Taking a break, potentially for good from here in 2024

I disagree with that. The left has gotten so extreme that traditional Americans appear far right to them.

Certainly not because of anything you've said

Haha... Good one

But true. You came in swinging and then say you're tired of being punched.

I understand, but I am tired of the left and right. We need to vote center. I'm pro-life, but for better social justice for all.

Our economy was so much better when we had a Republican in office. The one we have now is the Inflation/Open Border President who lies every time he opens his mouth.

I understand, but I am tired of the left and right. We need to vote center. I'm pro-life, but for better social justice for all.

The Left has gone crazy, and the Right has, more or less, stayed where it's been for years. We on the Right are not the radicals, and we are (generally) not the problem. If you go center, then you are inching Left into crazyland because the Left has gone into truly wacko territory.

Leftism is the only bonafide fascist movement in the US. Not Conservatism. Fascism evolved out a socialism, a Leftist phenomenon. It, like its brother communism, uses street mobs to intimidate its political opposition (BLM, Antifa, Hitler's SA, Mao's Red Guard, Mussolini's Black Shirts), using divisiveness to get infighting within the people (mask/no mask, vaccine/no vaccine, critical race theory, social justice), uses crises to generate fear (climate change, covid)... and all of this to silence opposing narratives, to get the people fighting so we're not watching those in power and we cry out for order, and to get us so afraid that we surrender our liberties for "temporary" emergency powers that are never relinquished. That is ALL coming from the Left today. None of it is coming from the Right. Trump had the perfect opportunity to militarize and collectivize the population -- Covid. But, he didn't. If he is a fascist, he's the worst in history.

The Right is nuts, I guess, because we want freedom of speech and belief preserved. I guess we're also crazy because we support a man who put onto the SCOTUS three originalist judges who are there to CONSERVE our religious liberties, federalism, and all of the other constitutional safeguards against an over-arching government. That PROVES he's a dictator, I guess, because preserving the constitution is the surest road to tyranny.

The Left has gone crazy, and the Right has, more or less, stayed where it's been for years. We on the Right are not the radicals, and we are (generally) not the problem. If you go center, then you are inching Left into crazyland because the Left has gone into truly wacko territory.

Leftism is the only bonafide fascist movement in the US. Not Conservatism. Fascism evolved out a socialism, a Leftist phenomenon. It, like its brother communism, uses street mobs to intimidate its political opposition (BLM, Antifa, Hitler's SA, Mao's Red Guard, Mussolini's Black Shirts), using divisiveness to get infighting within the people (mask/no mask, vaccine/no vaccine, critical race theory, social justice), uses crises to generate fear (climate change, covid)... and all of this to silence opposing narratives, to get the people fighting so we're not watching those in power and we cry out for order, and to get us so afraid that we surrender our liberties for "temporary" emergency powers that are never relinquished. That is ALL coming from the Left today. None of it is coming from the Right. Trump had the perfect opportunity to militarize and collectivize the population -- Covid. But, he didn't. If he is a fascist, he's the worst in history.

The Right is nuts, I guess, because we want freedom of speech and belief preserved. I guess we're also crazy because we support a man who put onto the SCOTUS three originalist judges who are there to CONSERVE our religious liberties, federalism, and all of the other constitutional safeguards against an over-arching government. That PROVES he's a dictator, I guess, because preserving the constitution is the surest road to tyranny.

Our founding forefathers would be rolling over in their graves if they could see how the left is trying to destroy our Constitution.

Yeah, I know my original post contains politics, but that is why I will be leaving this site for a while, cos politics shouldn't even be a thing here

I understand, but I am tired of the left and right. We need to vote center. I'm pro-life, but for better social justice for all.

Politics is a part of life here, even during the Millennial reign there will be a government, so it stands to reason that political topics are discussed in forums such as this.

What about the massacres that happen at schools? Would absolute anarchy be a solution, or banning semi autos. I'd go with the latter.

