Israel Declares War

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cv5

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I have no idea what you are saying but it was a complete misunderstanding of what I said and has nothing to do with what I said.
Good. Then that post was for @HeIsHere to consider.

Though I do think this prophecy business is far beyond his capabilities and perception. Tragic really.
 

ZNP

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Good. Then that post was for @HeIsHere to consider.

Though I do think this prophecy business is far beyond his capabilities and perception. Tragic really.
There is no way I would want to have a teacher who had that opinion about me. If that is your opinion about HeIsHere I think it would be better to not even speak but rather pray about removing the beam from your own eye.
 

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There is no way I would want to have a teacher who had that opinion about me. If that is your opinion about HeIsHere I think it would be better to not even speak but rather pray about removing the beam from your own eye.
Teacher? I am no teacher.
I am more about warning. Warning people to dismiss the unbiblical claims of the 70AD crowd. As well as the prophecy deniers.

But hey......if you choose to support that @HeIsHere giggle emoji guy knock yourself out.

And the truth is.......I have already posted far more than enough to disprove his claims. And he STILL doesn't get it.
So it is quite evident that I am NOT a teacher. More like a "warner".
 

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Teacher? I am no teacher.
I am more about warning. Warning people to dismiss the unbiblical claims of the 70AD crowd. As well as the prophecy deniers.

But hey......if you choose to support that @HeIsHere giggle emoji guy knock yourself out.

And the truth is.......I have already posted far more than enough to disprove his claims. And he STILL doesn't get it.
So it is quite evident that I am NOT a teacher. More like a "warner".
I am not supporting him, I ignore his posts. If you are warning you don't have to worry about what others do with your warnings, God is very clear, once you warn your responsibility is taken care of, what they do with the warning is between them and God.
 

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I am not supporting him, I ignore his posts. If you are warning you don't have to worry about what others do with your warnings, God is very clear, once you warn your responsibility is taken care of, what they do with the warning is between them and God.
Totally agree. Moreover, I do not intend on even so much as persuading anybody. Why would I try to violate their free will to choose?
We only inform aka broadcast seed. Whether there is a harvest is beyond our purview.
 

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True but he did keep his hard core antisemitism from the Catholic church. He tried to convert the Jews and when they refused he threw a temper tantrum and said some horrific things against them. As posted about he wrote a sermon that was hate filled.




Ok, replace Jews with Mormons, or Catholics pick someone. Imagine this is your pastors sermon today, let's play pretend.

Mormons/JWS/ ... What we should do is "SET FIRE to their synagogues or schools" also their homes need to “be razed and destroyed" their. “prayer books , should be taken from them.”
“their priest/bishop [should] be forbidden to teach on pain of loss of life and limb.”


Further "safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Catholics/Mormons/JWs,” and that “all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them.”

What they can do is "to have “a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade” put into their hands so they can “earn their bread in the sweat of their brow.”

So, your pretend pastor says to sum up;

(1) burn their schools and synagogues

(2) transfer them to community settlements

(3) confiscate all their literature

(4) prohibit them to teach on pain of death

(5) deny deny them safe-conduct, so as to prevent the spread of their beliefs

(6) appropriate their wealth and use it to support converts and to prevent the lewd practice of usury

(7) assign them to manual labor as a form of penance.

No let's close with "Oh How He Loves You and Me".
I'm curious why it's so easy to condemn Martin Luther's words but some Christians are reluctant to condemn Talmud believing Jews. Their satanic book teaches our Savior is boiling in excrement. Sure, I can easily rebuke anyone who encourages others to burn synagogues down... are you so brave and courageous to rebuke Talmud believing Jews? Or is it antisemitic to do so?
 

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I'm curious why it's so easy to condemn Martin Luther's words but some Christians are reluctant to condemn Talmud believing Jews. Their satanic book teaches our Savior is boiling in excrement. Sure, I can easily rebuke anyone who encourages others to burn synagogues down... are you so brave and courageous to rebuke Talmud believing Jews? Or is it antisemitic to do so?

