Isaiah 54:5, The Word Teaches

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JaumeJ

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5 For thy Maker is thy husband, the LORD of hosts is His name; and the Holy One of Israel is thy Redeemer, the God of the whole earth shall He be called.
 

Pilgrimshope

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5 For thy Maker is thy husband, the LORD of hosts is His name; and the Holy One of Israel is thy Redeemer, the God of the whole earth shall He be called.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

…That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1-4, 9-14, 16-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. ( in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God the word was made flesh and dwelt among us then he returned to heaven and his eternal glory)

I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:4-6‬ ‭
 

JaumeJ

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“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

…That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1-4, 9-14, 16-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. ( in the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God the word was made flesh and dwelt among us then he returned to heaven and his eternal glory)

I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:4-6‬ ‭
All the above is truth. Now Isaiah is the same prophet who relates to us that Jesus would have the titles of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in Isa 9:6i.
We know this is truth there for we know Who our Spouse is come the Kingdom, unified with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, for they are One.
Now even in the Old Testament we are taught, God is our Husband, God is our King, God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, for God is One.

I was given faith with the entering into me by the Holy Spirit, ergo, I believe what is writtne many times in the Word. NO! I am not given to make this mystery clear, but I am given to believe God, I pray and hope all are willing to believe Him in these teachings from Him..
 

selahsays

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5 For thy Maker is thy husband, the LORD of hosts is His name; and the Holy One of Israel is thy Redeemer, the God of the whole earth shall He be called.
I can’t help but focus on “the God of the whole earth shall He be called.”

selah
 

Cameron143

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I can’t help but focus on “the God of the whole earth shall He be called.”

selah
A day is coming when every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
 

Pilgrimshope

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All the above is truth. Now Isaiah is the same prophet who relates to us that Jesus would have the titles of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in Isa 9:6i.
We know this is truth there for we know Who our Spouse is come the Kingdom, unified with the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, for they are One.
Now even in the Old Testament we are taught, God is our Husband, God is our King, God is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, for God is One.

I was given faith with the entering into me by the Holy Spirit, ergo, I believe what is writtne many times in the Word. NO! I am not given to make this mystery clear, but I am given to believe God, I pray and hope all are willing to believe Him in these teachings from Him..
amen

It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:45‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

“But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:27-30‬ ‭

“Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.”
‭‭John‬ ‭18:37‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“But ye have not so learned Christ; if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:20-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Nehemiah6

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All the above is truth. Now Isaiah is the same prophet who relates to us that Jesus would have the titles of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in Isa 9:6i.
That is completely FALSE. "Everlasting Father" as applied to Christ is not the same as "God the Father". And the Holy Spirit is not even mentioned in that verse.

JOHN GILL'S COMMENTARY
The everlasting Father; which does not design any relation of Christ in the Godhead; and there is but one Father in the Godhead, and that is the first Person; indeed Christ and the Father are one, and the Father is in him, and he is in the Father, and he that has seen the one has seen the other, and yet they are distinct, Christ is not the Father;.. Some render the words, "the Father of eternity" (s); the author of eternal life, who has procured it for his people, and gives it to them; or to whom eternity belongs, who inhabits it, and is possessed of it, is the everlasting I AM, was before all persons and things, was set up in an office capacity from everlasting, and had a glory with the Father before the world was, in whom eternal election, and with whom the everlasting covenant, were made.

Micah 5:2 speaks of Christ and says "whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting".

You may hate the idea that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are THREE distinct divine persons. but the Bible fully supports it. Which means that you are opposing God in this matter.
 

Omegatime

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That is completely FALSE. "Everlasting Father" as applied to Christ is not the same as "God the Father". And the Holy Spirit is not even mentioned in that verse.

JOHN GILL'S COMMENTARY
The everlasting Father; which does not design any relation of Christ in the Godhead; and there is but one Father in the Godhead, and that is the first Person; indeed Christ and the Father are one, and the Father is in him, and he is in the Father, and he that has seen the one has seen the other, and yet they are distinct, Christ is not the Father;.. Some render the words, "the Father of eternity" (s); the author of eternal life, who has procured it for his people, and gives it to them; or to whom eternity belongs, who inhabits it, and is possessed of it, is the everlasting I AM, was before all persons and things, was set up in an office capacity from everlasting, and had a glory with the Father before the world was, in whom eternal election, and with whom the everlasting covenant, were made.

