The US will send a carrier strike group to the Eastern Mediterranean in support of Israel

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Gideon300

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#81
I believe Moses was ordered to cleanse the land else the original inhabitants would be trouble forever?
The inhabitants of Canaan made Hamas look almost civilised. That's why God judged them and ordered them erased.
 

mailmandan

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Those Not Condemning Hamas are Antisemitic | Newsmax.com

It should not be difficult to condemn terrorism.

It has nothing to do with whether you support the current Israeli government and its policies.

One can sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians, as many of us do. But that has nothing to do with the brutal murders of women and children and the elderly, with the point-blank executions of 260 young people attending a music festival, with the slaughter of children in front of their parents or of parents in front of their children, as Hamas did.

For a very long time, those on the left who have been most critical of Israel's policies have insisted that they are anti-Israel and not antisemites. Not so.

Those who do not condemn Hamas are antisemites. It is as simple as that.

The mass murder of over 1,000 Jews — the worst day in Jewish history since the Holocaust — was driven by hatred of all Jews.

To blame Israel for this mass murder is an expression of antisemitism at its worst.


In New York's Times Square last Sunday, the antisemites held a rally in support of Palestine. They were joined by their allies — Nazis waving swastikas. What is wrong with these people? They are haters, and they cheer the butchers.
 

shittim

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The inhabitants of Canaan made Hamas look almost civilised. That's why God judged them and ordered them erased.
We know the devil is defeated and knows his time is short, thus he is pulling out all stops to steal, kill and destroy before his incarceration begins.
 

shittim

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Those Not Condemning Hamas are Antisemitic | Newsmax.com

It should not be difficult to condemn terrorism.

It has nothing to do with whether you support the current Israeli government and its policies.

One can sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians, as many of us do. But that has nothing to do with the brutal murders of women and children and the elderly, with the point-blank executions of 260 young people attending a music festival, with the slaughter of children in front of their parents or of parents in front of their children, as Hamas did.

For a very long time, those on the left who have been most critical of Israel's policies have insisted that they are anti-Israel and not antisemites. Not so.

Those who do not condemn Hamas are antisemites. It is as simple as that.

The mass murder of over 1,000 Jews — the worst day in Jewish history since the Holocaust — was driven by hatred of all Jews.

To blame Israel for this mass murder is an expression of antisemitism at its worst.

In New York's Times Square last Sunday, the antisemites held a rally in support of Palestine. They were joined by their allies — Nazis waving swastikas. What is wrong with these people? They are haters, and they cheer the butchers.


Their god is not the God of Creation, that is what is wrong, you gotta serve somebody and islame serves the defeated fallen angel.

Come quickly Lord Jesus
 

shittim

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good grief, Ezekiel 38 starting, Syria entering the war.
Now we have an eclipse.
A sign Jesus will return to Salt Lake City? I don't believe so.
 

Dude653

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First of all America was no longer dependent on the Middle East under Trump's presidency. He encouraged and promoted self sufficiency since the USA has plenty of oil, and if not Canada has more than enough to make up the difference. Then there is Russia.

As to electric vehicles, they are a pipe dream and a serious and lethal hazard. Manufacturing their batteries takes so much energy that in the end there is zero advantage. But they only go so far without requiring a recharge. The world has been deceived about electric vehicles but has once again swallowed a lie. Just like the "Climate Change Emergency". THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ADVANTAGE TO EVs.
America still buys oil from countries like Saudi arabia. You know, the country who did 9/11.???
 

ZNP

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Those Not Condemning Hamas are Antisemitic | Newsmax.com

It should not be difficult to condemn terrorism.

It has nothing to do with whether you support the current Israeli government and its policies.

One can sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians, as many of us do. But that has nothing to do with the brutal murders of women and children and the elderly, with the point-blank executions of 260 young people attending a music festival, with the slaughter of children in front of their parents or of parents in front of their children, as Hamas did.

For a very long time, those on the left who have been most critical of Israel's policies have insisted that they are anti-Israel and not antisemites. Not so.

Those who do not condemn Hamas are antisemites. It is as simple as that.

The mass murder of over 1,000 Jews — the worst day in Jewish history since the Holocaust — was driven by hatred of all Jews.

To blame Israel for this mass murder is an expression of antisemitism at its worst.

In New York's Times Square last Sunday, the antisemites held a rally in support of Palestine. They were joined by their allies — Nazis waving swastikas. What is wrong with these people? They are haters, and they cheer the butchers.
I get it that if we blame Israel we are antisemite, but what about if we blame Trump? Isn't that still acceptable?
 

