Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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ZNP

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If Biden Is removed are you ready for the alternative,I mean who will be president If Biden Is removed?
You obviously have not read my blog.

The US is the mystery Great Babylon. The entire world has come to hate this country because of her sorceries. The judgement is coming from the Lord and it will hit the US in one hour. I and about 1500 others have been praying every week for this nation, but the judgment is determined and will no longer be delayed. The Lord is disgusted with this nation. The Moloch worshippers and Satan worshippers will be judged, the apostate church will be judged and I suspect 60 million will die in this surprise attack.

I have said repeatedly I do not believe we will have an election in November. One reason is that the criminals in power would rather go down like scarface rather than to peacefully hand over power to someone given to retribution.

This judgement is for an appointed day. I don't know what that day is, but I would point out that Russia who is at the tip of the spear of this coalition against us would really like that day to be Christmas. In 1989 the USSR collapsed on Christmas day and the world rejoiced saying "peace and security". Putin has been planning this ever since. Also, N. Korea has already promised the US a "Christmas present". Also, China would like to collect the sales for this Christmas season before seeing the US destroyed. Iran views the US as the great Satan, so what better day to strike than Santa's day. But who knows when the attack is. However, I have heard that it will be preceded by 3 days of darkness. There are 35,000 terrorists in place in this country, they can cause a nationwide blackout and that will cause so much chaos and confusion it will open the day for the attack. Also, amazingly it turns out that 99% of our military bases depend on the nations electric grid.
 

ZNP

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That every time Trump says something outrages people try to Interpret what he said to really mean something totally different than what he said,It’s like he can’t say ANYTHING wrong.BTW,what did he mean when he said he could shoot someone and not lose Any support.?BTW,I think what he said Is really true to some like yourself.IE..(Ilk)😅
Someone like me? I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, that quote being one of the reasons.
 

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Tucker Drops DARK Warning About Deep State REMOVING Trump Before 2024 | ‘This is the END’

 

ThereRoseaLamb

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It is fair to point out PROVIDED you realize that isn't a good defense for Trump. Biden isn't the standard, he is the opposite of the standard for me personally. If most Christians were Biden supporters, it would actually make sense to play "whatabout'ism" with Biden. Unless I'm overlooking any Biden supporters here?

Most,some, a little, I don't know the stats. I know no one gets into office without the evangelical vote. So either they supported him or stayed home last time. I don't have the stats on that.

It's also true that Lot and his daughters were "from a different era" too, but God had already condemned incest and rape. So pointing out people are from different eras does absolutely nothing to defend the guilty party... so why bring it up if it does nothing to the context?
Making the point that both men feel the same way about women and treat them the same. Didn't say it was Biblical, didn't say I defend it. They are from the same era and see things the same way.



As for the comment(s) we are speaking about, take your pick... there are a multitude of them.

‘Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife’?
‘If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father...

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Allegedly...


‘If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her’
How would that be incest? He was known to date young beautiful women. He thinks his daughter is beautiful. I don't see a problem with that. I believe he was being facetious.


Now this one there isn't video/audio evidence like the ones above, but per WH aides, they said he regularly talked about what it would be like to have sex with Ivanka... John Kelly apparently reminded him that she was his daughter. Did Trump for sure say it? When we consider his previous comments, it's absolutely reasonable and believable he did.
Sure believe what you want. I don't. I don't think he meant anything sexual about his daughter. If I did, I call it out as wrong. I've heard all kinds of odd comments from parents that I thought could be taken wrong. Clearly he was joking in the clip. Again, believe what you want. But don't act like Biden is different or morally better.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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They love him because he shares thier hatred.
Really? Because all the people here, I'm pretty sure I have personally shown you the opposite of hatred. And I don't appreciate being talked about like I do hate people because of a dozen different reasons. You and I both agree trans and homosexual lifestyles are against what G-d intended and that it's wrong. Does that mean you or I hate gay people?! People of a different race than I am, or religious believe, you only know me through a few encounters here. Do I impress you as a dumb person, racist and seething with hate? Because I have family and friends that I love that agree with me and they aren't seething with hate of anyone. So why are we continually pinned with this lie? Biden has made many racist comments, but no one would dare call him a racist. So what's the double standard? Because I tell you this, if Trump had run as a Dem we would have never heard of his indiscretions. They would treat him like the Messiah they claimed Obama to be. But because he ran as a conservative he's Hitler. People say antisemitism is misused or overused, no I'd say Hitler is the name taken in vein second only to G-d himself. smh
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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what exactly were you correcting?

That Biden is just a bumbling idiot. He is, but he's also racist, a liar, misogynist, assaults women, and is a draft dodger. Alllll that rolled into one.
 

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Going to be interesting to see how the SCOTUS will handle the Colorado appeal. My guess is that the justices will leave it to the voters come next November to decide who’s going to move into the White House.
 

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Really? Because all the people here, I'm pretty sure I have personally shown you the opposite of hatred. And I don't appreciate being talked about like I do hate people because of a dozen different reasons. You and I both agree trans and homosexual lifestyles are against what G-d intended and that it's wrong. Does that mean you or I hate gay people?! People of a different race than I am, or religious believe, you only know me through a few encounters here. Do I impress you as a dumb person, racist and seething with hate? Because I have family and friends that I love that agree with me and they aren't seething with hate of anyone. So why are we continually pinned with this lie? Biden has made many racist comments, but no one would dare call him a racist. So what's the double standard? Because I tell you this, if Trump had run as a Dem we would have never heard of his indiscretions. They would treat him like the Messiah they claimed Obama to be. But because he ran as a conservative he's Hitler. People say antisemitism is misused or overused, no I'd say Hitler is the name taken in vein second only to G-d himself. smh
Not related but LGBT is not allowed for Orthodox Jews, but I would never, ever, try to pass a law to make it illegal. I consider that an infringement on human liberty and freedom.

