If God is the Authority of the Bible, why do Many Christians Continue to Believe Lies of the Mainstream Media?

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rrcn

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So, where do you get your news?
 

DRobinson

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Why are you surprised?
Many Christians also believe false teachers.
 

wolfwint

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Did He really think the vaccine mandate was no big deal?
Maby people made a deal with it. But to trust conspiracy theorys which telling lies are not better then mainstream media which telling lies. No mainstream media claimes that 65% of the people who got the vaccine will die after one year. No proof that the vaccine changes the DNA of an person. No proof that the vaccines reduce the worldpopulation.
This and much more was to find from no mainstream media sources.
So why I shoild trust such sources, because they claim to be from Christians?
The same medias spread the fairy tale of a stolen election.
Trustworth? No
 

ZNP

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Maby people made a deal with it. But to trust conspiracy theorys which telling lies are not better then mainstream media which telling lies. No mainstream media claimes that 65% of the people who got the vaccine will die after one year. No proof that the vaccine changes the DNA of an person. No proof that the vaccines reduce the worldpopulation.
This and much more was to find from no mainstream media sources.
So why I shoild trust such sources, because they claim to be from Christians?
The same medias spread the fairy tale of a stolen election.
Trustworth? No
MSM is now reporting that Politicians are apologizing for the mandate and that the US DOD is paying a settlement to those harmed by it.

Others have tried to sue for harm from a vaccine they were mandated to take or else lose their job and then have learned you can't sue, when you took the "experimental vaccine" you waived your rights. We warned that was the case and were told to stop being alarmists.

Stop trying to defend your position concerning the vaccine mandate, it is indefensible, and referring to individual claims concerning the vaccine is simply a red herring. This discussion is about the mandate of an experimental vaccine, not about the efficacy of the vaccine.
 

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The mainstream media is always up to its old tricks, and yet many Christians continue to embrace their lies in 2023. Why?
Yeah... Good question. They fail to examine the MSM propaganda and their faith at the same time.
 

Gojira

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What is your definition of “main stream media”?
Legacy news outlets, like the original 3 networks, along with age-old newspapers like the NY and LA Times... as well as others that have since popped up and are considered (by Leftists) to be centrist and objective.
 

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MSM is now reporting that Politicians are apologizing for the mandate and that the US DOD is paying a settlement to those harmed by it.

Others have tried to sue for harm from a vaccine they were mandated to take or else lose their job and then have learned you can't sue, when you took the "experimental vaccine" you waived your rights. We warned that was the case and were told to stop being alarmists.

Stop trying to defend your position concerning the vaccine mandate, it is indefensible, and referring to individual claims concerning the vaccine is simply a red herring. This discussion is about the mandate of an experimental vaccine, not about the efficacy of the vaccine.
1. Afterwards people are mostly more clever then before. Maby the mandate Was wrong for certain age groups.
2. This is no excuse for certain sources which spread false Informations and conspiracy theorys about the vaccine. Was Was there Motive? Making money? Because there are enough people which are open for such Informations.
3. In any case it should be tryed to find out the true Information about something.
 

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1. Afterwards people are mostly more clever then before. Maby the mandate Was wrong for certain age groups.
2. This is no excuse for certain sources which spread false Informations and conspiracy theorys about the vaccine. Was Was there Motive? Making money? Because there are enough people which are open for such Informations.
3. In any case it should be tryed to find out the true Information about something.
Enough with being unaccountable.

1. We are not complaining in hindsight, we said at the time of the mandate that it was illegal. We had two effective treatments (HCQ and Ivermectin) and it was an experimental vaccine. It was cut and dry, black and white, illegal.

2. You are the one who is spreading false information and conspiracy theories. We were not accusing them of doing this out of a profit motive, we had no idea what the reason was, we simply said the vaccine should not be mandated, that is illegal, and forcing us to lose our jobs because of it was unrighteous.

3. Yes, that also is what we said, before forcing people to take a "vaccine" that had not been tested thoroughly and properly they should do that first. We were shouted down as tin foil hat conspiracy theorists nuts. We pointed out that all the vaccines that are currently mandated took 50 years of testing and trial before they got one that was both safe and effective. Again, shouted down by people like you and including you, filled with arrogance that "we were smarter now".

When are you going to confess and repent?
 

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Enough with being unaccountable.

1. We are not complaining in hindsight, we said at the time of the mandate that it was illegal. We had two effective treatments (HCQ and Ivermectin) and it was an experimental vaccine. It was cut and dry, black and white, illegal.

2. You are the one who is spreading false information and conspiracy theories. We were not accusing them of doing this out of a profit motive, we had no idea what the reason was, we simply said the vaccine should not be mandated, that is illegal, and forcing us to lose our jobs because of it was unrighteous.

3. Yes, that also is what we said, before forcing people to take a "vaccine" that had not been tested thoroughly and properly they should do that first. We were shouted down as tin foil hat conspiracy theorists nuts. We pointed out that all the vaccines that are currently mandated took 50 years of testing and trial before they got one that was both safe and effective. Again, shouted down by people like you and including you, filled with arrogance that "we were smarter now".

When are you going to confess and repent?
Then be glad that the virus Was not like the ebola virus
And be glad that you lost not your life and health through the virus.
Where please I spread any conspiracy theory?
 

ZNP

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Then be glad that the virus Was not like the ebola virus
And be glad that you lost not your life and health through the virus.
Where please I spread any conspiracy theory?
You said that we questioned the mandate by accusing them of doing it for a profit. That was not true, a baloney conspiracy theory.

Post #27 2. This is no excuse for certain sources which spread false Informations and conspiracy theorys about the vaccine. Was Was there Motive? Making money? Because there are enough people which are open for such Informations.

