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136317
  3. False story about POTUS SOD SOS being arrested after the Durham Report and Arizona Audit. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136328
  4. Another false claim the 2020 election would be decertified. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136345
  5. A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136362
  6. A false claim of a coming storm of the century. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136378
  7. False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136418
  8. False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021 https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136440
 
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Trust nothing this guy says on these matters. He has been proven to post massive disinformation in the name of telling truth, repeatedly.

Below are examples of his repeated lack of telling things that are true. You can’t trust what he’s telling you.

  1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
  2. A bogus story about the 2020 election being decertified, along with a bogus story about a soon to come black swan event in China. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136317
  3. False story about POTUS SOD SOS being arrested after the Durham Report and Arizona Audit. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136328
  4. Another false claim the 2020 election would be decertified. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136345
  5. A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136362
  6. A false claim of a coming storm of the century. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136378
  7. False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136418
  8. False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021 https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136440
Best case scenario, this guy is delusional, and has no clue that he’s posting lie after lie.

A bad case scenario, he knows he’s posting lies and doesn’t care.

A worst case scenario, he is part of a foreign disinformation campaign to cause disruption in American elections. (This seems far fetched to me. Would be a waste of time and resources to do it on this site. But who knows.)

Please don’t simply view the above as another instance of crackpot fact checking we see from the MSM. My examples pan out as actual examples of posting of real lies.

Regardless of his motive, it stands he can not be trusted to give reliable information on these matters.
 
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Best case scenario, this guy is delusional, and has no clue that he’s posting lie after lie.

A bad case scenario, he knows he’s posting lies and doesn’t care.

A worst case scenario, he is part of a foreign disinformation campaign to cause disruption in American elections. (This seems far fetched to me. Would be a waste of time and resources to do it on this site. But who knows.)

Please don’t simply view the above as another instance of crackpot fact checking we see from the MSM. My examples pan out as actual examples of posting of real lies.

Regardless of his motive, it stands he can not be trusted to give reliable information on these matters.
Many are going to continue guzzling down what he is saying, even though it has been conclusively proven he can not be trusted on these matters. Some people just want to hear what verifies what they want to hear. Their god isn’t truth, but is rather ear tickling lies that helps uphold their confirmation bias.
 
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Trust nothing this guy [SolemateLeft] says on these matters. He has been proven to post massive disinformation in the name of telling truth, repeatedly...
I like this saying of Buddha's- "Trust nothing anyone says, - even if I have said it- unless it agrees with your own reason and your own commonsense."
And my own reason and commonsense tells me that the 2020 election was very probably rigged like SolemateLeft says.
I mean, I cannot freaking believe that over half of Americans went insane and put sleepy Joe in the White House..:)
How about it Don?

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I like this saying of Buddha's- "Trust nothing anyone says, - even if I have said it- unless it agrees with your own reason and your own commonsense."
And my own reason and commonsense tells me that the 2020 election was very probably rigged like SolemateLeft says.
I mean, I cannot freaking believe that over half of Americans went insane and put that senile doddering old bloke in the White House..:)
Just because you don’t believe it’s true, doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

Trump lost. Embrace truth and quit listening to people who are simply telling you what you want to hear. It’s been proven that this guy, can’t be trusted. Going to embrace truth, as a Christian should, or keep on bear hugging the lies of this guy and people like him?
 

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The one lesson I think we should all have learned by now is to not judge before the time.

When the vaccine was mandated there was no publicly available proof that the vaccine was dangerous. What you did know for certain is they were telling you something quite different from what we had always learned about a virus. Previously we had been taught that the best vaccine is to actually recover from the disease. In this case they completely ignored all those who had previously had the disease, everyone needed the vaccine. What we did know for certain was that the mandate violated international law. They were mandating an experimental vaccine without providing you with the full transparency required by law. What you did know for certain was that Fauci was lying. He said to question him was to question science. That is so obviously absurd how could anyone have swallowed that? What we did know for certain was they were desperate to shut down any questions, dissent, or concerns about the vaccine. If this was a life saving cure why the total censorship? People who were obviously not "anti-vaxx" were ridiculed, insulted and slandered. Careers were ruined. Why the tyranny? So what we knew for sure was that something was not right. Therefore it was wise to say let me wait a few years and see what happens. Sure enough we now have sufficient data released to make an informed decision. Based on this data I am very happy I did not take the vaccine.

Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia reminds me of that period in time. Desperate to judge someone before the time. Do we have all the facts in yet? No. But do we have enough facts to know that something is not right? Yes, definitely. So why is this person who just joined the forum in August so desperate to shut down and attack this thread? I count 61 posts by this person in just over a week! That speaks to me of desperation.