Yeah, I know my original post contains politics, but that is why I will be leaving this site for a while, cos politics shouldn't even be a thing here

1.) That may be your view, but it may not be everyone's view....
if everyone is entitled to their views, and entitled to free speech, then we end up with everyone sharing their views.

2.) It's not likely you've been getting into any debates about politics here, unless you were doing your part to engage in the debates.... so it's likely you are also responsible for some of the discomfort.

3.) There are different areas of the forum for different things: we should expect debates in some areas, but not in others... we can choose what things we'd like to participate in.

4.) Why is everything so political and divisive right now, not just on CC, but throughout western culture?
a. We live in a time when cultural issues have been stretched apart, intentionally stretched apart beyond any semblance of reason.
b. This stretching apart of every conceivable cultural issue has created deep division, and this has all been intentional.
c. The natural result of these intentionally created divisions is to turn every little matter into a vicious polarizing battle.
d. All of this has been intentional, and it's been effective. All societies in western civilization are being ripped apart.
e. THIS IS THE WORLD WE CURRENTLY INHABIT. IT IS WHAT IT IS.



CLOSING THOUGHTS:
- I hope you enjoy your time away, and I hope you're well and blessed.
- However, as long as CC is a place where free speech is allowed, you will always hear some opinions you dislike.
- Hearing opinions you dislike... that is the unavoidable blessing, and curse, of free speech.
- The only way for one party to stop opinions they dislike, really stop them, is to impose their will on others and take away their rights to speak. Throughout history, the right to speak freely has been seldom seen. It has always been a rare thing. The founders of the U.S. never had it under the rule of monarchs. Most people, throughout history, never had it. Most people, throughout all of human history, have never had freedom of speech. That is why the founders of the U.S. were careful to enshrine it in the founding documents... because it is rare, and uncommon, and precious.



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1.) That may be your view, but it may not be everyone's view....
if everyone is entitled to their views, and entitled to free speech, then we end up with everyone sharing their views.

2.) It's not likely you've been getting into any debates about politics here, unless you were doing your part to engage in the debates.... so it's likely you are also responsible for some of the discomfort.

3.) There are different areas of the forum for different things: we should expect debates in some areas, but not in others... we can choose what things we'd like to participate in.

4.) Why is everything so political and divisive right now, not just on CC, but throughout western culture?
a. We live in a time when cultural issues have been stretched apart, intentionally stretched apart beyond any semblance of reason.
b. This stretching apart of every conceivable cultural issue has created deep division, and this has all been intentional.
c. The natural result of these intentionally created divisions is to turn every little matter into a vicious polarizing battle.
d. All of this has been intentional, and it's been effective. All societies in western civilization are being ripped apart.
e. THIS IS THE WORLD WE CURRENTLY INHABIT. IT IS WHAT IT IS.



CLOSING THOUGHTS:
- I hope you enjoy your time away, and I hope you're well and blessed.
- However, as long as CC is a place where free speech is allowed, you will always hear some opinions you dislike.
- Hearing opinions you dislike... that is the unavoidable blessing, and curse, of free speech.
- The only way for one party to stop opinions they dislike, really stop them, is to impose their will on others and take away their rights to speak. Throughout history, the right to speak freely has been seldom seen. It has always been a rare thing. The founders of the U.S. never had it under the rule of monarchs. Most people, throughout history, never had it. Most people, throughout all of human history, have never had freedom of speech. That is why the founders of the U.S. were careful to enshrine it in the founding documents... because it is rare, and uncommon, and precious.



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What about the massacres that happen at schools? Would absolute anarchy be a solution, or banning semi autos. I'd go with the latter.

Social justice is a far left concept. No where near center. Center is smack dab in the middle of the world... not a good place for a Believer to be.

Yeah, but the right is banning freedom of speech also, and the most extreme are even wanting to ban interracial marriage. Both parties are at fault. Frack Trump, Frack Biden.