Read my post #1049. I find your attempt to condemn Christians for exercising their constitutional rights as American citizens to be reprehensible and damnable. I don't care if you vote or don't vote, but when you try to link voting rights with the pit of hell you have crossed a line with me. You don't get to tell servants of the Lord how to serve the Lord, that is up to Him.
Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?
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I've said it a hundred times here already. Will 101 times make a difference?
Mammon worship, cheating workers, abandoning the sick poor and foreign, self-idolatry, and embracing lies and hypocrisies are not Christian values, yet they are values trump who claims to be Christian is promoting.
The fruit of the Holy Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, and self control. trump who claims to be Christian embodies none of these qualities.
Jesus tells us to love our enemies and do good to those who oppose us. I don't see that going on in maga circles either.
Mammon worship, cheating workers, abandoning the sick poor and foreign, self-idolatry, and embracing lies and hypocrisies are not Christian values, yet they are values trump who claims to be Christian is promoting.
The fruit of the Holy Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, and self control. trump who claims to be Christian embodies none of these qualities.
Jesus tells us to love our enemies and do good to those who oppose us. I don't see that going on in maga circles either.
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Two demons stand on a corner. A Christian walks up and demands, "in Jesus' Name, tell me your names and authority"
The first demon says "my name is Abortion. I kill babies"
The second demon says "we have many names. Mammon, Idolatry, Abandonment, cheating, lies and hypocrisy. Our authority is to oppose the gifts of the Holy Spirit".
The Christian says to the second demon, "well at least you don't kill babies, so I'm siding with you".
Jesus weeps.
The first demon says "my name is Abortion. I kill babies"
The second demon says "we have many names. Mammon, Idolatry, Abandonment, cheating, lies and hypocrisy. Our authority is to oppose the gifts of the Holy Spirit".
The Christian says to the second demon, "well at least you don't kill babies, so I'm siding with you".
Jesus weeps.
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What I personally object to is the characterization of those who vote for Trump as people who worship mammon, cheat workers or abandon the poor, sick, or immigrants. Neither do they make of themselves idols or embrace lies. You have judged millions of people, many devout Christians, and you have judged them poorly. And this is why many here have pushed back. While all those things might be true of you if you were to vote for Trump, that doesn't make it true for everyone.
Personally I also know your judgment is suspect. You claimed that I said you didn't care. My post before your response made much of your sincerity. I do think you care. I don't think your understanding is correct. You are literally characterizing half the voting public as duped or callous and worse.
Personally I also know your judgment is suspect. You claimed that I said you didn't care. My post before your response made much of your sincerity. I do think you care. I don't think your understanding is correct. You are literally characterizing half the voting public as duped or callous and worse.
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1- Sure, Trump's made a few bucks but that doesn't mean he worships money..
He's a University Economics graduate and if Americans had voted him in for a second term they'd all be as rich as him by now..
2- What workers has he "cheated"?
3- He trashed the useless Obamacare, sounds ok to me..
4- As for "abandoning the poor and foreign", most of them are just ungrateful scroungers, so full marks to him for channeling welfare to the American people instead, like Jesus advised-
Jesus said- "It is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs....do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces" (Matt 15:26,Matt 7:6)
5- I don't see Trump as "idolising" himself, he only idolises America..
Now tell us what's so good about Biden..
He's a University Economics graduate and if Americans had voted him in for a second term they'd all be as rich as him by now..
2- What workers has he "cheated"?
3- He trashed the useless Obamacare, sounds ok to me..
4- As for "abandoning the poor and foreign", most of them are just ungrateful scroungers, so full marks to him for channeling welfare to the American people instead, like Jesus advised-
Jesus said- "It is not good to take the children's bread and throw it to the dogs....do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces" (Matt 15:26,Matt 7:6)
5- I don't see Trump as "idolising" himself, he only idolises America..
Now tell us what's so good about Biden..
Yes, if they won't listen we should walk away rather than waste any more time on them..
Jesus said:- "If people won't listen to you, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave, as a testimony to them" (Matt 10:14/15)
"The Jews argued with him, so Paul said 'I'm clear of my responsibility' and left" (Acts 18:6-7)
Jesus said:- "If people won't listen to you, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave, as a testimony to them" (Matt 10:14/15)
"The Jews argued with him, so Paul said 'I'm clear of my responsibility' and left" (Acts 18:6-7)
If someone disagree with a Bible quote, it means they're disagreeing with the Bible itself, naughty naughty..
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Let me just say, Trump is a complete moron. In 2020 I lived in Tulsa, OK when he came there for a campaign rally. His campaign had people go around and remove the "Social Distancing" stickers placed on every other seat at the BOK Center which were put there to keep distance between people. They also said they didn't want any social distancing signs up anywhere. After that event Tulsa became a major COVID hotspot, even worse than it already was. The town was practically shut down and everyone's life was made miserable. But did Trump care? Apparently not. He didn't deserve to get reelected in my opinion. If anyone wants to know when my support for him stopped, this was the beginning of the end.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...mpaign-stickers-social-distancing-tulsa-video
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...mpaign-stickers-social-distancing-tulsa-video
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So...I can see someone objecting to having a rally at a time when covid is spreading. But whether people skipped a seat or not was never going to make a difference. Everyone in the arena is breathing the same air. It's the same flawed logic that was used in restaurants that you needed to wear a mask while standing but not sitting.
And unless the people attending were compelled, people still have a right to make decisions for themselves. It was their choice to attend. They obviously made the decision to go believing themselves safe even if they contracted the virus. For most people, the effects were little different from a lingering cold.
And unless the people attending were compelled, people still have a right to make decisions for themselves. It was their choice to attend. They obviously made the decision to go believing themselves safe even if they contracted the virus. For most people, the effects were little different from a lingering cold.
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