Well we happen to have a Jewish person here. Why don't you ask her?! Because she says Jesus isn't mentioned in the Talmud. She is an orthodox Jew. So why don't you jump to her thread and ask her? Or do you have the courage to do so?
 

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Well we happen to have a Jewish person here. Why don't you ask her?! Because she says Jesus isn't mentioned in the Talmud. She is an orthodox Jew. So why don't you jump to her thread and ask her? Or do you have the courage to do so?
Really? I'm curious who "Yeshu" (Aramaic vocalization of Yeshua) is then... :unsure:
 

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I'm curious why it's so easy to condemn Martin Luther's words but some Christians are reluctant to condemn Talmud believing Jews. Their satanic book teaches our Savior is boiling in excrement. Sure, I can easily rebuke anyone who encourages others to burn synagogues down... are you so brave and courageous to rebuke Talmud believing Jews? Or is it antisemitic to do so?
Friend.....let it be known that we Christians DO NOT make it a practice to judge, condemn or criticize other religions and unsaved sinners of this age.

We are commanded to judge ONLY within the confines of the believing Church.

We do not have the power and wisdom to judge.......presently. We are to preach and broadcast seed. Thats it.

Which is why I think these threads where "taking sides" in an earthly conflict is a dangerous seduction.

Forget it. I have great pity and compassion for the Gazans. And for the Talmudic Jews. And all the other Jews and gentiles of this age.
They have yet to be freed from the chains of sin and death.
 

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cv5

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sigh ... not to irritate anyone, but Jesus said He's the true temple.
the temple building was a type, the dwelling place of God, where God meets with His people. Eden was a garden temple where God met with His people.

Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. (1Pet 2:16-17)

earlier, same chapter:

To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious, Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. (v 4-10)
And your point is what exactly? That all biblical prophecy yet future is null and void?

Consider that the Satan-man, "the lie", the counterfeit, the future Judas, the son of perdition a.k.a. the Antichrist.......has yet to arise to power. This counterfit will arise exactly as specified in prophecy during the 70th week......."forcing" the sons of Adam to make a choice.

Demon armies waging war against men. A war in heaven where Satan is kicked out to enter into the man of sin. Lying signs and wonders. Moses and Elijah on the earth bringing curses and fire. Death halted for five months as a merciful sign to warn man of the horrors of eternal dying in the lake of fire. Tribulation greater than the flood of Noah. So great that no flesh would be saved lest those days be shortened.

Has any of this occurred yet? Of course not. But it will inevitably.

All of this by God's design.
 

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If you like being "played" for the great reset that is your choice.

I'll stick with the great revealing of Christ Jesus in the Book of Revelation which ties it all together.
You either have low view of Scripture.....or no view whatsoever. As in who cares what the Bible acually says.

Probably the latter.

"take what is yours and go your way" Matt 20:14

Words you definitely do not want to hear.......
 

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And your point is what exactly? That all biblical prophecy yet future is null and void?

Consider that the Satan-man, "the lie", the counterfeit, the future Judas, the son of perdition a.k.a. the Antichrist.......has yet to arise to power. This counterfit will arise exactly as specified in prophecy during the 70th week......."forcing" the sons of Adam to make a choice.

Demon armies waging war against men. A war in heaven where Satan is kicked out to enter into the man of sin. Lying signs and wonders. Moses and Elijah on the earth bringing curses and fire. Death halted for five months as a merciful sign to warn man of the horrors of eternal dying in the lake of fire. Tribulation greater than the flood of Noah. So great that no flesh would be saved lest those days be shortened.

Has any of this occurred yet? Of course not. But it will inevitably.

