NEW CC Perspectives on Levels of Conspiracy & Corruption in 2020 Election, CV19 & DS Existence

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Was 2020 US Election Fraudulent AND was CV19 a Deep State Plandemic?


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Alright hotshots, is this pic of a poor woman getting hit by a wheel that flew off a racing car true or fake?
Tell us how you arrive at your answer..:)

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Well I never claimed to be an expert on such matters, so I don’t know. Others have claimed to be well credentialed experts of this type of information and have posted doctored “evidence” knowingly or unknowingly.
 
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The bottom line is, some of you all can’t handle the truth and have no desire to handle it.

Someone comes in showing documented lies, not just from some Joe off the street, but from someone claiming to be a credentialed, well informed expert on these matters, so credentialed he’ll ask you for your credentialing!

They’re contorting themselves in shapes more complex than the earbud wires that form when in your pocket for a day, in order to dismiss, ignore, or affirm lies right in front of their face.

  1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
 

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ah, so now we have it

" russian disimfo..."

when all else fails, blame russia....
If someone says water isn’t wet, and I say that’s Russian disinfo, but it isn’t Russian disinfo, the claim that water isn’t wet isn’t all of the sudden true.

It could be Russian disinfo, or it might not be.

Either way, it’s a posted untruth, from someone claiming to be a well informed credentialed expert in these matters, so credentialed he feels confident enough to question your credentials.

  1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
 

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If someone says water isn’t wet, and I say that’s Russian disinfo, but it isn’t Russian disinfo, the claim that water isn’t wet isn’t all of the sudden true.

It could be Russian disinfo, or it might not be.

Either way, it’s a posted untruth, from someone claiming to be a well informed credentialed expert in these matters, so credentialed he feels confident enough to question your credentials.

  1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
if you scan back through this thread, you will see i have strongly disagreed with the poster of whom you speak.

but what i am not is rude and disrespectful about it.
 
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Incidentally a couple of people in this thread have either falsely claimed that I said something which I never said, or they've quoted me out of context, which shows how easy it is for people like them to put spin on words..:)
As Hamlet said "It is as easy as lying".
 

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The basic premise of this "psy op" is that you have to have the American people on board first. If Biden had been removed in 2021 it would have been seen as a coup and 60% of America would have revolted and you would have torn the country in half.

Since that time we have close to 70% of the country that has issues with Joe Biden, there is a very great awareness of the issues with our election, and at this point there are probably only 10-20% of the people who really would defend Biden if it came down to that. So we have crossed the 70/30 threshold which you have to in order to avoid civil war.

I am reminded of when Absalom took the kingdom from David. The situation was very similar, David was a sinner and God told him this would happen as punishment for his sin. David fled Jerusalem because he wanted to avoid a war that would hurt the people of Israel. The people who followed David were men of war whereas those who stood with Absalom were long haired boot lickers. However, Absalom had Ahithophel as a key advisor and had they followed his advice David would have been strung up for treason within days of leaving Jerusalem. No doubt a discussion in the Biden administration which also got delayed by confederates still within the Biden administration standing for the country (the white hats). When the battle finally did go kinetic it was over almost immediately, overhyped, arrogant jerks defeated in a day.

But what really gets me and is not clear in the story of David but really brought home in the story of Trump is this matter of the hypocrisy of sin. Why has the US fallen this far, is it because of Trump's sins or because of America's sins? Isn't Trump simply a reflection of our own horrible culture? We put him on the front cover of magazines talking about how he was a playboy. Then it was idolized, now it is "sinful". He was a TV star with his reality TV shows, then it was idolized, now it is mocked. There are two responses to Trump, either you can feel ashamed for the sins of America, confess, and repent. Or you can be holier than thou with amnesia, point the finger and talk about how sinful he is.
 

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if you scan back through this thread, you will see i have strongly disagreed with the poster of whom you speak.

but what i am not is rude and disrespectful about it.
In my own case I have taken the attitude of "Noted, I am paying careful attention, and we'll see if this pans out".

But I have much greater respect for someone who has stuck to their guns for several years, posting all this information so that we have it journaled, than some guy who shows up in August as the campaign for President begins and is on some kind of "mission" to not just present an opposing viewpoint but to insult everyone and virtually demand censorship. The arrogance of such a person is repulsive.
 
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In my own case I have taken the attitude of "Noted, I am paying careful attention, and we'll see if this pans out".