Micah 5:2 speaks of Christ and says "whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting".

You may hate the idea that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are THREE distinct divine persons. but the Bible fully supports it. Which means that you are opposing God in this matter.
I suppose next you will quote: Show me the Father and I will be satisfied.
 

Pilgrimshope

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That is completely FALSE. "Everlasting Father" as applied to Christ is not the same as "God the Father". And the Holy Spirit is not even mentioned in that verse.

JOHN GILL'S COMMENTARY
The everlasting Father; which does not design any relation of Christ in the Godhead; and there is but one Father in the Godhead, and that is the first Person; indeed Christ and the Father are one, and the Father is in him, and he is in the Father, and he that has seen the one has seen the other, and yet they are distinct, Christ is not the Father;.. Some render the words, "the Father of eternity" (s); the author of eternal life, who has procured it for his people, and gives it to them; or to whom eternity belongs, who inhabits it, and is possessed of it, is the everlasting I AM, was before all persons and things, was set up in an office capacity from everlasting, and had a glory with the Father before the world was, in whom eternal election, and with whom the everlasting covenant, were made.

Micah 5:2 speaks of Christ and says "whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting".

You may hate the idea that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are THREE distinct divine persons. but the Bible fully supports it. Which means that you are opposing God in this matter.
“You may hate the idea that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are THREE distinct divine persons. but the Bible fully supports it.”

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭5:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭6:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: that they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭45:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The LORD is in his holy temple, The LORD's throne is in heaven: His eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭11:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there were any that did understand, And seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: There is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭14:2-3‬ ‭


“Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.

For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence. So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭59:15-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭44:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1, 3-4, 9-10, 12-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. ( father son and holy ghost in one person our lord and god revealed so we can believe ….we do not have multiple gods the Holy Spirit is the spirit of God the son is god made flesh ) Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The Bible does not support multiple dieties or Gods or lord or spirits but one God , who gave his spirit to believers through the son who was manifest for our benefit the children of God

Yhe holy spirit is not an individual person it is the spirit of Jesus our lord

This is not three people

“In the beginning God created ( father the beginning the creator ) the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved ( gods living spirit not some o the second diety but the spirit of god his spirit ) upon the face of the waters. And God said,( word of god his spoken words coming out of him ) Let there be light: and there was light.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

The word was made flesh , the holy ghost is his spirit the spirit of god given to believers so he can dwell
In them and be with them

there’s one God his name is Jesus , he was made flesh , was and is preached to the world in the gospel he is believed in in the world and he was taken up into glory after he accomplished the works of salvation for mankind

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.”
‭‭John‬ ‭20:28-29‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The gospel is what the god of heaven has done for his creation to save us

“Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭20:28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

He became a man flesh and blood and laid down his life to save us then returned to his eternal glory having created a high priest forever

There was no intercessor now there is

 

Nehemiah6

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The holy spirit is not an individual person it is the spirit of Jesus our lord
If what you say is true (and it is only partially true in a different context) then who alighted like a dove at the baptism of Christ? And who overshadowed Mary so that Jesus was conceived? Do you see the folly of your assertion? Putting together a mishmash of Scriptures helps no one.
 

Nehemiah6

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I suppose next you will quote: Show me the Father and I will be satisfied.
Why would I quote that? Just because Jesus the Son of God is called "the Everlasting Father" does not mean that He has replaced the Father. And the Hebrew simply says "everlasting". There must be a proper and biblical explanation for the use of that designation. This verse may be partly related: ...And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me. (Heb 2:13) Those are the words of Christ. At the same time they are called Christ's "brethren" (v 17). So there is no easy explanation here.
 
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Isaiah 48:17 Thus saith the LORD, thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; I am the LORD thy God which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go.
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JaumeJ

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I can’t help but focus on “the God of the whole earth shall He be called.”

selah
It is also written He will be over all the nations. More upon which to meditate? Perhaps, but our faith allows us to believe God before we understand wholly. Just as did Mary.

This takes my thinking to the Millennium.
 

Omegatime

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Age and Ministries of God

Age we are in now is the Holy Spirit, where the Lord no longer walks among us, the time of the gentiles.

The Son Yeshua, the ministry was about 3 years.

But if you want to know what the Father knows; as the Lord was teaching, this age and ministry of the Father is the Old Testament, this is the building block of knowledge where all other scripture builds upon.