All of this by God's design.
Relax, this is how they treated the prophets. Three years ago the ridicule was intense when I started a blog on the rapture, today the majority of Americans think we are about to see the rapture. Not the majority of Christians, the majority of Americans. It takes a special kind of stupid to ignore everything going on, imagine a Christian who is supposed to know the bible being rebuked by atheists and agnostics and unbelievers.

This reminds me of a story of when I was in college. I signed up for this class on the Bible and the first day we all introduce ourselves and what we hope to get out of the class and then the teacher begins to explain how the Bible says certain things that aren't true. He gives the example of the sun standing still in Joshua. A student who identified as either an atheist or agnostic corrected him saying NASA had determined that such an event had happened. I decided then and there to drop the class, who needs to learn about the bible from someone who even atheists are rebuking for not believing it.
 

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You missed it then, there are people here who support Israel blowing up more children than Hamas terrorists as a way for Israel to exercise "self-defense".

You framed it as simply anyone who is for blowing up children which you are hopefully correct in that no one here supports that. However, people here clearly do support Israel blowing up more children than Hamas terrorists in their right to "self-defense". But you might have a point that those people might be better suited going to psychopathchat.com.
Well done for twisting the words of people like myself who support Israel's right to self defence. The only enemy that Gazans need fear is Hamas. If Hamas surrenders, Gazans will be safe. Hamas is killing Gaza's innocents, not Israel.

Hamas has not the military power to defeat Israel so they are trying turn the world against Israel. Every civilian death is useful to Hamas' cause. What is worse is that Israel is not going to let up. If anything, Hamas is motivating Israel to increase their efforts so as to end the war before world opinion hardens against her.

How do I know this? Former Hamas leaders and captured fighters have said so. And the evidence is plain to see with Hamas fighting positions in civilian areas, including schools, hospitals and even a scout hall. Israel's only mistake was to allow Hamas to become so strong in the first place.
 

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You missed it then, there are people here who support Israel blowing up more children than Hamas terrorists as a way for Israel to exercise "self-defense".

You framed it as simply anyone who is for blowing up children which you are hopefully correct in that no one here supports that. However, people here clearly do support Israel blowing up more children than Hamas terrorists in their right to "self-defense". But you might have a point that those people might be better suited going to psychopathchat.com.
So what did Jesus say about the atrocities of Herod? Or even disasterous happenstances?

"except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish".

Offenses will come. Injustices are everywhere and will continue. And the Gazans have every opportunity to receive salvation NOW just for the asking. Doing so will ensure their eternal destiny. Which is all that really matters.......

THAT is the only solution Jesus provides in this present fallen world.
 

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You either have low view of Scripture.....or no view whatsoever. As in who cares what the Bible acually says.

Probably the latter.

"take what is yours and go your way" Matt 20:14

Words you definitely do not want to hear.......
So ridiculous :rolleyes:
 

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You missed it then, there are people here who support Israel blowing up more children than Hamas terrorists as a way for Israel to exercise "self-defense".

You framed it as simply anyone who is for blowing up children which you are hopefully correct in that no one here supports that. However, people here clearly do support Israel blowing up more children than Hamas terrorists in their right to "self-defense". But you might have a point that those people might be better suited going to psychopathchat.com.
So you are happy to see Israel at best suffer 7th October attacks for the rest of time, or at worst, cease to exist? Those are the alternatives to Israel crushing Hamas. If you have a solution that does not involve either of those two scenarios, I'm sure the world will beat a path to your door to hear it.
 

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So what did Jesus say about the atrocities of Herod? Or even disasterous happenstances?

"except ye repent ye shall all likewise perish".

Offenses will come. Injustices are everywhere and will continue. And the Gazans have every opportunity to receive salvation NOW just for the asking. Doing so will ensure their eternal destiny. Which is all that really matters.......

THAT is the only solution Jesus provides in this present fallen world.
FYI, around 200 Gazans saw Jesus in their dreams. Christians in Gaza have been helping out where they can. Those 200 have sought salvation. (Source CBN News)