But I have much greater respect for someone who has stuck to their guns for several years, posting all this information so that we have it journaled, than some guy who shows up in August as the campaign for President begins and is on some kind of "mission" to not just present an opposing viewpoint but to insult everyone and virtually demand censorship. The arrogance of such a person is repulsive.
You’re contorting yourself to such an extent to lend him credibility, you make a bag of pretzels look like it has perfect posture.
Sticking to his guns?

  1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273

Posting that and much more, and sticking to guns is an admirable quality? But someone coming in and trying to bring light on the repeated disinformation from someone claiming to be a credentialed expert on these matters is not to be trusted?
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That bag of pretzels looks to have perfect posture compared to the stuff you’re peddling.

And someone claiming the below, after posting what they’ve repeatedly posted, makes their claim to educated credentialed credibility about as legit as Dr. Fauci’s. In fact i’d say he’s the Dr. Fauci of this topic in this thread.

”I just checked and confirmed that you are actually very NEW HERE... So shame on me for not being more welcoming...


I'm what we refer to as a self proclaimed 'Christian Patriot Truther'


I'm a Christian First, Patriot 2nd and Conservative 3rd...


I come from a military family... I am a retired Marine Infantry Officer with a Master's Degree in Operations Research (Statistical Analysis) with a specialty in Human Behavior and Irregular Warfare and Whole of Government Warfare...


I have been exposed to the Obama/HR corruption first hand, but I never understood what the Deep State was until I saw the DS CV19 Plan come together to help them to steal the election...


I have seen, touched, analyzed and helped expose the volumes of election fraud data, as well as the corrupt CV19 and Vaccine data...


The Facts speak for themselves ... Being an expert in this type of Information and Irregular Warfare just happens to be my area of expertise...


So what are your credentials for backing your strongly held opinions?”

 
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But I have much greater respect for someone who has stuck to their guns for several years, posting all this information so that we have it journaled, than some guy who shows up in August as the campaign for President begins and is on some kind of "mission" to not just present an opposing viewpoint but to insult everyone and virtually demand censorship. The arrogance of such a person is repulsive.
The absurdity of this is absurdy.

PICTURE IT!

It’s 2021 sometime on this website. A guy named Bob123123 posts that water isn’t wet, and claims to be a credentialed expert on this topic. They post about this for years.

Then someone comes in, years later, we’ll call him Kanny8999. He points out that this credentialed expert repeatedly posts misinformation, and should not be trusted.

Then a guy named Pete55 says, hey wait, I respect the guy who is sticking to their guns, more than that guy who is proving his case.

Seriously?????
 

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The one lesson I think we should all have learned by now is to not judge before the time.

When the vaccine was mandated there was no publicly available proof that the vaccine was dangerous. What you did know for certain is they were telling you something quite different from what we had always learned about a virus. Previously we had been taught that the best vaccine is to actually recover from the disease. In this case they completely ignored all those who had previously had the disease, everyone needed the vaccine. What we did know for certain was that the mandate violated international law. They were mandating an experimental vaccine without providing you with the full transparency required by law. What you did know for certain was that Fauci was lying. He said to question him was to question science. That is so obviously absurd how could anyone have swallowed that? What we did know for certain was they were desperate to shut down any questions, dissent, or concerns about the vaccine. If this was a life saving cure why the total censorship? People who were obviously not "anti-vaxx" were ridiculed, insulted and slandered. Careers were ruined. Why the tyranny? So what we knew for sure was that something was not right. Therefore it was wise to say let me wait a few years and see what happens. Sure enough we now have sufficient data released to make an informed decision. Based on this data I am very happy I did not take the vaccine.

Kaniel_Outis_Ogygia reminds me of that period in time. Desperate to judge someone before the time. Do we have all the facts in yet? No. But do we have enough facts to know that something is not right? Yes, definitely. So why is this person who just joined the forum in August so desperate to shut down and attack this thread? I count 61 posts by this person in just over a week! That speaks to me of desperation.

He is desperate to say that Trump lost in 2020.

He is desperate to slander anyone who questions election integrity.