ZNP

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good grief, Ezekiel 38 starting, Syria entering the war.
Now we have an eclipse.
A sign Jesus will return to Salt Lake City? I don't believe so.
The salt flats would be a very good place to land. Especially if we are talking about a whole fleet of angels.
 

ZNP

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America still buys oil from countries like Saudi arabia. You know, the country who did 9/11.???
Saudi Arabia did 9/11? I thought that was the Bush's that ran that op.
 

SomeDisciple

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Why should the USA even do nothing? Israel outguns and outnumbers the people of Gaza by a mile. Gazans got NOTHING on Israel, it can hardly be considered a war. They are already contained and surrounded in Gaza with no electricity, they are incapable of inflicting harm on Israel.
This is a good question; and the answer is that there were Americans killed/hostages taken; but otherwise, I think you're right that Israel can handle Hamas.
 

ZNP

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Why should the USA even do nothing? Israel outguns and outnumbers the people of Gaza by a mile. Gazans got NOTHING on Israel, it can hardly be considered a war. They are already contained and surrounded in Gaza with no electricity, they are incapable of inflicting harm on Israel.
The war is not simply Israel vs Gaza.

Hezbollah is attacking from the North, Iran has given the Taliban free passage to go join the war as well, and the Palestinians are supported directly by Jordan.

Altogether the following countries are supporting the war against Israel directly or indirectly:

Lebanon -- 5.6 million

Syria -- 21 million

Jordan -- 11 million

Gaza -- 2 million

Iran -- 88 million

Afghanistan -- 40 million

Turkey -- 84.7 million

Total population -- 252 million

Also Russia is allied with these countries and is looking to take over the security for the Middle East.

Israel's population is 9 million. They are outnumbered 25:1
 

Ted01

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The war is not simply Israel vs Gaza.

Hezbollah is attacking from the North, Iran has given the Taliban free passage to go join the war as well, and the Palestinians are supported directly by Jordan.

Altogether the following countries are supporting the war against Israel directly or indirectly:

Lebanon -- 5.6 million

Syria -- 21 million

Jordan -- 11 million

Gaza -- 2 million

Iran -- 88 million

Afghanistan -- 40 million

Turkey -- 84.7 million

Total population -- 252 million

Also Russia is allied with these countries and is looking to take over the security for the Middle East.

Israel's population is 9 million. They are outnumbered 25:1
Isn't that citizens... not military?
 

ZNP

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Isn't that citizens... not military?
Of course it is their national population, but GDP and the size of your military would be related to how many people in the country.
 

gb9

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The war is not simply Israel vs Gaza.

Hezbollah is attacking from the North, Iran has given the Taliban free passage to go join the war as well, and the Palestinians are supported directly by Jordan.

Altogether the following countries are supporting the war against Israel directly or indirectly:

Lebanon -- 5.6 million

Syria -- 21 million

Jordan -- 11 million

Gaza -- 2 million

Iran -- 88 million

Afghanistan -- 40 million

Turkey -- 84.7 million

Total population -- 252 million

Also Russia is allied with these countries and is looking to take over the security for the Middle East.

Israel's population is 9 million. They are outnumbered 25:1

but, they have lots of weapons, including nukes.
 

gb9

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If Israel Nukes them you will get all 1.8 billion muslims united against them.
would you not say that having most of the muslim world against them is already the case??
 

HeIsHere

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would you not say that having most of the muslim world against them is already the case??
The only people Israel wants to be rid of are those on what they consider to be their land, they have various levels of peace treaties with surrounding countries, geopolitics is about money/resources/power the uniformed think it is about religion.
 

Komentaja

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The war is not simply Israel vs Gaza.

Hezbollah is attacking from the North, Iran has given the Taliban free passage to go join the war as well, and the Palestinians are supported directly by Jordan.

Altogether the following countries are supporting the war against Israel directly or indirectly:

Lebanon -- 5.6 million

Syria -- 21 million

Jordan -- 11 million

Gaza -- 2 million

Iran -- 88 million

Afghanistan -- 40 million

Turkey -- 84.7 million

Total population -- 252 million

Also Russia is allied with these countries and is looking to take over the security for the Middle East.

Israel's population is 9 million. They are outnumbered 25:1
None of these countries have done anything. Few towelheads shooting rockets isnt exactly Lebanon going to war, its just Hezbollah being hezbollah.
 

shittim

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The only people Israel wants to be rid of are those on what they consider to be their land, they have various levels of peace treaties with surrounding countries, geopolitics is about money/resources/power the uniformed think it is about religion.
"uniformed" or "Uninformed"?