When we protested the mandate it was about the law. It was an illegal mandate, it was obviously and brazenly illegal. I have said repeatedly I don't care if you choose to get the vaccine. As far as I am concerned you are a volunteer for human trials, that is how we test vaccines. What we protested was mandating people to be human guinea pigs and taking their jobs away if they refuse. The evidence was overwhelming that this virus was not a threat to children, mandating them to get the vaccine was criminal and justifying it because they might bring it into the house of an elderly person was heinous. Every person should be able to decide for themselves if it makes sense to get an experimental vaccine.

We weren't protesting drug companies making a profit. These are irrelevant red herrings.
 

Karlon

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what are the poll numbers on that question?
 

wolfwint

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MSM is now reporting that Politicians are apologizing for the mandate and that the US DOD is paying a settlement to those harmed by it.

Others have tried to sue for harm from a vaccine they were mandated to take or else lose their job and then have learned you can't sue, when you took the "experimental vaccine" you waived your rights. We warned that was the case and were told to stop being alarmists.

Stop trying to defend your position concerning the vaccine mandate, it is indefensible, and referring to individual claims concerning the vaccine is simply a red herring. This discussion is about the mandate of an experimental vaccine, not about the efficacy of the vaccine.
You are realy funny. If an desease arise, where nobody can now how dangerous it will be. Then there is no time to make an 5-7 years phase to see how the vaccine will work.
You have to make very quick the decision to produce or not. With in mind doesnt matter what you decides, there will be always people there to tell you: WRONG!
That you have so much sideeffects with the vaccine you could have with any other vaccine, too. If you consider how much people in a short time got the vaccine. So far I cant renember in whole history that an vaccine/medicine was given an to such a mass of people worldwide. And in such a short time.
And please, do not forget how many people died with Covid and have still serious health problems because of the virus.
 

wolfwint

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You said that we questioned the mandate by accusing them of doing it for a profit. That was not true, a baloney conspiracy theory.

Post #27 2. This is no excuse for certain sources which spread false Informations and conspiracy theorys about the vaccine. Was Was there Motive? Making money? Because there are enough people which are open for such Informations.

When we protested the mandate it was about the law. It was an illegal mandate, it was obviously and brazenly illegal. I have said repeatedly I don't care if you choose to get the vaccine. As far as I am concerned you are a volunteer for human trials, that is how we test vaccines. What we protested was mandating people to be human guinea pigs and taking their jobs away if they refuse. The evidence was overwhelming that this virus was not a threat to children, mandating them to get the vaccine was criminal and justifying it because they might bring it into the house of an elderly person was heinous. Every person should be able to decide for themselves if it makes sense to get an experimental vaccine.

We weren't protesting drug companies making a profit. These are irrelevant red herrings.
The freedom of an person ends, where the right of another person begins, right?
If people bring others in danger because they saying its my right of freedom. Then what is to say about this?
 

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In answer to the title question: because God doesn't report on current events in the Bible.
 

ZNP

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You are realy funny. If an desease arise, where nobody can now how dangerous it will be. Then there is no time to make an 5-7 years phase to see how the vaccine will work.
You have to make very quick the decision to produce or not. With in mind doesnt matter what you decides, there will be always people there to tell you: WRONG!
That you have so much sideeffects with the vaccine you could have with any other vaccine, too. If you consider how much people in a short time got the vaccine. So far I cant renember in whole history that an vaccine/medicine was given an to such a mass of people worldwide. And in such a short time.
And please, do not forget how many people died with Covid and have still serious health problems because of the virus.
Once again, stop changing the subject, we are talking about mandating an experimental vaccine. The law is very clear, it is illegal to mandate an experimental vaccine if there are viable treatments. Studies have proven that HCQ and Ivermectin are both effective, proven and safe treatments.

Second, if you do mandate an experimental vaccine you are required by law to provide all research on the vaccine in an insert when the person got the shot, they gave people a blank piece of paper. The reason they did that was because the research proved it was neither safe nor effective.

This isn't up for debate, the vaccine mandate was clearly and undeniably illegal.
 

ZNP

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The freedom of an person ends, where the right of another person begins, right?
If people bring others in danger because they saying its my right of freedom. Then what is to say about this?
The law is crystal clear, you cannot mandate that I take a vaccine because that will somehow make you feel better. That is Nazi babble.
 

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You are realy funny. If an desease arise, where nobody can now how dangerous it will be. Then there is no time to make an 5-7 years phase to see how the vaccine will work.
You have to make very quick the decision to produce or not. With in mind doesnt matter what you decides, there will be always people there to tell you: WRONG!
That you have so much sideeffects with the vaccine you could have with any other vaccine, too. If you consider how much people in a short time got the vaccine. So far I cant renember in whole history that an vaccine/medicine was given an to such a mass of people worldwide. And in such a short time.
And please, do not forget how many people died with Covid and have still serious health problems because of the virus.

You are either astonishingly unaware of the vast mountains of documented and corroborated evidence to the contrary...
or you work for Pfizer.


It's ok, everybody needs a job.

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ZNP

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You are either astonishingly unaware of the vast mountains of documented and corroborated evidence to the contrary...
or you work for Pfizer.


It's ok, everybody needs a job.

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1Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
 

wolfwint

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The law is crystal clear, you cannot mandate that I take a vaccine because that will somehow make you feel better. That is Nazi babble.
What is law, is normal in the hand of the government. And dont worry, i cant and dont want make you to take the vaccine.
One thing, only because I am a german, means not that I am a Nazi.
 

wolfwint

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You are either astonishingly unaware of the vast mountains of documented and corroborated evidence to the contrary...
or you work for Pfizer.


It's ok, everybody needs a job.

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Maby we trust different media. Still is for me the virus more worse then the vaccine.

Thank you, that I must not leave my job for Pfizer 😉