Something else reminds me of Fauci with his posts. I was listening intently to Fauci to learn why this virus was different from all others and yet I never learned anything from Dr. Fauci. The people who really did edify me and teach me about mRNA vaccines, or this virus or Ivermectin, or HCQ or the masks or social distancing filled me with links to scientific peer reviewed studies all of which debunked Fauci. I feel it is the same with this guy, his posts are full of slander and insults but no content, no edification, only telling people what they should believe.
The Newbie that you speak of is very consistent with the DS corrupt Left and MSM Playbook for the Information War that they are so DESPERATELY Losing!
Their playbook calls for them to very fundamentally:
They Will
- Project the very Accusations that they are Guilty of Doing…
- Deny
- Deflect
- Dis-Inform
- Deceive
- Deter
- Dissuade
- and Destroy any one who stands in their way or attempts to counter or expose their Diabolical Agena and very real Conspiracies to do what ever it takes to maintain CONTROL…

At this point, anyone who remains so stubbornly arrogant to Deny all the Facts and Truths that have been EXPoSED to the public - who simply remains beyond engaging in an adult discussion -, is simply here to do the bidding as a DS Operative… as we Christians collectively are the Enemy of the very EVIL that is the DS Complex…

we are in the midsts of an Epic Biblical Spiritual War with Evil ….
Bottom line: Anyone who is closed minded to learning HIS Truths during this Time of Spiritual Awakening and Warfare, if they are Not with us as Christians, than they must be Against US as the Soldiers of God on the side of Forces for Good against the Exposed Evil that lives amongst us…
 

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The Newbie that you speak of is very consistent with the DS corrupt Left and MSM Playbook for the Information War that they are so DESPERATELY Losing!
Their playbook calls for them to very fundamentally:
They Will
- Project the very Accusations that they are Guilty of Doing…
- Deny
- Deflect
- Dis-Inform
- Deceive
- Deter
- Dissuade
- and Destroy any one who stands in their way or attempts to counter or expose their Diabolical Agena and very real Conspiracies to do what ever it takes to maintain CONTROL…

At this point, anyone who remains so stubbornly arrogant to Deny all the Facts and Truths that have been EXPoSED to the public - who simply remains beyond engaging in an adult discussion -, is simply here to do the bidding as a DS Operative… as we Christians collectively are the Enemy of the very EVIL that is the DS Complex…

we are in the midsts of an Epic Biblical Spiritual War with Evil ….
Bottom line: Anyone who is closed minded to learning HIS Truths during this Time of Spiritual Awakening and Warfare, if they are Not with us as Christians, than they must be Against US as the Soldiers of God on the side of Forces for Good against the Exposed Evil that lives amongst us…
I used to be a stock broker and the best thing about being a stock broker is eventually everyone has to put up or shut up. I have seen people make a strong case for buying a stock, others make a strong case for selling the same stock. But when all the debate is over, place your bets, and we'll see in 6 months, or 12 months or 18 months who was right.

The newbie has placed his bet, we'll see. Till then he is just a clanging cymbal, very annoying, but easy to ignore.
 

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ah, so now we have it
" russian disimfo..."
when all else fails, blame russia....
Channeling my favorite Brady Bunch brother it's always about "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!!!"
Classic DS Left Tactic - Project Conspiracies - that we now have evidence that they were Conspiring with China and the DS Owned and Operated Ukraine...
Of course the DS Despise & Fear Russia and Putin almost as much as they Despise a FREE America and Trump...
oh but...
"Russia, Russia, Russia"
 

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I used to be a stock broker and the best thing about being a stock broker is eventually everyone has to put up or shut up. I have seen people make a strong case for buying a stock, others make a strong case for selling the same stock. But when all the debate is over, place your bets, and we'll see in 6 months, or 12 months or 18 months who was right.
The newbie has placed his bet, we'll see. Till then he is just a clanging cymbal, very annoying, but easy to ignore.
In the context of the Stocks Analogy to buy or sell at this juncture...
as it pertains to being weary of clever salesman who could & would sell SWAMP-LAND to the unknowingly innocent ...

Given that the MAJORITY of us are AWAKENED or very quickly more and more are steadily AWAKENING every day...
I would suggest that NOBODY BUY anything that the DS SWAMP Left or MSM are Peddling, has Built, or Owns...

You know more about this stuff than I do...
But I have it on good authority to recommend folks protect their investments with Gold, or Silver backing...
Having Cash for emergency is always safe...
Some are speculating that the Dollar is vulnerable... Consider 'Dinar' as alternative...
Also get out of Cryptocurrency (if you have not already)... Albeit - some see BitCoin as a safe future alternative... ?
But what do I know... I R a grunt...
 

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And We Know - Dr. Kirk Elliott: M2 Money Supply Woes! BRICS Ramping Up! Pray! - Must Video
Sunday, August 20, 2023 14:31

By John Rolls (Reporter): They will turn it all off suddenly to impose maximum suffering. Satan’s world is wonderful, isn’t it?