He is desperate to say that Trump lost in 2020.

He is desperate to slander anyone who questions election integrity.

Something else reminds me of Fauci with his posts. I was listening intently to Fauci to learn why this virus was different from all others and yet I never learned anything from Dr. Fauci. The people who really did edify me and teach me about mRNA vaccines, or this virus or Ivermectin, or HCQ or the masks or social distancing filled me with links to scientific peer reviewed studies all of which debunked Fauci. I feel it is the same with this guy, his posts are full of slander and insults but no content, no edification, only telling people what they should believe.
 
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I like this saying of Buddha's- "Trust nothing anyone says, - even if I have said it- unless it agrees with your own reason and your own commonsense."
And my own reason and commonsense tells me that the 2020 election was very probably rigged like SolemateLeft says.
I mean, I cannot freaking believe that over half of Americans went insane and put sleepy Joe in the White House..:)
And scripture says our heart is deceitful.

Align with what is true, not what your heart is telling you.

It reflects badly on Christianity, and gives many that part of being a Christian is embracing conspiracy theories that are based on lies.
 
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The one lesson I think we should all have learned by now is to not judge before the time.

When the vaccine was mandated there was no publicly available proof that the vaccine was dangerous. What you did know for certain is they were telling you something quite different from what we had always learned about a virus. Previously we had been taught that the best vaccine is to actually recover from the disease. In this case they completely ignored all those who had previously had the disease, everyone needed the vaccine. What we did know for certain was that the mandate violated international law. They were mandating an experimental vaccine without providing you with the full transparency required by law. What you did know for certain was that Fauci was lying. He said to question him was to question science. That is so obviously absurd how could anyone have swallowed that? What we did know for certain was they were desperate to shut down any questions, dissent, or concerns about the vaccine. If this was a life saving cure why the total censorship? People who were obviously not "anti-vaxx" were ridiculed, insulted and slandered. Careers were ruined. Why the tyranny? So what we knew for sure was that something was not right. Therefore it was wise to say let me wait a few years and see what happens. Sure enough we now have sufficient data released to make an informed decision. Based on this data I am very happy I did not take the vaccine.

Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia reminds me of that period in time. Desperate to judge someone before the time. Do we have all the facts in yet? No. But do we have enough facts to know that something is not right? Yes, definitely. So why is this person who just joined the forum in August so desperate to shut down and attack this thread? I count 61 posts by this person in just over a week! That speaks to me of desperation.

He is desperate to say that Trump lost in 2020.

He is desperate to slander anyone who questions election integrity.
Lol sorry but as I’ve proven time and time again in this post, people are desperate say to Trump won, and they’ll post and believe lie after lie to prove it. I’ve provided numerous examples of actual lies told, to uphold lies.

Not given enough time to prove he won? There have been numerous audits, investigations, recounts, and proven lies like below. People keep saying the truth is just around the corner, the storm is just about to come. Yet time and time again it never comes. More time isn’t needed, because everything has been done to prove it was a valid election.

Below are examples of his repeated lack of telling things that are true. You can’t trust what he’s telling you.

  1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
  2. A bogus story about the 2020 election being decertified, along with a bogus story about a soon to come black swan event in China. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136317
  3. False story about POTUS SOD SOS being arrested after the Durham Report and Arizona Audit. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136328
  4. Another false claim the 2020 election would be decertified. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136345
  5. A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136362
  6. A false claim of a coming storm of the century. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136378
  7. False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136418
  8. False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021 https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136440
 
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I like this saying of Buddha's- "Trust nothing anyone says, - even if I have said it- unless it agrees with your own reason and your own commonsense."
And my own reason and commonsense tells me that the 2020 election was very probably rigged like SolemateLeft says.
I mean, I cannot freaking believe that over half of Americans went insane and put sleepy Joe in the White House..:)
How about it Don?

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I mean for crying out loud, you’ve resorted to quoting the false teacher known as buddha!
 
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As regards the Covid vax, it was probably a con by corrupt Big Pharma and our governments to line their pockets , so they rushed it into production before it was properly tested-

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Something else reminds me of Fauci with his posts. I was listening intently to Fauci to learn why this virus was different from all others and yet I never learned anything from Dr. Fauci. The people who really did edify me and teach me about mRNA vaccines, or this virus or Ivermectin, or HCQ or the masks or social distancing filled me with links to scientific peer reviewed studies all of which debunked Fauci. I feel it is the same with this guy, his posts are full of slander and insults but no content, no edification, only telling people what they should believe.
Now that’s really interesting. I document proven repeated lies, and your first reaction isn’t to see those lies, and find a comparison between the liar and the father of lies, but rather to find a comparison between the guy showing documented facts and Fauci who is has shaky credibility.