I never said every last one of his supporters was the same. I'm aware there are some people who simply choose to look past all his nonsense because their relation ship with him is transactional and their morals are negotiable. Even if everything you said about Biden was true, and I don't agree that everything you said is, that does not negate the fact that trump is also guilty of the exact same list. If you think it's disqualifying for Biden then it must also be disqualifying for Trump, otherwise you are a hypocrite. I don't look at two people with horribly disqualifying traits and vote for the one in the party I like more, I just don't vote for either and let the chips fall where they may. My values matter to me and aren't negotiable.

Show me any "Liberal" who claimed Obama was a messiah. I have only ever seen ultra right wingers claiming the lefties think he's a messiah. Even if that were true, and it isn't, Trump is also treated as a messiah. Why so much okay for me and not for thee? Here's a difference between you and the hated liberals born out by studies. Liberals will watch other news like Fox, even if they think it's trash just to see what's being said. You guys do not watch anything that doesn't confirm and conform to your worldview and preferred reality. So when you hear that the libs are calling Obama the Messiah or love Biden, you believe it because you don't bother to find out if it's true. Obama lost support his second time around and Biden is crashing because his own voters hate him.

Scroll back to my comments about Biden. I do not like that man and I have said I think he is a milquetoast corporate stooge and a prostitute for wall street/big business. I think his foreign policy blows donkeys and he has a real knack for screwing up. Obama himself told Biden not to run and said to the doners not to underestimate Biden's ability to screw up. Yes he did support racist policies. So does Trump... and unlike Trump Biden at least stopped doing that.

I have a post in this very thread, TO YOU, where I specifically say Trump is not Hitler: https://christianchat.com/christian...p-supporting-him.211872/page-146#post-5203762

I think it sucks that you only get two awful choices. I'm blessed to be from a country where we have more then that, and laws to prevent corruption and conflicts of interest. However I think it sucks more that you're willing to support a guy who wants to be a dictator because you happen to like him a little more and he's wearing the right colour hat.

Like me break it down for all of you. You don't have two parties, you have one masquerading as two. What you actually have is the good cop/bad cop party and you merely alternate between the faces of said party. All of them grab their ankles for big business, corporations and special interests. All of you are so busy pointing fingers at each other and boiling over with rage because the TV people told you to blame each other while your government robs you blind. You're all allowing it because you're blinded by your collective grievances at stupid culture war nonsense and mealy mouth political differences of opinion. You treat party affiliation like it's a second religion and make voting Democrat or Republican a part of your very sense of identity to the point you'll vote for them even if Hitler WAS on the ballot as long as he had the correct letter next to his name.

I'm directing this at everyone, the leftiest lefty to the rightiest right and everyone in between. When the US collapses, and it probably will, history won't blame the conservatives or the libs. You did it to yourselves collectively, and went down screaming at each other while the 1% flew to the Cayman Islands.
 

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Going to be interesting to see how the SCOTUS will handle the Colorado appeal. My guess is that the justices will leave it to the voters come next November to decide who’s going to move into the White House.
that would be the best outcome.

will it happen??

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I am right. Peace was breaking out all over the Middle East under Trump. Through a variety of treaties, new alliances were being forged, our enemies were weakened, and virtual peace resulted.
Russia and China were also neutralized. No wars taking place, and sanctions doing real damage to the economies of those who oppose us.
Now we don't use our own resources, but allow the sales of our enemies, contrary to current law. We also have an open boarder allowing enemy combatants and terrorists in. There are also 2 wars raging and our allies and former allies don't trust us to help them.

This may or may not resonate with you. But any unbiased observer knows that Trump was respected and feared by our enemies, and trusted by our friends. Biden couldn't be more opposite.
Putin has numerous times been saying that he wants Trump to win the election. Is this because Putin wants to go back to being afraid again?
 

ZNP

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That Biden is just a bumbling idiot. He is, but he's also racist, a liar, misogynist, assaults women, and is a draft dodger. Alllll that rolled into one.
There are two kinds of monkeys, one is the bumbling idiot, the other is malicious and sneaky.
 

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Putin has numerous times been saying that he wants Trump to win the election. Is this because Putin wants to go back to being afraid again?
Putin doesn't want Trump elected. His oil revenue would plummet.
Question for you? Why does Putin only attack other countries when a Democrat is in the White House?
 

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Putin doesn't want Trump elected. His oil revenue would plummet.
Question for you? Why does Putin only attack other countries when a Democrat is in the White House?
Well, he attacked Georgia in August 2008. Far as I can remember George W. Bush (R) was in the White House then.
 

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Putin doesn't want Trump elected. His oil revenue would plummet.
Question for you? Why does Putin only attack other countries when a Democrat is in the White House?
If I was Putin, and arguably the most hated man on the planet and knew it. I naturally would swoon about the guy I didn't want to win.
 

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Well, he attacked Georgia in August 2008. Far as I can remember George W. Bush (R) was in the White House then.
And they withdrew. Not the case when they took Crimea with Obama in the White House. And not going to be the case in Ukraine when they hastily settle the current conflict before Trump returns to the White House.
And exactly 0 incursions while Trump was there before. Hmmmm....but Putin wants Trump.
 
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And they withdrew. Not the case when they took Crimea with Obama in the White House. And not going to be the case in Ukraine when they hastily settle the current conflict before Trump returns to the White House.
And exactly 0 incursions while Trump was there before. Hmmmm....but Putin wants Trump.
Trump's first 100 days he botched a rescue mission costing the lives of a key trained soldier and the lives of those they were there to save. His first military mission and screwed the pooch on it. He was even advised by the Generals to wait but Trump has no patience at all and got em all killed.