All this weather warfare is being controlled by the 4th branch of government. It’s not just banking its many agencies controlled under Executive orders. EO who appoint these agencies and they don’t have any alliance to us. I have articles that explains who they are and I’m trying to get the information out to others. The only way to stop them is through the presidency. That’s why, they want President Trump out so bad.
 

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As I like to remind my boys that Our Lord is our Father...
with our favorite quote from the Lion King: "Remember who you are. You are my son,..."
BELIEVE them when they TELL You who THEY (DS ELITISTS) ARE....
They are the ENEMY of the Children of God!!!
Are we ready to put on our Armor of God and serve as HIS SPIRITUAL WARRIORS?

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ah, so now we have it

" russian disimfo..."

when all else fails, blame russia....
Channeling my favorite Brady Bunch brother it's always about "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!!!"
Classic DS Left Tactic - Project Conspiracies - that we now have evidence that they were Conspiring with China and the DS Owned and Operated Ukraine...
Of course the DS Despise & Fear Russia and Putin almost as much as they Despise a FREE America and Trump...
oh but...
"Russia, Russia, Russia"
The Newbie that you speak of is very consistent with the DS corrupt Left and MSM Playbook for the Information War that they are so DESPERATELY Losing!
Their playbook calls for them to very fundamentally:
They Will
- Project the very Accusations that they are Guilty of Doing…
- Deny
- Deflect
- Dis-Inform
- Deceive
- Deter
- Dissuade
- and Destroy any one who stands in their way or attempts to counter or expose their Diabolical Agena and very real Conspiracies to do what ever it takes to maintain CONTROL…

At this point, anyone who remains so stubbornly arrogant to Deny all the Facts and Truths that have been EXPoSED to the public - who simply remains beyond engaging in an adult discussion -, is simply here to do the bidding as a DS Operative… as we Christians collectively are the Enemy of the very EVIL that is the DS Complex…

we are in the midsts of an Epic Biblical Spiritual War with Evil ….
Bottom line: Anyone who is closed minded to learning HIS Truths during this Time of Spiritual Awakening and Warfare, if they are Not with us as Christians, than they must be Against US as the Soldiers of God on the side of Forces for Good against the Exposed Evil that lives amongst us…
You’ve all heard of dark ops, well welcome to dark obs. Dark obfuscation.

They stand behind the repeated lies like this they have told…

  1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
Then claim to uphold truth, and assert all of this stuff against them is just bluster from deep state types. Despite having their proven lies thrust in their face, they just say stating such is an attempt to attack “the truth”. Even though the truth proves them as propagators of lies.

Yeah shouting Russian disinfo at this stuff, as a possible consideration, or as an absolute fact isn’t artful on my part.

But again, picture it.

Man who claims to have major credentials on water and is super educated on it, posts for years that water is dry..

Another guy jumps in and says and proves water isn’t dry, and saying such might be or is Russian disinfo.

The water “expert” then jumps in, and says…..HE SAID RUSSIAN DISINFO!!!!!

That doesn’t make the “expert” right about water being dry.

This is dark obs, my friends.

Obfuscating your direction away from the truth, that they’re propagating lie after like that.
  1. Your bogus photo of Ghislaine Maxwell and a judge. https://christianchat.com/conspirac...v19-ds-existence.200675/page-467#post-5136273
Shouting deep state at these doesn’t make the truth go away. All it does is obfuscate and distract.

DARK OBS.
 

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I've spent some time trying to explain the difference between Conventional Wisdom as it pertains to the differences during the times of an Information Warfare.... I tend to describe the differences between Conventional Warfare strategic objectives vs those relevant to Irregular Warfare...

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Here's a few NEWS HEADLINES and ARTICLES that you WILL NOT SEE on the DS MSM FAKE NEWS!!!
Which begs the Question in a FREEDOM LOVING COUNTRY - WHY do they want to HIDE these Opposing Perspectives from the PEOPLE?
If even the Naive are Waking Up and able to DISCERN the Answer to this Rhetorical Question - than so can the Arrogant... But maybe they are either too Stubborn to acknowledge the Truth, they are in Denial or they are still suffering from the DS PsyOp that causes TDS...
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I stopped donating to the RNC (years ago) when I realized that they were rotten with with ties to RINO's who are also owned by the DS SWAMP...
These PATRIOTS expose how Trump and HIS MAGA Movement are NOT going to let the RNC lead them by the nose, while taking their Donations...
THE RNC is BUNK!!! Trump and the MAGA Movement are taking on the DS and taking the Bull by the Horns...
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