I guess scripture was right about people giving into strong delusions in the end times.

Below are examples of his repeated lack of telling things that are true. You can’t trust what he’s telling you.

  1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
  2. A bogus story about the 2020 election being decertified, along with a bogus story about a soon to come black swan event in China. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136317
  3. False story about POTUS SOD SOS being arrested after the Durham Report and Arizona Audit. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136328
  4. Another false claim the 2020 election would be decertified. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136345
  5. A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136362
  6. A false claim of a coming storm of the century. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136378
  7. False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136418
  8. False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021 https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136440
 

ZNP

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Lol sorry but as I’ve proven time and time again in this post, people are desperate say to Trump won, and they’ll post and believe lie after lie to prove it. I’ve provided numerous examples of actual lies told, to uphold lies.

Not given enough time to prove he won? There have been numerous audits, investigations, recounts, and proven lies like below. People keep proving the truth is just around the corner, the storm is just about to come. Yet time and time again it never comes. More time isn’t needed, because everything has been done to prove it was a valid election.

Below are examples of his repeated lack of telling things that are true. You can’t trust what he’s telling you.

  1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
  2. A bogus story about the 2020 election being decertified, along with a bogus story about a soon to come black swan event in China. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136317
  3. False story about POTUS SOD SOS being arrested after the Durham Report and Arizona Audit. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136328
  4. Another false claim the 2020 election would be decertified. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136345
  5. A false claim that information would be released to remove Biden from office. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136362
  6. A false claim of a coming storm of the century. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136378
  7. False claim of market collapse in a red October of 2021. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136418
  8. False claim of an imminent storm coming October 2021 https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-468#post-5136440
at the moment you have 0 credibility with me.

I don't need you to tell me that the election had not been decertified, or that Biden has not been impeached. You come across as an arrogant a** thinking I or anyone else needs someone to say that.

What I am also aware of is the crimes that have been revealed on Biden that should be a basis for impeachment. I am aware of calls being made from senators and congressmen to begin that inquiry.

I am also aware of all the evidence concerning the election, not simply the fact that judges have refused to hear the evidence. I am aware that over 50% of the American people do not trust our election integrity and that should under any reasonable situation be considered an absolute crisis in our democracy which must be addressed with a full and complete audit of each state's election process along with a canvass and an effort to clean up the voter registration. I consider people like yourself telling those with questions to shut up, that you are the problem, not the solution. It doesn't matter which 50% are right, those who are not worried about our elections or those that are, in a democracy we care about both groups and we must act so that the vast majority of the people can trust the process.
 
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As regards the Covid vax, it was probably a con by corrupt Big Pharma and our governments to line their pockets , so they rushed it into production before it was properly tested-

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Intresting. the vaccine was this huge attempt at something evil.
Yet Trump bragged about the speed of getting the vaccine out in operation warp speed.
Doesn’t that make him part of the problem too?
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at the moment you have 0 credibility with me.

I don't need you to tell me that the election had not been decertified, or that Biden has not been impeached. You come across as an arrogant a** thinking I or anyone else needs someone to say that.

What I am also aware of is the crimes that have been revealed on Biden that should be a basis for impeachment. I am aware of calls being made from senators and congressmen to begin that inquiry.

I am also aware of all the evidence concerning the election, not simply the fact that judges have refused to hear the evidence. I am aware that over 50% of the American people do not trust our election integrity and that should under any reasonable situation be considered an absolute crisis in our democracy which must be addressed with a full and complete audit of each state's election process along with a canvass and an effort to clean up the voter registration. I consider people like yourself telling those with questions to shut up, that you are the problem, not the solution. It doesn't matter which 50% are right, those who are not worried about our elections or those that are, in a democracy we care about both groups and we must act so that the vast majority of the people can trust the process.
Ahh the old he’s arrogant card. That gets played right along with the he’s just seeking attention card, when you can’t prove someone factually wrong.

It’s a nice diversion, but it’s as weak as the left playing the race card to shut the right up.
 
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I mean for crying out loud, you’ve resorted to quoting the false teacher known as buddha!
I know Buddha talked sh*t sometimes, but his "commonsense" quote was spot on..:)

Incidentally I walked out of the 'Defence Talk' forum last week because they couldn't handle the truth, I said Ukraine can't possibly win the war, and nearly the whole bloody forum turned on me, calling me a troll and stuff.
I guess they just can't handle the truth like we Christians can..:)

Jesus said- "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free...Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.” ("John 8:32,John 18:37)
"..no lie comes from the truth"- 1 John 2:21
"The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it"- (Ayn Rand 1905-1982)